Duralast ratchet bait and switch with inside pics

[shoturtle]

I state you are incorrect. There is no market or passion for vintage Chinese tools and there never will be. Show me the survey or the $260 eBay sale of a duralast ratchet.

Not here, but in asia there is a market for vintage asian tool. Everyone is different. You can find collector of chinese stuff if you look. Shoot there are collector of soviet era cars, that are total pos.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

Again, I never said that the current Chinese tools are bad. The car example also doesn't work. Japanese cars are very good but again the passion and appeal of a vintage Japanese car is not equal to that of an American or European car- the auctions are the proof. When was the last time a Goodings or Bonhams, or any other auction house had a large amount of Japanese cars on the block. When was the last time someone paid $12 million for a vintage Toyota or Nissan or whatever?

You must be rather young? And yes the car example is relevant. Japanese cars made in the 40s 50s and even into the very early 70s were complete junk. You will not see many of these cars on the auction block because they are no longer around.

There is a rather big following in the collection of some vintage Datsun's. Remember the Datsun 240 Z's and 260s are very much sought after by collectors. A mint and well restored to 240 can fetch a big price tag.

The use of a car as an example goes hand-in-hand the same way on how any given country can improve over time on how they can improve and manufacture stuff. Someday the Chinese will do the same.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

I was actually referring to the comment you commented to, you beat me to it. That there is not pride in ownership of a durlast tool or asian tool. It is really a personal thing weather their is pride in owning a asian tool. And there are a heck of allot of good japanese tools that I would love to have. But at the end, if the tool works and does it's job, that is all that counts for me, and I am glad I made a good investment. I have no issues with any of the kolbalt tools I have recently brought, they are things I do not want to pay a lot of as I do not use allot, and they are high quality. I have no issue giving it to my grand kids on day down the line.

agreed

 

[shoturtle]

You must be rather young? And yes the car example is relevant. Japanese cars made in the 40s 50s and even into the very early 70s were complete junk. You will not see many of these cars on the auction block because they are no longer around.

There is a rather big following in the collection of some vintage Datsun's. Remember the Datsun 240 Z's and 260s are very much sought after by collectors. A mint and well restored to 240 can fetch a big price tag.

The use of a car as an example goes hand-in-hand the same way on how any given country can improve over time on how they can improve and manufacture stuff. Someday the Chinese will do the same.

very true, china will get better with their tools. Just like japan, china has a long history of sword making and metallurgy. Give them sometime to get their QC straighten out. And they will have tools just as good as the japanese and the US.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

you guys done with the ******* contest yet?

I would not say it was fully a ******* contest but just a lively discussion. We all know how these discussions end and there really is never a winner. I am actually getting kind of bored of it as well

 

[Crappycivic]

Muenster has always been my favorite cheese

 

[shoturtle]

I prefer a good brie over muenster on a slice of bread. Gouda is another good one.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

Muenster has always been my favorite cheese

I officially hand it back to you "The Duralast ratchet bait and switch with inside pics thread"

PS. I like blue cheese

 

[stricht8]

Not here, but in asia there is a market for vintage asian tool. Everyone is different. You can find collector of chinese stuff if you look. Shoot there are collector of soviet era cars, that are total pos.

Maybe so but the Asians still seem to want US and European tools. They pay a premium for that stuff. I wonder if they also feel that there is a lack of passion by the Chinese tool makers (no sarcasm intended)?

 

[stricht8]

You must be rather young? And yes the car example is relevant. Japanese cars made in the 40s 50s and even into the very early 70s were complete junk. You will not see many of these cars on the auction block because they are no longer around.

There is a rather big following in the collection of some vintage Datsun's. Remember the Datsun 240 Z's and 260s are very much sought after by collectors. A mint and well restored to 240 can fetch a big price tag.

The use of a car as an example goes hand-in-hand the same way on how any given country can improve over time on how they can improve and manufacture stuff. Someday the Chinese will do the same.

The Japanese have been making good cars for long enough. The Z cars you refer to have been made now for around forty years. While they definitely have a following they just can't fetch the money that some American muscle or European exotics can. The passion worldwide is just not as strong for that stuff.

 

[shoturtle]

China is booming for US and Asian product because of 50 years of not able to have it. The chinese are getting more affluent and want to become more individual as there are 1.4 or 1.5 billion of them. They want to seek individuality. Not everyone can afford US and EU or Japanese tools in china. It is also a status symbol. Been to asia, each country is a little different in respect to what the want.

 

[stricht8]

China is booming for US and Asian product because of 50 years of not able to have it. The chinese are getting more affluent and want to become more individual as there are 1.4 or 1.5 billion of them. They want to seek individuality. Not everyone can afford US and EU or Japanese tools in china. It is also a status symbol. Been to asia, each country is a little different in respect to what the want.

Well this only further supports my point. A Chinese tool is not a status symbol anywhere in the world. Not enough passion for that stuff no matter how good it may be. A Cman RHFT ratchet is likely of equal or possible lesser quality than a Duralast or GW but it is very unlikely that the DL or GW will or could fetch crazy money on eBay or anywhere else.

 

[shoturtle]

the chinese tools in china is the chevy and ford, the EU and US tools are the bmw and benz. There are collector of both chevy and ford and benz and bmw.

 

[Crappycivic]

Maybe Chinese cheese is better than American

 

[Crappycivic]

Are there any eBay sales for 260 for a slice of cheese?

