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It has been a few years since I’ve been in Utah. I didn’t have problems I’m Moab but I’m hoping things haven’t changed...or have they? Colorado is indifferent so at home I’m good.

I've not had any issues in/around Moab, but the UHP seems to love people on I70 going there between the state line and Hwy 191. Mine is trailered, so they don't pull me over but I've been given the stink eye from one going by with the CJ on the trailer.

I've seen your son a couple of times in the last few months. The LJ looks great in person.
 
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They started cracking down up north here about a year or so ago.



With my 35's I never got hassled one bit but within a couple months of going to the 37's I was pulled over just about a mile from my house by a highway patrol. He got me for inadequate fender coverage, mudflaps, rear license plate because it was ever so slightly blocked by my toggle clamp on the carrier if you were looking at it from the right side of the vehicle and no front plate.



My son got nailed exactly a week later in his WJ within about a mile of where I got nailed on I-15 for fender coverage and mudflaps.



The biggest problem I have is they seem to be targeting Jeeps in particular. I still see many lifted trucks with no flaps and tires sticking clear out past the body every day on the freeway but it seems the Jeeps are starting to have flaps and I'm starting to see those ugly Bushwacker wide flares more and more.



You will have NO issues in Moab as I feel they are a little more understanding on where their revenue comes from. When we travel I usually remove the flaps as soon as we enter the campground and never put them back on until we were hooking the Jeep up to the coach to return home and haven't had any issues in the past year and a half.


Not sure why it’s such a big deal. Guess kicking up stiff and potentially breaking people’s windshields...maybe. You’re right though about the lifted trucks. There shouldn’t be a difference.

Did t even think about you getting pulled over in the coach while towing because the Jeep didn’t have flaps...that’s crazy.
 
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I've not had any issues in/around Moab, but the UHP seems to love people on I70 going there between the state line and Hwy 191. Mine is trailered, so they don't pull me over but I've been given the stink eye from one going by with the CJ on the trailer.

I've seen your son a couple of times in the last few months. The LJ looks great in person.


They’re giving you **** for having the Jeep ON the trailer?! Oh hell.

You’ve seen it? Did you get to walk around it or just in passing? Figured it was only a matter of time before someone spots it given how much he’s been cruising it. I took it for a spin today since my Jeep is down and he had the Camry. Need to address the bumpsywer but otherwise it drives great.
 

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Oh no, no issue with it being on the trailer. Just a dirty look.

I haven't seen the LJ up close unfortunately, it has just been in passing.
 

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The unit is an electric motor driven plug that you solid mount to the wall or a shelf.

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Matt- link or info on the pressure washer? Why did you chose this one, etc? I fear I may be in the market. I feel like I saw a deionizer in another photo, maybe in a different thread?
 

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Not trying to take over, but I'd like to add this in first. It is really a lot harder to lend-out [or steal] when it is bolted/plumbed to the building, is a really good reason to start! IMO. These never runs out of gas, the carb is never gummed up, it is always where you left it as well. These are very popular for companies with a fleet to keep clean.
Matt- link or info on the pressure washer? Why did you chose this one, etc? I fear I may be in the market. I feel like I saw a deionizer in another photo, maybe in a different thread?
The deionizer was in Mike's thread [Z-Motorsports Motor Coach wash/detailing area IIRC].
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Matt- link or info on the pressure washer? Why did you chose this one, etc? I fear I may be in the market. I feel like I saw a deionizer in another photo, maybe in a different thread?


Not sure how I missed this, apologize...been bouncing back and forth between working from home and home projects to stay busy and haven’t been on much...

I’d been looking around for an electric motor driven pump and had no way of knowing which were good and which weren’t. Honestly, I kinda just took a leap on this unit through Amazon after probing around on the companies site. Turns out wot be a good unit. I end up using it about 4 times per week and it’s so damn nice having it on a switch I do t even mind rolling up the hose after every use (even when it’s multiple times per day). Likes it so much I gave them a 5 star review too. Think the price was about where it is now, just over $600.

Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JW6BVYY/?tag=atomicindus08-20

The site: https://greencanpump.ca/product-cat...HVsS9RrR4H5g3CCT6Fid6rgkC2531T4RoCYKUQAvD_BwE

You are right, I also got a De-Ionization setup as well. Also found the company “On the Go” on Amazon but ended up researching their website and having a few calls with them directly before ordering. It’s a little start up company that has a variety of levels of products they sell to brewers, food industry, and car wash setups like mine and bigger. Think the deal was around $450 shipped. I ended up getting the slightly larger setup than what’s advertised on Amazon so I wouldn’t have to replace the consumables as frequently.

Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KVPO21C/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Their site: https://www.portablewaterdi.com/

Other than plumbing fittings, there’s really only one other significant piece I’d recommend. I got these A/C vibration isolators which I installed between the pump and the rigid mount it sits on (which attaches to the wall). These isolators eliminates any vibration noise and now the pump only hums when it’s running. Worked so damn good I bought another set for my 3 phases converter. [emoji41]

Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076CLN193/?tag=atomicindus08-20

All in all the setup wasn’t cheap but it works awesome. The DI element is probably the best part. I pre-rinse the car, spray it down with a Foam Cannon, was it with the two bucket method, quick rinse most of the soap off, DI rinse it, and let it air dry. Every time the windows are spotless and the paint on even my older cars looks spotless. Showroom detailing at a fraction of the effort.








