Finallygotit
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Man, what a difference!
Above 1200 Sq/FT Eastern Washington Workshop - Building 2
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
SilverJimmy
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Like the cleanup and the transformation. I’m talking about the thread name! Lol!
100 gallons of paint all told both levels.
I am tired of painting. And prepping for paint!
It would be so much worse without tear-offs for the full face respirator!
Went through four of them this morning.
With that said, the effort is already a distant memory. It’s going to be a great space to work in!
I am tired of painting. And prepping for paint!
It would be so much worse without tear-offs for the full face respirator!
Went through four of them this morning.
With that said, the effort is already a distant memory. It’s going to be a great space to work in!
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Finallygotit
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WOW!! 
Finallygotit
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Steven, how far apart are these two buildings?
4 FN 27
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LOL...Charlie 19'er is over...
BORING HOP YARD
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"Wow" is right, so a nice transformation.
Great work!
Great work!
I think the real question might be, are they close enough for you to acquire all the property between them?Steven, how far apart are these two buildings?
Ron
67CarGuy
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Very impressive - it's always nice to see what some fresh, high quality paint will do to a space. Extra credit points for holding back and not filling it with stuff before you could get to this phase!
Thank you! It’s what I pictured. This one was a lot of work with a lot of long breaks. I’m glad a lot of the heavy lifting is behind me. Getting all the equipment setup is next.
Not likely. There’s quite a bit between them. The two buildings are about a block away from one another.I think the real question might be, are they close enough for you to acquire all the property between them?
Ron
Thank you! It was full.. just shoved to one end. The paint is worth all the effort and expense.
gearhead1960
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In order to get the air compressor, and other items that need to be moved with the forklift, the awning needed to come down. At least partially. Today was the day. We have been shuttling the sand blast cabinet between shops when we need it. The forklift made short work of removing the wood once the steel was unscrewed and slid off the framework.
Removed the front right post as well.
End of the day view of the demo:
I drove the compressor down on the beefy shipping pallet.
Then we used two straps to sling it and lift off the pallet.
Lowered it onto the narrow fork pallet jack and rolled it inside without incident. The final resting place:
Should be a really nice air system for the shop. The sand blast cabinet will sit near it in the basement.
Removed the front right post as well.
End of the day view of the demo:
I drove the compressor down on the beefy shipping pallet.
Then we used two straps to sling it and lift off the pallet.
Lowered it onto the narrow fork pallet jack and rolled it inside without incident. The final resting place:
Should be a really nice air system for the shop. The sand blast cabinet will sit near it in the basement.
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lilscorpion
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Some updates on the building. Been putting the tool and machinery stuff in the main shop thread for the most part. I’m sure a little overlap won’t hurt.
The air system turned out really nice. The service loop has two micron filters -> refrigerated dryer -> desiccant. There’s a bypass for when it’s not needed. The loop will be used for powder coating and the plasma.
The compressor start circuit and the tank drain valve are controlled by the automation system. This way I don’t have to go to the basement to turn the compressor on, and the tank drain can’t make the compressor run when it’s not being used. I don’t love the timer style drain valves. It came with the compressor. The addition of the automation aspect makes it all work well for my needs.
I made an outfeed for the sander a while back. It has been a great addition. Really happy with this one.
The new bigger powder application booth and oven arrived. Everything is setup and ready to use. I also moved the small oven in to this building.
Been working on getting the lighting extended into the second half of the building.
This is the first time in the seven years I’ve owned the building there has been light on that end. Ended up needing a few more fixtures to build it out the way I want. When I bought them at the Depot yesterday I looked at their LED offerings. Pretty sure I bought my last box of T8 fluorescent tubes. I’ve been really happy over the years with the 6500k T8s. I’m sure by the time I work through the 30 spares I have the LED tech will be even better than it is now. It’s worth noting I bought a significant amount of the electrical supplies needed to build out this building prior to Covid. Prices have definitely changed. Happy with that bit of forward thinking savings.
We will get the last row of fixtures up this week.
The air system turned out really nice. The service loop has two micron filters -> refrigerated dryer -> desiccant. There’s a bypass for when it’s not needed. The loop will be used for powder coating and the plasma.
The compressor start circuit and the tank drain valve are controlled by the automation system. This way I don’t have to go to the basement to turn the compressor on, and the tank drain can’t make the compressor run when it’s not being used. I don’t love the timer style drain valves. It came with the compressor. The addition of the automation aspect makes it all work well for my needs.
I made an outfeed for the sander a while back. It has been a great addition. Really happy with this one.
