jsackin
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We put our order in yesterday for the Eagle Grip pliers. Malco says they have them in stock and will start shipping them out at the beginning of May.
Eagle grip pliers
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Pricing?
jsackin
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This is what we're planning on selling them at unless they try and enforce MAP pricing.
LP7R - $34.95
LP7WC - $33.95
LP10R - $38.95
LP10WC - $36.95
LP11C - $49.95
LP11SP - $51.95
2ndGearRubber
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I bet a lot of those will get sold for HJE/SK day on the 4th of july.
Pricing about 50% of the snap-on model - I'm really liking mine so far, quality tool.
Pricing about 50% of the snap-on model - I'm really liking mine so far, quality tool.
dnschmidt
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Not to rain on anybody's parade but when Milwaukee's Vise Grips go for $13 (and they're pretty damn good) I can't see spending 2.5X for the Eagle Grip unless they leap tall buildings on a single bound.
It’s precisely this way of thinking that led us to be unprepared to manufacture domestic goods in a pandemic.
anndel
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I plan to get me some Malco Eagle Grips from HJE when they're released. Jori----standing by... Pass on the Milwaukee stuff.
TheMadMech
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jsackin
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Malco sent us a distributor price list and based off that, this is what we'll sell them for.
Shootinok
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I'll buy 'em.
My puny contribution may only be a drop in the ocean, but I will pay twice the import price to help keep manufacturing in the USA.
My puny contribution may only be a drop in the ocean, but I will pay twice the import price to help keep manufacturing in the USA.
Don't buy any then... Simple.
Not everybody buy's tools based ONLY on price.
Don't worry, you didn't rain on my parade.
I already own FAR more vice grips than I could probably ever use (mostly USA Peterson's) and I still plan to keep buying more. Price is not at the top of my list as a deciding factor when it comes to buying tools that I WANT.
When do you think they will be available for sale on your website?
RoundedNut
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I've got a decent collection of old Petersen Vise Grips so I was curious about these but the prices are way out of line.
You can get locking pliers made in Germany, Austria and Japan, by top brands like Knipex, Gedore and KTC for 1/2 the price.
There is something seriously wrong with American productivity and manufacturing capability.
You can get locking pliers made in Germany, Austria and Japan, by top brands like Knipex, Gedore and KTC for 1/2 the price.
There is something seriously wrong with American productivity and manufacturing capability.
dr_clyde
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I find the prices to be very reasonable.
I have handled the SO branded version, and they are without a doubt the nicest locking pliers I have ever touched. The fit and finish is top notch, the plating is very clean and shiny, they have the feel and action of a well machined product.
And Knipex charges more than $40 for a pair of pliers, so I don't see how Malco's pricing is out of line for a top shelf, USA made product.
I refuse to participate in the race to the bottom. Folks ***** constantly about outsourcing and losing jobs out of one side of their mouth, then ***** about the price of sustainable USA manufacturing out the other side.
I am an American manufacturer. It is in my best interest, as well as the best interest of all of our citizens, to support local infrastructure and jobs when available. Trade is appropriate and neccessary, but there is a difference between sustainable trade and just being plain old cheap.
Most people who complain about the price of goods have no earthly idea how much capital and resources it actually takes to manufacture something worth owning and make a buck.
We want it FAST, CHEAP and HIGH QUALITY. Everyplace I've ever been you had the choice of two.
I have handled the SO branded version, and they are without a doubt the nicest locking pliers I have ever touched. The fit and finish is top notch, the plating is very clean and shiny, they have the feel and action of a well machined product.
And Knipex charges more than $40 for a pair of pliers, so I don't see how Malco's pricing is out of line for a top shelf, USA made product.
I refuse to participate in the race to the bottom. Folks ***** constantly about outsourcing and losing jobs out of one side of their mouth, then ***** about the price of sustainable USA manufacturing out the other side.
I am an American manufacturer. It is in my best interest, as well as the best interest of all of our citizens, to support local infrastructure and jobs when available. Trade is appropriate and neccessary, but there is a difference between sustainable trade and just being plain old cheap.
Most people who complain about the price of goods have no earthly idea how much capital and resources it actually takes to manufacture something worth owning and make a buck.
We want it FAST, CHEAP and HIGH QUALITY. Everyplace I've ever been you had the choice of two.
jsackin
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Malco is saying orders will be shipping May 3rd.
rlitman
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Well, I kind of agree with you here. For my part, I use vise grips for several tasks. I'm not using $40 pliers as welding clamps. I'll use my $2 crappy knock offs for that.
For those jobs where I want a strong locking plier with sharp teeth to turn something rounded or stuck, I'll be happy to pony up for some good ones. Unfortunately, I have more than enough of these as it is.
RoundedNut
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$22USD for the 10": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001P0C2U/?tag=atomicindus08-20
$18USD in Germany: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0001P0C2U/
I may not beat up a pair of Pliers Wrench, but locking pliers were never a "high end" kind of plier and I'd beat on these Knipex.
bob15
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Your math isn't exactly correct with your "other" brands being supposedly 1/2 the price. And where does one find KTC locking pliers besides e-bay, where they are $40+ after shipping?
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RoundedNut
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Gedore:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B001N3IY92/
19.57 euro including 19% VAT, 16.45 euro without VAT so 19.66 USD.
KTC:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00CF928SQ/
2127 yen including 10% tax, 1934 yen without so 17.73 USD.