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You are right, I also got a De-Ionization setup as well. Also found the company “On the Go” on Amazon but ended up researching their website and having a few calls with them directly before ordering. It’s a little start up company that has a variety of levels of products they sell to brewers, food industry, and car wash setups like mine and bigger. Think the deal was around $450 shipped. I ended up getting the slightly larger setup than what’s advertised on Amazon so I wouldn’t have to replace the consumables as frequently.

Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KVPO21C/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Their site: https://www.portablewaterdi.com/
I don't know why I didn't remember you having one of those(?) Unless it was in thread Re-Org. #1. So I will have to find time to look through that one as well some time soon. Here is the link to Z-Motorsports one for more info.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7061971&postcount=838
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How is your Jeep project going?


Good, suppose I owe everyone an update. We got the sliders and the fenders installed. No real issues. Motobilt makes some very nice parts. Their fit and finish is better than any Offroad companies I’ve experienced (and I’ve seen just a few).

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And that’s right about the time I got distracted by the Covid-home-project-a-thon 2020. Wife said we needed to redo the fireplace

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Ok, so I demo’d it.

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No good deed goes unpunished though, just before I started to tile, I was chatting at my neighbor over the fence about how crappy our HVAC systems are (no returns upstairs) when he mentioned that he thought it was possible to extend the return that was behind the fireplace to go up into the master bedroom. We’ll hell, I now had access to behind the fireplace so I did some measuring....and then some more cutting

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So now I can stand above and behind the fireplace figuring out if it was even possible...

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And a plan was formulated. As luck would have it, the studs on tat particular wall were actually perfectly aligned with the studs on the upstairs master bedroom wall. Like no F’n way...but they were. So we moved the bed in the upstairs master bedroom and I cut into the wall so I could get into the attic behind.

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and started to box in 2 cavities in the wall for the new return. I now had access to the floor vents we had always talked about moving so...yeah, moved them 12 1/2” out on either side of the bed.

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the bed posts actually sit where the old vents were so I had to beef the **** up out of them below the floor. Like way over-built (2x6 enough?)

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right about that time I lost my **** when I kept mis-placing my tape measures because I was running back and forth between rooms, floors, and the shop. My wife got me a care package to help me overcome my frustration.

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Now I couldn’t access the whole cavity behind the fire place so I had to cut into the wall under my wife’s desk in the office behind it in order to.

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Meanwhile, in the house caddy corner to ours out back, they were busting out their porch and re-poured it. Got a kick out of where they put the back door step. Wonder if they even noticed?!

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Got after the floor tile. Goes fast enough but is killer on the back and knees.

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Got Andrew in on the grouting and cleaning process.

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And then the veneer to the face of the fireplace ended up being much easier than all that other ****. Start at the bottom and work to the top.

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Until you’re piecing in the last few by hand. Done?

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Before/After.

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We’ve come this far, should we get a bigger TV? Maybe an 80”?!

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The next day “at work” (from my makeshift office in the dining room) a car stopped in front of my house and started taking pictures. Turns out it was some looser taking pictures of my trash cans which resulted in a nastygram letter from the HOA a few days later.

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Snuck out to the shop to get a few minutes in on the Jeep. Needed to modify the rear license plate bracket so I could mount a rear facing camera under it using a camera mount that Motobilt makes for the JL (mine’s a JK). Had to cut off their logo (I paid full price anyway).

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Needed to clearance it a little more so the mount would fit up under it.

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Used the mill to square up the bottom and get the clearance even side to side.

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That’ll work.

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Andrew’s front 2.5” Fox Factory Race shocks finally arrived. Took FOREVER but they look damn good in place. Seems my measurements were just barely off so we needed to add an additional 1” of bump. Wasn’t a big deal, kinda needed it, there was some rubber on the underside of the fender so it was rubbing anyway.

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Working all day at the dining room table is **** and 5 months is enough of it. Decided I needed to convert the guest bedroom into an office/guest bedroom. Built a Murphy bed...yeah I did.

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Hard to believe such a huge bed can really fold up out of the way.

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Found some kick-*** laminate to use on the desktop. Made it out of Baltic birch ply.

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Then had an idea - what if I age/weather the edge of the plywood and then poly-finish it? Attached to the bottom of the bed using a French cleat so it would be easily removable. The leg is one-piece only needing 2 screws to attach/detach it. Strong as hell.

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And this is my new home 8-5. Still need to paint the underside of the bed, decorate it a bit with pictures and ****, and then add an LED strip for desk light. Otherwise, it’s SO much better.

