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davidj

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I might have to throw my iPhone box on eBay. And if I can find my girlfriends 4s box we could go on a cruise with the money I make lol
 

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By all means, report me to eBay, send the wrath of the banhammer on me.

Search iPhone box and report the hundred others selling iPhone empty boxes too.

Sadly, I don't actually sell things on eBay, my eBay username is fwd_deej, feel free to report me anyway.
 

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If something is advertised and correctly described, then it is the buyers problem to become educated on what market is, not the seller.

Unless you are a flipping socialist, it is nobody's place to tell what someone is to sell their own property for. It is easy to whine and snivel pointing out over priced stuff, but the end it is between that buyer and that seller and nobody else's business.

It is not my place as a seller if some naive or social retard wants to over bid or over pay for my stuff. If you have family or friends that are naive or social retards that can not ascertain what market is of something, then they need to stay off the internet.

People have a twist sense of what a true "rip off" is. Someone overpaying or over bidding on accurate and honestly described items on ebay is not a rip off.

I have been an ebayer for over 13 years now and Hootbro could not be more correct. If the item is honestly and accurately described ebay is the perfect place for the market to dictate the true value of the item. :thumbup:
 

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If something is advertised and correctly described, then it is the buyers problem to become educated on what market is, not the seller.

Unless you are a flipping socialist, it is nobody's place to tell what someone is to sell their own property for. It is easy to whine and snivel pointing out over priced stuff, but the end it is between that buyer and that seller and nobody else's business.

It is not my place as a seller if some naive or social retard wants to over bid or over pay for my stuff. If you have family or friends that are naive or social retards that can not ascertain what market is of something, then they need to stay off the internet.

People have a twist sense of what a true "rip off" is. Someone overpaying or over bidding on accurate and honestly described items on ebay is not a rip off.

If you imtentionally target those "retards " as you call them, then I think your point of view totally stinks. Ask an honest buck and expect an honest buck.

HONESTY and Trustworthiness is more important than all of the money in the world.

If a person has no self respect then he/she will slant honesty or falsify to gain $$. This is true in all areas of life --- who is really the retard in the end --- a LIAR or MANIPULATOR is truly SCUM --- and I don't really care how the legal folks see it as they too manipulate and deceive to win their cases.

The only way is true HONESTY. Honesty among humans will never happen tho --- I truly prefer to trust my dog and question all human transactions --- ya can't even trust your friends many times.

So keep on defending the low life like the BOX seller, his ad was overboard in deceptiveness.

And what the hell does SOCIALISM, or for that matter, Democracy, Fascism, Communism or any other structure have to do with the subject of HONESTY -- There are thieves in all cultures.

GOD i'm sorry i even came across this thread
 
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If something is advertised and correctly described, then it is the buyers problem to become educated on what market is, not the seller.

Unless you are a flipping socialist, it is nobody's place to tell what someone is to sell their own property for. It is easy to whine and snivel pointing out over priced stuff, but the end it is between that buyer and that seller and nobody else's business.

It is not my place as a seller if some naive or social retard wants to over bid or over pay for my stuff. If you have family or friends that are naive or social retards that can not ascertain what market is of something, then they need to stay off the internet.

People have a twist sense of what a true "rip off" is. Someone overpaying or over bidding on accurate and honestly described items on ebay is not a rip off.

Amen!

Guess what? Cosco/Sams marked that up 50% from what THEY paid to begin with. This is how it works. Buyer beware and buyer be educated!
 

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Thats not a ripoff, a ripoff would be selling you that box and sending you something else, or claiming this box is something that it is not

Theres nothing misleading here, its just overpriced

Check out my ad for an Iphone 4 "box only". People are bidding $300 for an empty box

Exactly

There is no false advertising, for some reason people want empty boxes

The bid history on that is highly suspicious. Stupid LOL, but still looks non kosher.

