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I'm trying to decide between Wright's Double Pawl and Williams Superratchet, which one would you prefer?

Btw, seems that no one has purchased those Facom ratchets posted earlier
 
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Spn1025 said:
What's that un-marked tombstone on the right?
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manufactured by Walden Worcester in Worcester, Massachusetts.
has no markings on it anywhere: no part number, no manufacturer's name, no patent numbers.
it was identified by members here - very similar to the model #1150 but without the knurled handle and without any markings. possibly made to fill a government contract. was also included in the $25 "grab bag" mentioned above.

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MattVette89 said:
I have a pair. They are very nice, but I think they are made in Vietnam.
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I have 3 pairs of them (they come free with wiha micro screw drivers). They're very nice and comfortable. I think as you said, they're made in Vietnam.

Wouldn't every pay 13 bucks for them though when you can buy a micro screwdriver kit for 20 bucks and that comes for free too.
 
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I have a pair. They are very nice, but I think they are made in Vietnam.
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Yeah, I believe they are that's why I included the "says" part. Although in another ad the seller says that only part of pliers are made outside Germany, but doesn't say which part. Still, gotta be better than those Promerica pliers that get listed here every other day and no one ******* about the price of those.
 
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SOCKETS

SK deep socket set 21mm to 26mm
used excellent
auction 6d6h
$0.99 + $6.80 shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SK-deep-soc...:g:rysAAOSwLs5XLdRd&item=222110646509&vxp=mtr


SWIVEL SOCKETS

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VINTAGE S-K 3/8" DRIVE 7 PIECE SWIVEL SOCKET SET IN BOX
used
Auction 6d19h 0 bids
$9.99 + $7.75 shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-S-K...:g:2DkAAOSwQNRXLlcS&item=262426269497&vxp=mtr


SOCKET/RATCHET SET

SK diamond
L404- S-K Tools 3/8" Chrome SAE Socket Set with Ratchet 3/8" to 3/4"
used, like new
auction 6d14h
$10.50 + $7.95 shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/L404-S-K-To...:g:GCQAAOSwiYFXLkw~&item=381626938869&vxp=mtr

(hand driver, no ratchet)
VINTAGE S-K TOOLS 1/4" DRIVE SOCKET SET IN METAL BOX SPINNER HANDLE MADE USA SK
used excellent
auction ending soon 19 hours
$16.25 + $5.25 shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-S-K...429855?hash=item2eee79695f:g:CkcAAOSw6kxXH72J
 
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KAL 3/8 ratchet with some bonuses

6 pc 3/8" Drive Ratchet Socket Set - Mixed Brand - KAL Easco, SK
used, ratchet looks near new

buy now $22.50 free shipping

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-pc-3-8-Dr...575514?hash=item4d3fc8559a:g:wYkAAOSwFqJWjYdS

- KAL 1249 3/8" Drive Ratchet
- Easco 72-1206 3/8" Drive 6" Extension
- SK 45160 3/8" Drive 3" Extension
- Easco 72-1712 3/8" Universal Joint Socket
- KAL 1257 3/8" female to 1/4" Male converter
- Thorsen 90 3/8" female to 1/4" Male converter
 
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"...those Promerica pliers that get listed here every other day..."
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oh yeah... you mean the ones that are made in USA? :lol:

* shipping costs may vary depending upon your geographic location *

ratchet

S-K 40975 1/4" drive "Tuff 1" (72-tooth) RHFT ratchet w/3-inch Craftsman extension
used.
$14.99 + $2.75 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Sat. 05/14
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SK-Tools-1-...:g:BiMAAOSw3mpXLnnB&item=111990242447&vxp=mtr

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S-K 3860 1/4" drive tear-drop (36-tooth) ratchet
new
$10.00 + $3.02 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Thurs. 05/12
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-1-4-dr-SK-RATCHET-/162060813500?hash=item25bb93c4bc:g:if8AAOSw2x1XK2kV

* has anyone else figured out that Ebay search results for "S-K" are different than they are for "SK" ?