 

[shoturtle]

Maybe Chinese cheese is better than American

Now I can say for sure, that Chinese can not make a good cheese. All the good cheese I had in Asia were imported form the EU. That is why there have been storages of cheese making product last year in germany. The chinese were buy it up like crazy. Makes little sense as majority of them are lactose intolerant.

 

[gtlaw]

I'm going to be so pissed if horrible fright changes the design of their ratchet mechanisim in an eight dollar tool I would be completely lost

 

[stricht8]

I'm going to be so pissed if horrible fright changes the design of their ratchet mechanisim in an eight dollar tool I would be completely lost

T'would be a travesty indeed.

 

[NWphotog]

You better watch talking like that around here. You tell people you use a Great Neck ratchet and they'll string you up by your balls and beat you with Snap-On breaker bar.

Incredibly true. The kool-aid drinkers just don't get it.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

The Japanese have been making good cars for long enough. The Z cars you refer to have been made now for around forty years. While they definitely have a following they just can't fetch the money that some American muscle or European exotics can. The passion worldwide is just not as strong for that stuff.

I never did include or mention all the Datsun and Nissan Z models. I was only referring about the 240 and 260 models which have not been made in quite a long time. Those two models also have a very successful racing heritage. I was not including or talking about the 280 Z which I did not think was all that good or the 300 ZX models.

Anyway this thread is about Duralast ratchets so I think we should continue with that discussion.

Anyway did I mention I like blue cheese dressing on my french fries.

 

[NWphotog]

Y'know, the "99%" doesn't speak for me, and neither do you.

For those of us that weren't included in your insulting attempt at exclusion, those of us that also take real pride in our possessions, I'm incredibly proud of the value and quality that I've assembled in my pretty decently extensive collection of tools, both US and Asian (and a possible smattering of Euro that I'm not specifically recalling at the moment).

I'm a tool enthusiast, and, let's face it: Tools are the way to go, regardless of COO.

x1,000,000 bro! I am glad some are able see reality!

 

[RangerDaleXp]

x1,000,000 bro! H am glad some are able see reality!

I would agree with this as well

 

[fourtythree]

I'm going to be so pissed if horrible fright changes the design of their ratchet mechanisim in an eight dollar tool I would be completely lost

I'd normally feel bad about so blatantly straying off topic, but since this thread is fubar anyways...

Is that a Speed 3 I see in your avatar?

 

[gtlaw]

I'd normally feel bad about so blatantly straying off topic, but since this thread is fubar anyways...

Is that a Speed 3 I see in your avatar?

yeah its mine I got it new in may 08

I won't know how to fix it since duralast ratchets changed

 

[fourtythree]

yeah its mine I got it new in may 08

I won't know how to fix it since duralast ratchets changed

Thats what you get for buying an Asian car. Should've bought American.

What all have you done to it? I just received the Access Port for mine. The car's a blast to drive.

 

[kippieland]

you guys done with the ******* contest yet?

Apparently they are not.

 

[gtlaw]

Thats what you get for buying an Asian car. Should've bought American.

What all have you done to it? I just received the Access Port for mine. The car's a blast to drive.

in the video it was stock except for the older style duralast ratchet in the hatch now I have a cp-e nano, and a newer crappy duralast ratchet that doesn't have interchangeable parts with the old one

 

[Altec]

Apparently they are not.

I don't even know what the hell they are talking about...

 

[puttsy]

In case anyone else got to the end of this thread and didn't bother to google translate:

這是什麼您得到當您在便宜的工具上花美國美元!

Google Translate defaults to Japanese, this is actually Chinese!

Chinese translation:
This is what you get when you spend U.S. dollars on the cheap tools!

and Less sensible

Japanese translation:
Land on the tool for convenience and hanami yuan currently reach 當您 您得 Inmo 這是!

And @Crappycivic

Yeah, manufacturers change ALL kinds of things and retain the same model numbers...heck, some continue on the serial number schemes making things REALLY hard to determine. Just look at the Craftsman Raised Panel ratchets...STILL 44808 after the china export...NO way to tell by model number, but in person they are leaps and bounds different. [no comment on better or worse but the difference aesthetically is very apparent]

 

[redwrench60]

I don't even know what the hell they are talking about...

Apparently cheeses are popular on GJ

 

[fourtythree]

The only cheese I buy is American.

 

[cruiser808]

fixed it for ya

Hi Mickey - you'll just have to stand in line as I'm a head of you.

 

[Crappycivic]

If you've ever had a good piece of gruyere, you'd understand

 

[Gtamazing]

 

[RangerDaleXp]

The only cheese I buy is American.

American-made Swiss is not as good as Swiss made Swiss cheese

 

[Crappycivic]

Woohoo back on track....all mine!!!!!!

 

[RangerDaleXp]

Woohoo back on track....all mine!!!!!!

Thank God

 

[plinker]

How much does the regular 3/8 drive duralast ratchet cost?
I'm guessing about 20$ (some one correct me if I'm wrong)

(putting flame suit on)

Rather then buy a tool that is constantly changing design/make, Why not just go on ebay or even the classified here and get either a nice used S-K 45170 (for instance, many others are reasonable too) or a new Williams "Snap-on 936" clone? The Williams, last I looked, go around 25$, and the S-K's 10$ to 15$ for a nice looking one.

Not looking to start something, but it seems like it isnt worth the headache worrying over a import tool thats changing design (often?). I mean the S-K Pro's have not changed much at all since the '30's.



I'll shut up now.

 

[Crappycivic]

Its 15.99

Plus the nice ability to walk into any of 5000 az stores without receipt and get a new one for free

 

[thesilverone]

good thing you got a ****** asian ripoff of an american ratchet