RVDan- I would be embarrassed if that was my auction. Selling to fools is like shooting fish in a barrel , doesn't mean it is a good thing or something to be proud of.... my 2 cents FWIW.... and , reading your auction , it could be read by some as "iPhone etc .............only no accessories" eg case , screen protector... just sayin'
 

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The empty box SCAM (It is, youre counting on a buyer making a moments decision in haste and not reading the entire ad) has been done by many.
Unfortunately, it works often enough that some low lifes feel it's worth it and when it doens't work it costs them nothing.
FORTUNATELY, it is a recognized scam and the courts have ruled in favor of the plaintiffs when they've sued these POS for a full refund.
So, keep selling your empty boxes and claim you're perfectly legit. Karma is one ugly ***** and she strikes when you're least prepared.
For those who have posted they routinely practice this ****. You've just dimed yourself out to this entire forum. Good luck making any transactions on here in the future. You folks are the lowest of the low!
 

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how do you make someone buy something?

Report to Paypal/Ebay/negative feedback.

What I meant was if the buyer would say, "oops, sorry, I made a mistake" then would he be a decent person and let them out of it.

Obviously decency and being a good person is lost on some in here.....just because you can, doesn't make something right. I'll let it stay at that......
 

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Wow, what a bunch of whiners in this thread. There is nothing deceptive about selling an empty box if you call it an empty box. The vast majority of ebay buyers don't even bother to read the description. Then they whine and complain when they don't get what they were expecting. It's called taking responsibility for your own actions. If you can't then maybe you should move back in with your mommy and let her take care of you.
 

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^Obviously the popular guy at school over here folks. Just cause you can, doesn't mean you shouldn't. And just cause it's not wrong, doesn't make it right either. It's up to your discretion. But it's up to MY discretion whether or not I ever do business with you. Now I know that may not matter too much to you, and I'm not one to care what you think about the subject if you're selling **** like that, worded to decieve the average joe who takes about 5 seconds to read the auction. That's BS. Is it actually "wrong" by the rules? Hell no. But that don't change what a decent person would think of you for doing it.
 
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There was a clip on Judge Judy about it. The person lost because they put the phone descriptions and weight into the listing.
 

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Wow, what a bunch of whiners in this thread. There is nothing deceptive about selling an empty box if you call it an empty box.

I agree 100%. However nowhere does it say "empty box" in the title. Whether it's stupidity or intent to defraud it's still a very misleading title.

If the buyer was expecting more then an empty box then the seller will get a chargeback and a negative FB.
 

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Hey you could all be wrong and it could be some college student doing an experiment to see how high the bidding will go on an empty box.

The person doing the experiment has their highest bidding price set at a ridiculous number so it just keeps going up and up till it ends. No harm no foul...just sayin'... that could be the case too and everyone is jumping to the conclusion that it some deviant behind the ad...

However, it most probably is a deviant! LOL
 
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As the above posters have said "Caveat emptor".

Thanks for posting it up for others to see.
 

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If you imtentionally target those "retards " as you call them, then I think your point of view totally stinks. Ask an honest buck and expect an honest buck.

............................

Do you understand what an auction is? An auction is buyers competing for your offerings. If you are honest in the description and they jack the bidding up, how is that the sellers issue?

I target "buyers" in my auctions. I can not help it if some are "retards".
 

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I think anytime you are preying on a buyer's stupidity, it's a little unethical, but certainly not illegal.

People always blame ebay, but it's been going on at "real" stores for ever. Watch antiques roadshow and see how many people over pay at antique stores. They buy something based on the "professional" dealer's estimate of worth, only to find out they got ripped off. Just hope that its an honest mistake, and not on purpose. And it's not just second hand stores, search google shopping and see the huge range in pricing between web sites.

With the convenience of online shopping comes the need to use the convenience of online information.

Overall, I'm glad it's available. How else would you find some of the odd stuff you need, or get rid of parts that you don't need anymore?
 
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Selling an empty cell phone box under the category "cell phones and smart phones" is a scam. Putting "16GB" in the description is misleading. This type of activity is meant to mislead and deceive.

If the seller wanted to be honest, he would go the extra to make sure the buyer know its just an empty box. Apparently ebay needs an empty box category to keep people honest.

The way people treat each other is disturbing.

So where should it be placed, under jewelry? It's a box for a phone. And if it's a box for a 16GB phone then why is that misleading? I don't know which listing you are looking at, but the one I read clearly said it was for an empty box, all I had to do was read the listing. I really don't feel it's too much to ask for people to read the description. If that's too much for them they should get a big person to read it for them.

