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I think 60k is a safe bet for you then. Too small, and like you said, it will be over worked. Too large, and you’ll be short cycling, which is just as bad. Good luck! I tried to cover a lot of the steps in doing mine in my thread from the gas piping, venting, hanging the unit, and inspections if you want to check out what was involved for me. Starts on page 5. I will tell you that putting heat out there was the best thing I have ever done to my garage.

45k in my 24x24 with 9.5s. I say the 60k will be perfect for you.


Thanks guys I appreciate you both sharing your applications. It does have me leaning towards a 60k unit.
 
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Taking a look at my thread I've noticed that i've been slacking on my updates. Thankfully that hasn't been the case with my actual progress.......















The full perimeter is near complete for the first coat. Closing in on the half way point for the ceiling as well. This has been quite the challenge. Even with a gun it isn't fun, or quick hahaha. Definitely going to need a second coat of primer before the actual paint goes up. Noticeable difference in brightness without even addressing lighting yet which is certainly a huge plus.
 
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Looking great! I have to knock a bunch of drywall out of my garage soon, and I am already dreading having to repaint.
 
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Looking great! I have to knock a bunch of drywall out of my garage soon, and I am already dreading having to repaint.

Thanks. Yea not glorious at all. Sooo much real estate.....Relocated the two liftmaster lights yesterday to a more useful location, for now at least. Can’t hurt having extra 100 watt bulbs connected. :thumbup: I’ll snap some pics and get them up.
 

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I've followed, well "lurked", in your threads since joining.
Was initially drawn to your screen name, as I also enjoy VAG & German vehicles in general.
Always impressed with your attention to detail.

Sorry I'm a little "late to the party" in this thread..
I have experience with finishing OSB (& Plywoods) in an automotive centric environments.
You made a good choice with the Zinsser Oil Base, I like the very similar Kilz Oil low odor.
I recommend a second coat (or even a third) of the Zinsser Oil Base, what you'll find is that each subsequent coat will do a few things for you -
1. (of course) hide more of the roller strokes & black lines the OSB has
2. smooth some of the heavy OSB texture
2a. this will also help down the road when you notice this "texture" likes to hold dust to the wall, especially in an workshop, making it look "dingy"
2b. less prone to moisture absorption
2c. less & easier final/top coating products

Speaking of top coating, see if our source for the Zinsser is willing to tint it for the coat before your top/final coat.
One OSB project I did was a 2 tone Lt & Dk Grey with a Royal Blue "belt" stripe.
I found that tinting the Kilz Oil Base very near to the final Lt & Dk colors really made the top/final coat of actual paint both go on super smooth, requiring less actual paint coats than previous areas with the same products.
Also had an added bonus for wear down the road/over the years in that if you have any light scuffs or spills you have to wipe up, the tinted base makes it so the "white" doesn't show through as much.

I hope that helps & feel welcome to PM me if you have any questions.

Keep on dubbin'
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The white is looking good! I was very excited to get painting over with as well in my similar-sized shop.

It looks like we’re both looking for a heater now. Are you planning on gas or electric? As my shop is detached and no gas line run to it, I’m dreading the possible trenching job. Lol

Keep up the good work. You’ll be done with the painting soon.


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I've followed, well "lurked", in your threads since joining.
Was initially drawn to your screen name, as I also enjoy VAG & German vehicles in general.
Always impressed with your attention to detail.

Sorry I'm a little "late to the party" in this thread..
I have experience with finishing OSB (& Plywoods) in an automotive centric environments.
You made a good choice with the Zinsser Oil Base, I like the very similar Kilz Oil low odor.
I recommend a second coat (or even a third) of the Zinsser Oil Base, what you'll find is that each subsequent coat will do a few things for you -
1. (of course) hide more of the roller strokes & black lines the OSB has
2. smooth some of the heavy OSB texture
2a. this will also help down the road when you notice this "texture" likes to hold dust to the wall, especially in an workshop, making it look "dingy"
2b. less prone to moisture absorption
2c. less & easier final/top coating products

Speaking of top coating, see if our source for the Zinsser is willing to tint it for the coat before your top/final coat.
One OSB project I did was a 2 tone Lt & Dk Grey with a Royal Blue "belt" stripe.
I found that tinting the Kilz Oil Base very near to the final Lt & Dk colors really made the top/final coat of actual paint both go on super smooth, requiring less actual paint coats than previous areas with the same products.
Also had an added bonus for wear down the road/over the years in that if you have any light scuffs or spills you have to wipe up, the tinted base makes it so the "white" doesn't show through as much.