These are the prices Germans and Japanese pay, which is the equivalent scenario to Americans paying for Eagle pliers.
My last amazon Japan order was for 9086 yen with S&H being 2063 yen or 23% extra to have it shipped to Canada. So if I had added those KTC pliers to the order, it would have cost me about 21.76 USD.
That 10" model is suppose to be made in Austria are I've read that they're good. The other 3 models are Bollmann rebrands which I do have a pair of and they didnt impress me. Depending on what brand you buy them under, as you said, they're pretty cheap and to me they feel and act it too.
I'm not super keen on the lever design but everything else on the the Malco looks like a higher quality product compared to anything coming out of Germany.
That said I was hoping for street pricing of about $10 less though.
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malco teeth are good design .
i can see prices getting better by 10-20% in time but if it a proper made effort it be worth some extra cost .
The western companies and governments have made some serious errors chasing profit and short term low cost with cheapest production not caring about long term consequences and turning blind eye to health and safety, environmental damage and cheap labour that almost slavery .
Building up production and product marketing from almost scratch is a tough and costly exercise ...
i can see prices getting better by 10-20% in time but if it a proper made effort it be worth some extra cost .
The western companies and governments have made some serious errors chasing profit and short term low cost with cheapest production not caring about long term consequences and turning blind eye to health and safety, environmental damage and cheap labour that almost slavery .
Building up production and product marketing from almost scratch is a tough and costly exercise ...
Bubba Fett
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They cater to investors, and not customers.
pizza
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i'm in the market for some good locking pliers. i almost bought a set of tektons (which seem good for the money), but it looks like i'll finally be able to get these.
are there any other top brands of locking pliers to consider? any COO is fine for me (even china) if they're top quality. otherwise i'm just going to get some of these.
thanks guys
are there any other top brands of locking pliers to consider? any COO is fine for me (even china) if they're top quality. otherwise i'm just going to get some of these.
thanks guys
pizza
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Bubba Fett
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For the money, the Bremen locking pliers at Harbor Freight are pretty good. At least as good as the Irwins, but cheaper. They don't seem to have as much slop. They are made in Taiwan.
Parrothead
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I’m in agreement here. I’ve been following this thread since the beginning for the most part but the pricing will stop me from purchasing. The $7 Bremen’s are 1/4 of the price, made in Taiwan, and have a similar adjusting knob and instead of Malco’s hex key adjustment the Bremen’s are set up for a 1/4 drive ratchet. I’ve got a dozen Peterson Vise Grips, but those were priced more reasonably. I can’t justify the price.
AmericanMechanic
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Everyone will make their own decision based on needs and priorities.
I'll be a customer, but at a slower rate of acquisition than if they were cheaper. Quality over quantity.
I'm also not in the trades. If I were I might buy quite a few given it takes tools to do the job.
Excited to buy one
I'll be a customer, but at a slower rate of acquisition than if they were cheaper. Quality over quantity.
I'm also not in the trades. If I were I might buy quite a few given it takes tools to do the job.
Excited to buy one
People will only judge your financial resources, your needs and requirements, your preferences, etc., if you publicly justify your purchase decisions on a web forum.
In the end, you'll have 23 HF "Bremen" pliers and I'll have 5 Eagle Grip pliers and we'll both be happy!
dnschmidt
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The biggest problem I see with the price is the nature of what you use a Vise-Grip for which in my case is welding setups. Weld spatter doesn't give a **** about how nice the plating is. The HF Bremen get marred up just as well as the Eagle Grip would. I'll pay big bucks for a Knipex Pliers Wrench but I'm not going to pay big bucks for something I consider to be a disposable tool.
TheMadMech
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I see the big plus of eaglegrip being the cross cut front teeth, I'll get a pair or two for the reason they look more likely have good bite on front of jaws .
The proper screw thread collar good too, main weakness on taiwan ones is poor thread and spot weld on the fold which will fail if screw them extra tight .
Bremen and toptul are great for disposable pliers and toptul chain grips could be had less than 20bucks and compliment 2 leg pullers a treat and bremen range is 5 to 10 bucks for tool that better than Irwin and got warranty .
Will be handy have extra nice locking pliers but I wouldn't be spending that much for general abuse and welding pliers .
I think we can all agree it nice have product and business in the US ...
The proper screw thread collar good too, main weakness on taiwan ones is poor thread and spot weld on the fold which will fail if screw them extra tight .
Bremen and toptul are great for disposable pliers and toptul chain grips could be had less than 20bucks and compliment 2 leg pullers a treat and bremen range is 5 to 10 bucks for tool that better than Irwin and got warranty .
Will be handy have extra nice locking pliers but I wouldn't be spending that much for general abuse and welding pliers .
I think we can all agree it nice have product and business in the US ...
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KnurledNut
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We BADLY need a test of these against the old school Vise Grips...
Bubba Fett
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I'll be getting a pair or two at least. Those will be the "good ones" while the cheap/junk ones will be the disposable ones that I use to clamp stuff "temporarily" for 5 years because I'll get distracted from that particular project. 
rlitman
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I'll be getting a pair or two at least. Those will be the "good ones" while the cheap/junk ones will be the disposable ones that I use to clamp stuff "temporarily" for 5 years because I'll get distracted from that particular project.
Lol, I had a vise grip faucet handle for at least a decade.