I'll give you an example of the BS like this that I put up with every day. I list a widget for sale with a description that says "nice condition, but has a scratch across it." Two weeks later I get an email from the buyer "I got my widget today and it has a scratch on it!"

No reasonable individual should have to be put out to protect people from their own stupidity. Let them get stuck with something and the next time maybe they'll know better. Or coddle them like children and they'll expect you to do it for the rest of their lives.
 

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I used to sell new knives on ebay. I saw the exact same knife that I was selling and they were bidding the snot out of it. I believe it was up to twenty some dollars. I felt I had to email the high bidder (at that point) and tell him it was a $5 knife. He let the auction go and bought all the remaining knives I had for $5 each. I couldn't save everyone but I felt better at the time. FYI, I had about 7 of those knives that he bought.
 

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I used to sell new knives on ebay. I saw the exact same knife that I was selling and they were bidding the snot out of it. I believe it was up to twenty some dollars. I felt I had to email the high bidder (at that point) and tell him it was a $5 knife. He let the auction go and bought all the remaining knives I had for $5 each. I couldn't save everyone but I felt better at the time. FYI, I had about 7 of those knives that he bought.

1. That's auction interference, it is against the law, against eBay rules. :shocking:

2. And that is why bidder's are now anonymous, so that people can't interfere with in process auctions.
 

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Hey you could all be wrong and it could be some college student doing an experiment to see how high the bidding will go on an empty box.

The person doing the experiment has their highest bidding price set at a ridiculous number so it just keeps going up and up till it ends. No harm no foul...just sayin'... that could be the case too and everyone is jumping to the conclusion that it some deviant behind the ad...

However, it most probably is a deviant! LOL

Problem is the person will still owe the selling fees, Currently 9% of the final total including shipping.

http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/news/feeupdate2011.html#fc
 

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It's not uncommon for people to buy new items and try to get more for them on Ebay. If people are willing to pay more I guess that's their right. The only time I use Ebay is if I'm having trouble finding a part for a car that I just can't locate anywhere else. But knowing what you're looking for and what a fair price is should be .. I would think.. common sense.
 

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Thats not a ripoff, a ripoff would be selling you that box and sending you something else, or claiming this box is something that it is not

Theres nothing misleading here, its just overpriced

Check out my ad for an Iphone 4 "box only". People are bidding $300 for an empty box
It sold for $405. You're going to have one angry buyer. Does it even make sense to do this?
 

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lol'ing at everyone getting their ******* in a bunch. Winning bid on that iphone box was a new member with no feedback, more than likely was the guy selling the box.
 

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There are some things that are illegal, but there are some things that are unethical! I know that it is a buyer beware on ebay. RV , go the extra mile, do the ethical thing and remind your bidders that it is just a box, you would appreciate that if you were in their shoes, nobody in right mind would pay that amount for an ipad box! Allow bidders to drop out of bid, unless they indeed are insane and want to pay 375 for a box!

The item description says "there is no iPhone in this box". How much more specific can it be?

Unfortunately it's not mine, I wish it was at $405 for something that comes free when you buy a phone, a joke to point out other things that are overpriced

Whatever, it's fun to have stalkers sometimes, I have some on advrider that follow me around to call me a cheap ******* for not leaving a tip, now I'll have some here calling me a liar and eBay scammer
 

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sorry, but i would like to bring this thread back to the beginning.

i looked through the entire thread and (and on Sam's) but i did not see where you could purchase this work bench for $400.00.

anyone have a link?

I looked for it too and couldn't find it.

It couldve been a typical Costco/sams special purchase and theyre all gone now, but if anyone has a link, I'd be interested in buying one for $400
 

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It looks like his auction was removed and he relisted it. This time he put "no phone" in the title.
 

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I used to sell new knives on ebay. I saw the exact same knife that I was selling and they were bidding the snot out of it. I believe it was up to twenty some dollars. I felt I had to email the high bidder (at that point) and tell him it was a $5 knife. He let the auction go and bought all the remaining knives I had for $5 each. I couldn't save everyone but I felt better at the time. FYI, I had about 7 of those knives that he bought.

Seen a guy like you at the gun show doing a like thing. They kicked him out and permanently banned him from future shows.

Very uncouth.
 
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