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kyrbz

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I've got a similar situation going on minus the sketchy tenant. I bought a 50's era building(s) that was formerly a plumbing supply business. I'm turning the part that was the office into my residence and the warehouse part into my shop and wife's studio. Mostly CMU construction with a little brick. It was poorly constructed and in bad condition but I liked the location and the layout of the buildings. Started this project two years ago at the beginning of pandemic when material prices doubled and tripled in some case. Other times I couldn't even get things I needed. I've ended up doing a lot more of the work than I initially envisioned and it's also taking much longer. Regardless, it's all good. Here's a before pic, and a couple of current pics.

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I've got a similar situation going on minus the sketchy tenant. I bought a 50's era building(s) that was formerly a plumbing supply business. I'm turning the part that was the office into my residence and the warehouse part into my shop and wife's studio. Mostly CMU construction with a little brick. It was poorly constructed and in bad condition but I liked the location and the layout of the buildings. Started this project two years ago at the beginning of pandemic when material prices doubled and tripled in some case. Other times I couldn't even get things I needed. I've ended up doing a lot more of the work than I initially envisioned and it's also taking much longer. Regardless, it's all good. Here's a before pic, and a couple of current pics.

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Where's your build thread? Nice work so far... :beer:
 
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In progress this morning after the first dump run:

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After 3.5 dump runs:
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I'm guessing two more days like today for the outside. Inside will probably be two or so as well. That's just to get the trash, junk, etc hauled off.

I think I'll leave the awning or whatever it is called for now. I will be lighting the whole thing up! I think it really helps keep the riff raff away.
 

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It is terribly sad how some people treat a property, I'm glad you are finely through the tough part of the legal battle but it is unfortunate you had to deal with that at all. I know lots of people make a great living with rentals but I've had mixed luck in my limited experience. Good luck with the cleanup and moving forward.

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I know lots of people make a great living with rentals but I've had mixed luck in my limited experience.
JB, sometimes even good tenants can surprise you. Rented a condo to a friend who is sensitive to cigarette smoke. Tenant moved out with zero notice 10 months later because smoke from neighbor's condo was seeping through common wall. Broke even on paint, flooring and appliance upgrades but spent way too much time keeping condo board happy.
 

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There’s a very small rental house that I pass by on the way home. It appears to me that every time someone moves out they have to take a least a month to rebuild the interior. I’m talking drywall and plywood subfloors etc. not just paint.

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Helpers have been making progress on the cleanup. The outside is in pretty good shape and they have moved to the inside. Once they got the 3-4' tall pile of **** out of the living room and back "bedroom", they moved to the kitchen. The bedroom the tenants lived in is really gross. The door is closed and they haven't started on it yet.

I've decided to remove almost everything down there - walls, ceiling paneling, studs, rooms, doors, etc. I want an empty shell. The only wall we are leaving in place is the short wall with the electrical panel in it, The ceiling paneling is thin and held up with a few nails per panel. It came down easily, revealing drywall from when the building was built I'm guessing. We poked a hole in that drywall to see what's up there.

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Interesting style of construction. The upstairs floor is poured over this. There's a center beam with support poles. It won't see serious weight, and it's plenty strong for most uses but probably big cars or really heavy machines.

Interior progress:

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The outside is so much better.

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It's going to clean up really nice.

The plan with the inside is to get it down to the concrete and ceiling drywall. Then clean it all really well. Two coats of Kilz, and bright white topcoat. Then I'll put up some lights and use it as storage. It will make really nice storage. About 750 sq ft of it.
 
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End of the day today. Down to removing a bunch of studs, and some wood paneling on the ceiling. Then it gets pressure washed. Turns out there's two 4" sewer openings in the floor in the old bathroom area. They will be perfect for draining the pressure washer water. Then heat it up and dry it out. Once that's done, it's two good coats of Kilz, and a semi-gloss white topcoat. I love the end result of these transformations. It's SO much work though!
 

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Maybe you need a backpack sprayer with some diluted well shock bleach, hose it down with a stong mix a couple days before it gets pressure washed. Looks great!
 
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The walls will get sprayed down with a strong bleach concentration at least once prior to pressure washing. Need to get rest of the demo done first. All the studs, etc need to come out. Then, bleach. Probably a rinse. And, I'm looking at enzyme cleaners as well. Bottom line is it will get cleaned, then painted. The Kilz Original does a remarkable job.
 
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On the cement, will you use "Dry Lock" or similar and the other surfaces, perhaps, "Kills?" Yes Sir, paint is going to make a BIG difference.
Plan is two coats of Kilz Original, and a semi-gloss latex top coat. Same treatment as the upstairs and in my shop. It’s a lot of work, but the end result is so nice.
 
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Spraying kilz, I recommend you wear one of those protective suits. That **** sticks. They’re pretty cheap, I think I saw HF has them for just a couple bucks.
Yessir! In my main shop thread, several years ago I shared my paint process. I wear a full bunny suit, full face respirator, gloves, hood, etc. Like you said, Kilz is nasty stuff. It does a great job with coverage. The PPE makes for quick cleanup as well.
 

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Doesn't KILZ have a low-VOC version of their primer (presuming you're priming first)? I would think that might help a bit with the fumes. The respirator still sounds like a good idea given the area you're covering though. Definitely going to be a transformation!
 
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slodat

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Doesn't KILZ have a low-VOC version of their primer (presuming you're priming first)? I would think that might help a bit with the fumes. The respirator still sounds like a good idea given the area you're covering though. Definitely going to be a transformation!
I wouldn't be interested in anything other than their Kilz Original. It covers pretty much anything, as well as smells. I don't mind using appropriate PPE. I wear PPE all day every day in the shop. I do believe they offer some latex and other products. I want the good stuff.
 
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First coat of Kilz Original went on this evening. 19 gallons went on well. I’m aware I could back roll it and it would turn out a bit better. For the intended use, this is going to be great as it is. I will decide tomorrow if it gets a second coat of Kilz or if I spray the semi gloss top coat.

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The Kilz is pretty nasty stuff. Extremely strong solvent that necessitates a respirator. And it sticks to EVERYTHING. That’s the idea, of course. Once fully suited up, it’s not bad spraying it. Once there’s a noticeable accumulation on the floor it cakes on your shoes. I have stuff dedicated to the task. No big deal once a guy knows what he’s getting into.

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End of the night..
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This will be a fun, somewhat dramatic transformation for sure.
 
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That white paint will really brighten up the space -- looks good!

It's hard to believe how much work it took to get to this point after the hoarders left.

Steven, I must have missed the part where your tenants moved out, I had to go back a page and saw the mess they left.

Holy ****, I don't know how people can live like that. The work you have done and are doing is amazing. Great job.
Rick and Mike, thank you for the words of encouragement! The tenants are long in the past at this point. They don’t get any airtime for me anymore.

As my business evolves, I’m really grateful I have this building to grow into. The basement is going to be very nice clean, dry storage as well as space for an air compressor. Other support equipment may find it’s way down there as well.

Before any of that can happen, I want the inside painted. This is a huge milestone in that effort.
 
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