I hope that helps & feel welcome to PM me if you have any questions.

Keep on dubbin'
Matt

Thanks for the post Matt. Really appreciate you sharing your experience with a similar product. Its thanks to GJ that I went with the Zinsser product after much back and forth. I'm very curious and optimistic to see the result of a second coat, if i ever get there lol... Always nice to see another euro enthusiast.

Merry Christmas Dubber.
You too! The best to you and your family!

The white is looking good! I was very excited to get paint Ipman diver with as well in my similar-sized shop.

It looks like we’re both looking for a heater now. Are you planning on gas or electric? As my shop is detached and no gas line run to it, I’m dreading the possible trenching job. Lol

Keep up the good work. You’ll be done with the painting soon.


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I had an electric unit in my last garage which was great, just a little more costly to actually have it run. I'm planning on going gas at this point, although nothing has been purchased as of yet. I'm really hoping to rectify that soon though. Thanks for the support and best of luck with your shop!

Snapped a quick pic with a view towards the doors to show the two relocated lights. My Husky trackwall boxes are blocking where the third light will go once i install it and the opener for Bay 2. Looking at the brightness in there already with only the 60Watt x 6 bulbs is giving me much excitement to add the new LED panels. Picked up an extra two the other day which means i'll have 8 to install. The two extras will be placed focusing on Bay 2 which will be my servicing area.

 
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Are you planning to paint those black OH doors a lighter color? May help in your quest to brighten up your fantastic garage.
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Are you planning to paint those black OH doors a lighter color? May help in your quest to brighten up your fantastic garage.
Mike

Actually that is one thing I wasn’t planning. Hoping the lighting changed in conjunction with paint will tremendously improve the situation. Ideally I wouldn’t touch these beautiful doors.
 

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Good Progress! I feel for you on painting the OSB. It is definitely not fun!

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So, last resort. Hope you don't need to.

Agreed!

Good Progress! I feel for you on painting the OSB. It is definitely not fun!

Bret

Thanks. Yes certainly couldn’t have fathomed their level of thirst for moisture. However I’m stoic in my resolve.

I’ve been able to make significant progress having a few bonus days off work. Proud to say the first coat was completed and I’m near finished with the second coat. I strongly recommend Zinsser cover stain for others wishing to follow this same route. Two coats prior to paint gives you a perfect blank canvas. Once I’m done it will have taken 60 litres of the product to cover 1000sq/ft which includes the ceiling.

Uploading status pics now for those following along. :beer:
 
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First coat going up on the ceiling:



The decision to take down these shelves took me a while to finally pull the trigger on. Just didn’t fit with my plan.







 
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Second coat showing very positive results.





Well after trying the sprayer and not finding that it actually helped me I decided to upgrade my roller game. This ended up being a great recommended combo after a little chat with my local Home Depot paint associate while my third 5 gallon pail was getting shaken up. ��









 
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I just bought a house that comes with a 30x 28 pole shop. Watching you paint this horrifies me at the amount of osb I have to paint...

At least my attached garage is drywall and easy to paint!

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Keep putting up more coats!

Agreed hahaha. Added a couple more since those pics. I'll be posting updates later today.

I just bought a house that comes with a 30x 28 pole shop. Watching you paint this horrifies me at the amount of osb I have to paint...

At least my attached garage is drywall and easy to paint!

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Yea, it will depend on your definition of fun :lol_hitti I was super motivated over the holidays to attack this. For reference i went through 3 5 galons of Zinsser Cover Stain and purchased a 5 Gallon of paint which i've only used half of.

The walls are coming out great. I hope you an yours had a Merry Christmas.

Thanks. And to you and yours as well.

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all the Garage Journal members :drink:!
 

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I just bought a house that comes with a 30x 28 pole shop. Watching you paint this horrifies me at the amount of osb I have to paint...

At least my attached garage is drywall and easy to paint!

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Dont fill it with stuff yet. rent a commercial sprayer and knock it out.
 
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Dude, as someone who actually enjoys painting (as I'm sure you are well aware), I have to recognize your resolve in this case. The results of the second coat are truly satisfying though, so keep on truckin'! Let me ask you, any plans of finishing off the portion of exposed insulation above the garage doors?
 
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Dude, as someone who actually enjoys painting (as I'm sure you are well aware), I have to recognize your resolve in this case. The results of the second coat are truly satisfying though, so keep on truckin'! Let me ask you, any plans of finishing off the portion of exposed insulation above the garage doors?