The new bigger powder application booth and oven arrived. Everything is setup and ready to use. I also moved the small oven in to this building.
Been working on getting the lighting extended into the second half of the building.
This is the first time in the seven years I’ve owned the building there has been light on that end. Ended up needing a few more fixtures to build it out the way I want. When I bought them at the Depot yesterday I looked at their LED offerings. Pretty sure I bought my last box of T8 fluorescent tubes. I’ve been really happy over the years with the 6500k T8s. I’m sure by the time I work through the 30 spares I have the LED tech will be even better than it is now. It’s worth noting I bought a significant amount of the electrical supplies needed to build out this building prior to Covid. Prices have definitely changed. Happy with that bit of forward thinking savings.
We will get the last row of fixtures up this week.
BORING HOP YARD
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You have done such a nice transformation on that building, thanks for sharing.
rattle_snake
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Wow, nice work on the air system!
Powder coating creates some smoke in the oven. The big oven doesn’t have a floor of its own. I’m sure this is the reason we see a lot more smoke in the shop compared to the small oven with a floor that’s attached to the walls. We grouted in the larger gap to the floor. I will be sealing the rest with an oven sealant.
That aside, it’s nice to have a way to pull air through any shop space for a variety of reasons. I had ordered a 30” exhaust fan a while back. We had a chance to get it installed.
Started by removing a window. This came out a little better than I had thought it might.
I made an outer 2x6 frame that’s attached to the block opening. The thinking is the fan insert can be removed without removing the frame if someone wants to in the future.
Framed up the insert and slid it into place. Then the fan was mounted.
There are several tubes of adhesive and silicone sealant in hopes of keeping the box elder bugs at bay a little better than the old windows. Of course the shutters won’t help with that.
All buttoned up for now.
We ran out of sunny enough days for paint. The fan works well with a door cracked. Plan is to make an exhaust elbow, maybe with a latched door to help keep the heat in when not in use. I don’t see it getting used often, but when we want to move air through the shop it’s going to be really nice.
Several months ago the sewer backed up. I had a plumber come out to diagnose. I had worked with this guy at the main shop years ago. His analysis ended up being incorrect on this one. No big deal. We started by digging at the cleanout by the building. He had said it was plugged 8’ away or so. Needless to say all told 40’ of pipe was dug up before we found the culprit. We did this a little at a time over the last little while.
This week we knew we were onto something when we found this.
My untrained eye thought this was ABS because it was black pipe. I was really surprised when we found this:
The large root has severely changed the shape of the pipe.
The orange berg pipe had also deteriorated:
We dug back to what we believe is good pipe. It flows from that point to the city really well. Flushed with the inflatable bladder for quite a while and it was clean and clear. Leveled out the trench with a ~1/4” / ft or so slope and got to installing new 4” ABS.
38’ of new pipe and we’re good. For now at least. If there’s an issue in the future I’ll have a contractor replace it all. It gets a lot deeper in the ground past where we tied in. More than I want to deal with.
Needless to say we all made several ceremonial flushes in celebration. Really happy to have this sorted so we aren’t running down the street every time someone has to use the head.
That aside, it’s nice to have a way to pull air through any shop space for a variety of reasons. I had ordered a 30” exhaust fan a while back. We had a chance to get it installed.
Started by removing a window. This came out a little better than I had thought it might.
I made an outer 2x6 frame that’s attached to the block opening. The thinking is the fan insert can be removed without removing the frame if someone wants to in the future.
Framed up the insert and slid it into place. Then the fan was mounted.
There are several tubes of adhesive and silicone sealant in hopes of keeping the box elder bugs at bay a little better than the old windows. Of course the shutters won’t help with that.
All buttoned up for now.
We ran out of sunny enough days for paint. The fan works well with a door cracked. Plan is to make an exhaust elbow, maybe with a latched door to help keep the heat in when not in use. I don’t see it getting used often, but when we want to move air through the shop it’s going to be really nice.
Several months ago the sewer backed up. I had a plumber come out to diagnose. I had worked with this guy at the main shop years ago. His analysis ended up being incorrect on this one. No big deal. We started by digging at the cleanout by the building. He had said it was plugged 8’ away or so. Needless to say all told 40’ of pipe was dug up before we found the culprit. We did this a little at a time over the last little while.
This week we knew we were onto something when we found this.
My untrained eye thought this was ABS because it was black pipe. I was really surprised when we found this:
The large root has severely changed the shape of the pipe.
The orange berg pipe had also deteriorated:
We dug back to what we believe is good pipe. It flows from that point to the city really well. Flushed with the inflatable bladder for quite a while and it was clean and clear. Leveled out the trench with a ~1/4” / ft or so slope and got to installing new 4” ABS.