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socket

Proto J47116 25-pc 1/4" drive 6-pt SAE socket set w/box
3/16" - 9/16" / shallow / deep-well
new
$90.00 + $14.00 shipping OBO "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROTO-J4711...:g:r1oAAOSwubRXLmT3&item=322100821556&vxp=mtr
(* compare at Amazon.com / Zoro.com / Jet.com *)
(* "Hot Deal" depends upon your powers of persuasion and negotiating tactics. *)

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Armstrong 10-pc 1/4" drive SAE socket set
5/16" - 11/16" (?) (see ad text and photos for content)
used
$19.99 + $6.80 shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Arm...172849?hash=item3ac32656b1:g:EqkAAOSwAvJXBVvA

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Craftsman 18-pc 1/4" drive 6-pt SAE and METRIC socket set w/box
3/16" - 1/2" and 4mm - 8mm
used
=V= (SAE) -V- (metric)
$7.95 + $6.20 shipping now. 1 bid now. ends Tues. 05/10
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-CRA...933787?hash=item1c6692145b:g:W9gAAOSw1DtXLmxO

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Craftsman 17-pc 1/4" and 3/8" drive SAE socket sets (sockets only)
3/16" - 1/2" and 3/8" - 13/16"
used
code? (US made)
$7.99 + $7.00 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Sat. 05/14
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-1...470383?hash=item4afeaf226f:g:o~cAAOSwSclXLfxK

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S-K 7-pc 3/8" drive SAE universal joint socket set w/box
3/8" - 3/4"
used. (sockets look good. box is rough)
$9.99 + $12.40 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Sat. 05/14
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-S-K...:g:2DkAAOSwQNRXLlcS&item=262426269497&vxp=mtr

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wrench

Jensen 8-pc SAE ignition wrench set w/pouch
13/64" - 3/8"
listed as used. like new.
99 cents incl. shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Thurs. 05/12
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-piece-Ang...:g:e90AAOSw1DtXLm5j&item=262426172323&vxp=mtr

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box

Stanley 6-1/2" X 3-1/2" X 1-3/8" box only
used. excellent.
$12.99 incl. shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Stanley...515640?hash=item25bbbcfff8:g:gnkAAOSw1DtXIVhn

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Proto 23" x 8" x 2-1/4" box only
used. good condition.
$8.95 + $14.95 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Mon. 05/09
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Pro...084304?hash=item3d1983f890:g:drsAAOSwO~hXH6yM

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Giller 19" box with 14 pieces of 3/8" drive Giller
used. good condition.
$8.49 + $12.72 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Tues. 05/10
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-19-...684091?hash=item360043e73b:g:4kcAAOSwAuNW8IED

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Craftsman 12-5/8" x 6" x 1-5/8" (with crown logo emblem riveted on lid) box only
used. fair condition.
$9.99 + $14.10 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Tues. 05/10
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-MET...574942?hash=item210eb3a4de:g:qgMAAOSwKfVXKKdf

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S-K 8-3/8" x 3-1/2" x 1-3/8" box only
used. fair condition.
99 cents + $6.00 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Sun. 05/08 17:46 PDT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-S-K...:g:a5kAAOSwVllXHWQT&item=262415734677&vxp=mtr

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vintage / collector

Craftsman 13-pc 1/4" drive SAE socket set w/box "circle H"
7/32" - 3/8" (incomplete - missing a couple sockets and "tee" bar for breaker)
used
"circle H"
$45.00 + $6.85 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Tues. 05/17
http://www.ebay.com/itm/vtg-CRAFTSM...:g:uNIAAOSw1DtXLoKF&item=222111158384&vxp=mtr

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Craftsman 21-pc 1/4" drive SAE socket set w/wrong box
3/16" - 1/2" (see photos and ad text for content)
used.
mixed mostly =V= also -V- VV and either BE or "circle H" (see photos)
99 cents + $6.90 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Thurs. 05/12
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Cra...:g:5WcAAOSwubRXLnh1&item=262426199633&vxp=mtr
 
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^ shipping on that ratchet to me is only $7.75 - now you know why I always put that line at the top of my posts.

that 40975 S-K 1/4" ratchet I posted on the previous page only has a 4-inch handle.
so how come when I do a Google search on "40975 S-K" everybody is telling me it's got a 6-inch handle? am I seeing things? what's up with that?

I need to go look for some more deals on Proamerica pliers. ;)
 
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Spn1025 said:
Is there a way to tell which SK wrenches are USA and which are imports (without being able to see the USA stamping)? They use the same part numbers don't they?
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All SK wrenches are USA made? Any ratcheting wrenches that aren't the kastar/lang style or the new X-frames, however, are made in Taiwan. They are 90 tooth ratcheting wrenches made under pre-ideal SK.
 