Resolve is a requisite for this scale indeed. No lie nearing 70 lt thus far in paint used. Above the doors will definitely be addressed but haven’t figured out a plan yet. Not sure if I’ll do plywood or drywall or what.

Second coat of paint on all three primary walls also completed. Used the same colour as dubber’s double. Behr Lunar Surface.





 
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And the stem wall is also now complete. Used the same approach to seal and finish the look with black. This will tie in the flooring perfectly. Once I get to that stage at least lol.







 

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Great job Dubber! The painting progress you've made has already transformed the space. Paint really can make a difference! :thumbup:
 
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Great job Dubber! The painting progress you've made has already transformed the space. Paint really can make a difference! :thumbup:

Thanks Kyle. Yes to be honest the impact is tremendous. And well with the near 20 hours invested.

Installed a few of the ultra-thin LED panels.




 
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Nice illumination, i like the amount of light that they put out.

Thanks. I’m quite happy with them. To be honest I was a little worried but with 5 of the eight up thus far I think they were a great option.


That looks like a different place, nice!

Agreed. My wife and I were just saying it’s hard to believe we have only lived here for officially a month.

I like the wall color! Nice homage to your previous setups. Those LEDs look pretty cool.

I thought why mess with a good thing hahaha. I was close to just going with white but I’m very happy I decided to stick to the original plan.
 

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Trying to play with some ideas to “hide” the breaker box. Open to suggestions from the group!

What about building some cabinets along that wall, and have one basically that covers it.

What kind of cabinets were you planning?

And wow does the space look so nice with the paint.. it REALLY does look different.
 

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Trying to play with some ideas to “hide” the breaker box. Open to suggestions from the group!
Make a two piece picture frame with one section screwed to the well and a piano hinge connecting the two frames and a magnet to keep it closed on the other side. Then whatever artwork you prefer. I'd personally go with an old Le Mans poster, but maybe an old Auto Union print would be more in keeping with the VAG heritage.
 
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What about building some cabinets along that wall, and have one basically that covers it.

What kind of cabinets were you planning?

And wow does the space look so nice with the paint.. it REALLY does look different.

That wall with the box will have two 8’ Husky Trackwall systems that I’ll be putting in. Will also likely have the heater and two tire racks. As for cabinets I went with New Age Bold in grey. Have been sitting in my garage since purchasing them on Black Friday.

Looks great, and even bigger with the cor on!

Yea pretty insane. And :beer:

Make a two piece picture frame with one section screwed to the well and a piano hinge connecting the two frames and a magnet to keep it closed on the other side. Then whatever artwork you prefer. I'd personally go with an old Le Mans poster, but maybe an old Auto Union print would be more in keeping with the VAG heritage.

I really like that idea. Now how the heck do I make that happen.

Looks great, already!

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This afternoon I said goodbye to a great little tool chest I’ve had since dubber’ single. This little Stanley box has served me well. Went to a new home today after a tremendous amount of interest which actually surprised me this morning after posting last night. Went with the Husky 46” tool chest I’ve been wanting for several years. Wanted something that would work well beside the garage fridge.





Surprising the workers at Home Depot is also always fun. “Are you sure this will fit in your car?”

 
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Nice upgrade. We are going to need to see obligatory pics of all the tools organized inside. Looks like you did some measuring before going to the store. :D

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Make a two piece picture frame with one section screwed to the well and a piano hinge connecting the two frames and a magnet to keep it closed on the other side. Then whatever artwork you prefer. I'd personally go with an old Le Mans poster, but maybe an old Auto Union print would be more in keeping with the VAG heritage.

I really like that idea. Now how the heck do I make that happen.

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I think what smschriefer is saying here would be something like this (in basic form)-
1. Use 2x4's (or similar) cut size to "frame" or box" around the panel & exposed wiring. 2x4 would be meet or be attached to the wall on the 2" edge
2. Construct a matching frame & sheet with plywood (or similar)
3. Paint frames desired color
4. Attach sheeted frame to wall frame using hinge
5. Cover sheeted area with artwork of choice

This can get more elaborate as you desire.
I helped a friend do a similar in his garage & sheeted with a discarded white board. As he liked the ability to both have the dry erase for written notes as well as magnets for paper items (like receipts). His panel was located next the door into his home , IIRC similar to yours (but I think his was a bit higher/closer to eye level)


Another option I've used in previous work was to purchase a simple White Melamine Utility Cabinet large enough to cover the outside dimension & IIRC it was about 12" deep. Then cut out the backing & hang over the top of the electrical panel. I picked it up at either Home Depot or Lowes locally.
Quick & Cheap.

Hope that helps & keep on dubbin'

Matt
 
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