38’ of new pipe and we’re good. For now at least. If there’s an issue in the future I’ll have a contractor replace it all. It gets a lot deeper in the ground past where we tied in. More than I want to deal with.
Needless to say we all made several ceremonial flushes in celebration. Really happy to have this sorted so we aren’t running down the street every time someone has to use the head.
I started talking to a contractor about raising a door opening first of May. It took a looong while, but I finally got on his schedule. I need one door opening raised so I can get press brakes in the building. The 5’ brake may have been able to slide under the existing, but the larger brake I need to buy wouldn’t.
The contractor rolled in with six guys.
This is as I walked up when they arrived. They didn’t waste any time. A beam was placed under the ceiling, above the door on screw jacks and cribbing to take some of the load.
This is after removing what the last guy had done.
Saw cut the ends, and lifted channel into position.
Some 2x was placed between the channel and block to act as wedge to apply pressure upwards support the block. It worked well.
End of the day. Just under five hours on site.
The inside.
They came back the next day and trimmed and grouted things in. Turned out really nice. The door contractor is next. I’m really happy with how this turned out so far.
The contractor rolled in with six guys.
This is as I walked up when they arrived. They didn’t waste any time. A beam was placed under the ceiling, above the door on screw jacks and cribbing to take some of the load.
This is after removing what the last guy had done.
Saw cut the ends, and lifted channel into position.
Some 2x was placed between the channel and block to act as wedge to apply pressure upwards support the block. It worked well.
End of the day. Just under five hours on site.
The inside.
They came back the next day and trimmed and grouted things in. Turned out really nice. The door contractor is next. I’m really happy with how this turned out so far.
Sorting out how to layout the laser and press brakes. Quickly realized a somewhat accurate 3d model was the way to go. DEFINITELY worth the effort. Didn't take long to get a working model. I've probably had about 50 different layouts for the sander/dc, press brakes, laser, and material stack. I think this is what I like, at least for now. I have some time to sleep on it. All in all, I think it's going to work well with the available space.
The posts are a major pain in the ***. It's nice having a roof overhead, so they stay
The posts are a major pain in the ***. It's nice having a roof overhead, so they stay
A buddy called yesterday morning to let me know he ran into a tree trimmer in town working for the day. He ended up stopping by and we made what felt like a hell of a deal to drop two trees on my side of the fence.
Before:
He seemed to know what he was doing. Made quick work of it.
All said and done under two hours.
These trees are home to a lot of insects that invade the shop. They are nasty and a huge pain in the ***.
Once I get permission from the adjacent property owner, he’s going to come back and clear the whole fence line.
These old properties are a lot of work to clean up after the decades of neglect. I’m happy to see these trees down.
Before:
He seemed to know what he was doing. Made quick work of it.
All said and done under two hours.
These trees are home to a lot of insects that invade the shop. They are nasty and a huge pain in the ***.
Once I get permission from the adjacent property owner, he’s going to come back and clear the whole fence line.
These old properties are a lot of work to clean up after the decades of neglect. I’m happy to see these trees down.
Jayman17
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If you try and cut down 2 trees in Seattle they stage a protest and hold a candlelight vigil after they come down. 
Had the tree guy come back and take out what is accessible on the neighbor’s side of the fence. He cut in about 6 feet. There’s still plenty on the property, but they are not all up on the building. Here’s hoping the bugs aren’t as bad.
There was a huge tree on this corner. I’m happy to see it cleared.
There was a huge tree on this corner. I’m happy to see it cleared.
I was out of town when the last tree work was done. He wasn’t able to reach some of what I wanted cleared because of the reach of his bucket truck. There was another outfit in the neighborhood yesterday morning. Now, the whole fence line has been cleared.
Something of a two steps forward, one step back kind of thing. The main motivation was to get rid of the trees to help with the insect problem that comes with the elm trees being so close to the building. Now the junkyard next door is much more visible. For now, I’m happy to have the trees adjacent to the building and property down.
Something of a two steps forward, one step back kind of thing. The main motivation was to get rid of the trees to help with the insect problem that comes with the elm trees being so close to the building. Now the junkyard next door is much more visible. For now, I’m happy to have the trees adjacent to the building and property down.
larry4406
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Park several Conex boxes (shipping containers) near the fence and you won’t be able to see it and now you have outdoor dry secure storage.