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Paul, also check out Amazon for the Expert and Blackhawk (Proto) brands.
They both had those screwdrivers. Expert with blue handles and Blackhawk with black handles.
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We don't get those brands here, but we do get Britool Expert which is blue which I forgot.
Watch eBay and they come up fairly often.
 
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^ I thought all S-K was US-manufactured.
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Nope, it is now but under the Facom owned period they slipped in quite a lot of Euro made stuff and the Taiwan ratchet wrenches, I have never bought a non USA SK item that wasn't really decent stuff. The few years after SBD let the management buy them out up until the bankruptcy and Ideal buyout are the worst for quality.
 
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Upon checking, I have several SK tools from the Dresser era, and the remaining ones are from the current Ideal Industries era. The only tool from the Facom era I have is the T-Handle 1/4" Drive Bit driver and Scraper Set. Never knew SK sourced tools from Taiwan. It's not to say USA made SK tools were the best several years ago, as I do see significant chrome loss in some of the 1/4" Drive sockets I have from probably the 90's era. I wonder how SK will warranty them, especially if the part numbers are no longer found in their catalog. Will they replace them with something equivalent?
 
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Loscaldazar said:
All SK wrenches are USA made? Any ratcheting wrenches that aren't the kastar/lang style or the new X-frames, however, are made in Taiwan. They are 90 tooth ratcheting wrenches made under pre-ideal SK.
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So all regular combo wrenches will be USA and all standard ratcheting wrenches are Taiwan...that makes it easy.
I only have 1 ratcheting wrench from SK that I got cheap on Amazon. Was disappointed that it wasn't USA. Glad I didn't spend money trying to put a set together yet. I guess my only hope would be the X-frames.
 
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Quick note on "SK" vs "S-K" searches.. I'm pretty sure "SK" will give you all of them (including SK, S-K, S&K), while "S-K" will only give you just the "S-K" listings.

I'll verify later
 
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^^^Interesting find, hopefully will be able to expand my search :beer:

On another note, I purchased a NOS Irwin Vise Grip Set (three vise grips) and noticed that though the packaging states Made in USA (packaging included Made in China pouch), no where on the actual hand tool does it specify USA. Any thoughts on this? The blister packaging says Made in USA of global components, could that be the reason? I wonder where in the USA these Vise grips were manufactured, certainly not the old Dewitt factory :confused:
 
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Looking for individual WrightGrip wrenches to give them a whirl. Really want to do an individualized comparison test :lol_hitti
 
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winlinmac said:
^^^Interesting find, hopefully will be able to expand my search :beer:

On another note, I purchased a NOS Irwin Vise Grip Set (three vise grips) and noticed that though the packaging states Made in USA (packaging included Made in China pouch), no where on the actual hand tool does it specify USA. Any thoughts on this? The blister packaging says Made in USA of global components, could that be the reason? I wonder where in the USA these Vise grips were manufactured, certainly not the old Dewitt factory :confused:
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Hi Winlin, again, the search function in the tools section would bring up lots of answers on the vice-grips. These were assembled at Petersen before it completely shut down but with parts made elsewhere. Not the same as older true Petersens but better than the current Irwins, which are really junk. - Paul
 
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winlinmac said:
Upon checking, I have several SK tools from the Dresser era, and the remaining ones are from the current Ideal Industries era. The only tool from the Facom era I have is the T-Handle 1/4" Drive Bit driver and Scraper Set. Never knew SK sourced tools from Taiwan. It's not to say USA made SK tools were the best several years ago, as I do see significant chrome loss in some of the 1/4" Drive sockets I have from probably the 90's era. I wonder how SK will warranty them, especially if the part numbers are no longer found in their catalog. Will they replace them with something equivalent?
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While I love all US tools, SK in the Facom era I would not be afraid of in any way. Facom made great quality sockets, screwdrivers, etc. I actually have a set of Facom 1/4" deep sockets and I want to say quality there is Snap-On level, very good. - Paul
 
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^I don't know how I missed that Clamp on Vise, it's got to be USA (almost looks Vintage to me)
 
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Spn1025 said:
KAL 3/8 ratchet with some bonuses

6 pc 3/8" Drive Ratchet Socket Set - Mixed Brand - KAL Easco, SK
used, ratchet looks near new

buy now $22.50 free shipping

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-pc-3-8-Dr...575514?hash=item4d3fc8559a:g:wYkAAOSwFqJWjYdS

- KAL 1249 3/8" Drive Ratchet
- Easco 72-1206 3/8" Drive 6" Extension
- SK 45160 3/8" Drive 3" Extension
- Easco 72-1712 3/8" Universal Joint Socket
- KAL 1257 3/8" female to 1/4" Male converter
- Thorsen 90 3/8" female to 1/4" Male converter
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Spin, thanks for all the work and great finds you've been posting. Top notch efforts sir. :rocker: :thumbup: - Paul
 
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ratchet

S-K 45170 3/8" drive RHFT ratchet
used
$15.99 + $3.99 shipping "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SK-3-8-Ratc...:g:IGEAAOSwt7pXL3Oc&item=131807121466&vxp=mtr

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socket

Blackhawk 14-pc 1/4" drive METRIC socket set w/box
5mm - 12mm
used
$34.50 incl. shipping OBO "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bla...:g:J~sAAOSwShJXL20j&item=162064156093&vxp=mtr

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Craftsman 36-pc 1/4" drive SAE and METRIC socket set
3/16" - 1/2" and 4mm - 14mm / shallow / deep-well
used
code? (US made)
$12.00 + $5.00 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Fri. 05/13
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-T...131682?hash=item210f086ee2:g:m2sAAOSw3mpXLzbq

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Craftsman 9-pc 1/4" drive 6-pt METRIC universal joint socket set (sockets only)
5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,14
used
code? (US made)
$11.00 + $6.76 shipping now. 4 bids now. ends Sun. 05/15
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-9...754942?hash=item5d647b363e:g:u48AAOSwF0NXL0id

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Proto 10-pc 3/8" drive 6-pt SAE socket set (sockets only)
5/16" - 1" (3/8" is 12-pt)
used
$29.99 incl. shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Thurs. 05/12
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROTO-3-8-D...:g:kwUAAOSwQNRXLpkf&item=172198029403&vxp=mtr

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Wright 21-pc 3/8" drive SAE socket set w/box
1/4" - 7/8" / shallow / deep-well
used.
$50.00 + $7.85 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Sat. 05/14
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Socket-Wren...:g:ECsAAOSw2GlXHXbL&item=322101100178&vxp=mtr

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Thorsen 17-pc 3/8" drive 12-pt SAE socket set
3/8" - 3/4" sockets shallow and deep-well, extension, 77JC ratchet
used
$34.50 incl. shipping OBO "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162064134252?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

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Craftsman 8-pc 3/8" drive 6-pt METRIC universal joint socket set (sockets only)
10,11,12,13,14,15,17,18
used
code? (US made)
$2.25 + $6.76 shipping now. 2 bids now. ends Sun. 05/15
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-8...758525?hash=item5d647b443d:g:I0gAAOSw0OJXL0tm

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Fleet 26-pc 1/4" hex drive, 3/8" and 1/2" square drive 12-pt SAE socket set w/box
1/4" - 1"
used
$43.95 incl. shipping OBO "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fleet-Penen...214437?hash=item51e4a2a1a5:g:hb4AAOSw-RRXB8ZZ

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Wright 16-pc 1/2"drive 12-pt SAE socket set w/box
7/16" - 1-1/4"
new
$39.99 + $25.85 shipping now. 0 bids now. ends Sun. 05/15
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wright-tool...722099?hash=item464db9a273:g:UQUAAOSwWF5XL3Zm

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vintage / collector

Stevens Walden (Walden Worcester) 14-pc 1/4" drive SAE socket set w/original box
3/16" - 7/16" sockets, breaker, t-bar, spinner
used.
$17.99 + $6.50 shipping OBO "buy now"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/14pc-Vintag...482043?hash=item2368e1c5bb:g:zhAAAOSwSclXL07i
 
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winlinmac said:
On another note, I purchased a NOS Irwin Vise Grip Set (three vise grips) and noticed that though the packaging states Made in USA (packaging included Made in China pouch), no where on the actual hand tool does it specify USA. Any thoughts on this? The blister packaging says Made in USA of global components, could that be the reason? I wonder where in the USA these Vise grips were manufactured, certainly not the old Dewitt factory :confused:
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I noticed Milwaukee's current China-Grips proudly proclaim 'USA pat. no *** on the side.

four.cycle said:
manufactured by Walden Worcester in Worcester, Massachusetts.
has no markings on it anywhere: no part number, no manufacturer's name, no patent numbers.
it was identified by members here - very similar to the model #1150 but without the knurled handle and without any markings. possibly made to fill a government contract. was also included in the $25 "grab bag" mentioned above.
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I have one just like that that came from a California aviation background.
 
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