Strangely, the town that doesn’t do anything about the wildly overgrown trees or long abandoned junk yard/junk cars in the yards won’t allow connex boxes in town. It’s a tiny *** town. I wouldn’t put one there personally either. My plan is 8’ chain link with privacy slats when I have the money to blow on it. It’s an expensive fence. Longer term, I’ll take a run at buying that junkyard and cleaning it up should it ever be available to purchase. Currently he won’t sell or clean up anything.
4 FN 27
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Get soil samples before you invest in a Junkyard. Cleaning up the debris is one thing but cleaning up the soil is another.
GirchyGirchy
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Invite some artists to paint murals on the fence!
67CarGuy
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Love to see the progression of this!
Off topic, but how in the world does a junkyard make money if they don't sell off some junk sometimes? Or is the owner just dependent upon people paying him to take their junk, and then he just sits on it...?
Off topic, but how in the world does a junkyard make money if they don't sell off some junk sometimes? Or is the owner just dependent upon people paying him to take their junk, and then he just sits on it...?
While I definitely appreciate some street art, murals, etc. It is not my personal esthetic. And, that fence is a huge *************. If anything, I'll put up a taller fence directly in front of it to cover it up.
It's not a functioning business. From what I've gathered, it hasn't been in 30-40+ years. It's just a pile of **** wasting away with trees that have overgrown the property and become home to a lot of insects. It's part of this small town. There's another just across the alley, and more across a few blocks of this part of town.Love to see the progression of this!
Off topic, but how in the world does a junkyard make money if they don't sell off some junk sometimes? Or is the owner just dependent upon people paying him to take their junk, and then he just sits on it...?
larry4406
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Cash offer, Building 3....
rattle_snake
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World headquarters!
HVAC company had a cancellation last week. We got the first heat pump installed ahead of the heat wave. They do a good job.
The new Mits hyper heat has wifi built in the head. Made remote control nice and easy. It’s currently 90F outside.
This is a huge improvement over no ac at all. Should make for a more comfortable work day.
The new Mits hyper heat has wifi built in the head. Made remote control nice and easy. It’s currently 90F outside.
This is a huge improvement over no ac at all. Should make for a more comfortable work day.
Andrew S
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Congrats on the AC install. You are going to love everything about that hyper heat unit, except the Comfort app. It's the worst piece of software I've ever seen.
Lots of fun stuff going on in the shop lately.. The new heat pump in Bldg 2 has been a huge upgrade. By this time of the year it’s historically unbearably hot in the building. The heat pump is keeping it pretty cool even on the really hot days.
Lots of sheet metal going through the shop. I sorted out micro joints on the laser. It wasn’t difficult, just had to remember to use them when the situation warrants. The micro joints are a momentary pulse off while cutting. It leaves the part in the sheet… easily knocked out when desired.
This is perfect for small parts. Avoids tip ups and it makes running through the wide belt a lot easier. Pretty cool. These stack ups are always satisfying:
One of the guys at my biggest customer sent over a cad model their engineer made for him.. a fan shroud for a truck they are wanting to drive in a parade today. Forming went well on the brake. I wanted tight corners for welding.
This is the first time I’ve tried to fully metal finish welds like this.
I learned a lot. Definitely far from perfect. Also perfect for his needs and the truck.
Powder coat went well.
He sent me an installed photo about an hour and a half after UPS tracking showed delivered.
He was really stoked on it. Said it’s the first time the truck has maintained temp at idle. It’s funny.. I never imagined I’d be making a part like this. Like I said, it could be better. And it’s definitely good enough. Kinda reigniting the fire to get back to what started it all when I can.. building hot rods.
Lots of sheet metal going through the shop. I sorted out micro joints on the laser. It wasn’t difficult, just had to remember to use them when the situation warrants. The micro joints are a momentary pulse off while cutting. It leaves the part in the sheet… easily knocked out when desired.
This is perfect for small parts. Avoids tip ups and it makes running through the wide belt a lot easier. Pretty cool. These stack ups are always satisfying:
One of the guys at my biggest customer sent over a cad model their engineer made for him.. a fan shroud for a truck they are wanting to drive in a parade today. Forming went well on the brake. I wanted tight corners for welding.
This is the first time I’ve tried to fully metal finish welds like this.
I learned a lot. Definitely far from perfect. Also perfect for his needs and the truck.
Powder coat went well.
He sent me an installed photo about an hour and a half after UPS tracking showed delivered.
He was really stoked on it. Said it’s the first time the truck has maintained temp at idle. It’s funny.. I never imagined I’d be making a part like this. Like I said, it could be better. And it’s definitely good enough. Kinda reigniting the fire to get back to what started it all when I can.. building hot rods.