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AND I got the parts uninstalled from the Jeep and down to Powder Coat. More to come on the Jeep. :D
 

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Recently I got this box in the mail that had been delivered to the neighbor’s house some time ago but they forgot to get it to me. Since I wasn’t expecting it, imagine my surprise when I opened it and this slid out.

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Had Richard from Trusty Cook not dropped a note inside I still could have figured out where it came from...look familiar? Does to me, looks an awful lot like the face of my Stubby Cousin twins - like, my favorite deadblow hammer (arguably the best deadblow hammer ever made).

What an interesting tool. Andrew and I proceeded to use it for al kinds of stuff. It’s way much easier to swing in tight spaces where the length of the head of a hammer isn’t easy to navigate. What makes it even easier is you don’t have to land the blow on the head directly, even if the blow is off-center it‘s effective which surprised me a little initially. What I found interesting is Andrew was reaching for it twice as often as I was. Somehow he connected with it. “Hey dad, get that new hammer, that would perfect!”

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Another pro is that it fits almost anywhere on a more than cluttered bench.

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What’s odd about this hammer, but somewhat satisfying, is it’s so much like a flashlight it’s silly. All through College (both times) I worked as a bouncer in some fairly large clubs. I used to carry a small streamlight flashlight that I had a small holster for which I kept positioned right behind my right hip. Carrying it there for so many yeas must have generated muscle memory this hammer reactivated because I found myself trying to put the hammer away like the flashlight more than a few times which was odd. It now I want a holster for it.

While working on the bed, I found what I think is likely the best use for it that I’ve found to date but completely inadvertently. You can smack the ever living **** out of a non-strike cap screw driver, wood chisel, pry-bar, or other tool without the usual consequence. The weight of it seems to overcome the fact that it doesn’t have a solid/metal striking face and the strike rarely is square on the tool given the face is round. I tried it in both handle positions. When I choke up on it, it’s too short. Perfect in the bottom position.

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Yeah, it’s like a bad-*** “chisel mallet”. I used it for exactly this reason for about 4 hours on my Murphy bed project recently where I had to chisel to fit a dozen or so slots in bed frame.

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Also, the ring in the middle really threw me when it came out of the box. Initially I didn’t get it’s point, seemed like it would limit where I could grip it. The more I use it though, the more I’m noticing I like it. Keeps my hand where it is throughout a swing and keeps my grip position consistent. For wood working in particular, that’s kinda handy because your attention is focused on the material, the chisel, and your hand placement instead of the hammer.

I’ve used it in a bunch of other situations mostly in awkward positions where a full headed hammer would be tough. I used it tapping some coooer pipe into place (which before I would have uses a TC Zero deadblow for previously. We used the small end to tap the lower shock eye off of a stud on my sons Jeep which dis the job without leaving any marks (thankfully). I can also see it coming along with me in the Jeep for longer trips to replace that Louisville Slugger. I was thinking about naming it the enforcer initially but now I kinda want to name it Guido. ;)~.

I have absolutely no idea how Guido the whacker wand came to be but I appreciate the innovation that’s coming out of Trusty Cook. This hammer is unusually satisfying and has earned its spot in the drawer. May even need a blue and a green one (Green is for wood working, Red is automotive, and Blue handles everything else). Thanks Richard, you guys crushed it once again.
 

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Recently I got this box in the mail that had been delivered to the neighbor’s house some time ago but they forgot to get it to me. Since I wasn’t expecting it, imagine my surprise when I opened it and this slid out.

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Had Richard from Trusty Cook not dropped a note inside I still could have figured out where it came from...look familiar? Does to me, looks an awful lot like the face of my Stubby Cousin twins - like, my favorite deadblow hammer (arguably the best deadblow hammer ever made).

What an interesting tool. Andrew and I proceeded to use it for al kinds of stuff. It’s way much easier to swing in tight spaces where the length of the head of a hammer isn’t easy to navigate. What makes it even easier is you don’t have to land the blow on the head directly, even if the blow is off-center it‘s effective which surprised me a little initially. What I found interesting is Andrew was reaching for it twice as often as I was. Somehow he connected with it. “Hey dad, get that new hammer, that would perfect!”

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Another pro is that it fits almost anywhere on a more than cluttered bench.

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What’s odd about this hammer, but somewhat satisfying, is it’s so much like a flashlight it’s silly. All through College (both times) I worked as a bouncer in some fairly large clubs. I used to carry a small streamlight flashlight that I had a small holster for which I kept positioned right behind my right hip. Carrying it there for so many yeas must have generated muscle memory this hammer reactivated because I found myself trying to put the hammer away like the flashlight more than a few times which was odd. It now I want a holster for it.

While working on the bed, I found what I think is likely the best use for it that I’ve found to date but completely inadvertently. You can smack the ever living **** out of a non-strike cap screw driver, wood chisel, pry-bar, or other tool without the usual consequence. The weight of it seems to overcome the fact that it doesn’t have a solid/metal striking face and the strike rarely is square on the tool given the face is round. I tried it in both handle positions. When I choke up on it, it’s too short. Perfect in the bottom position.

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Yeah, it’s like a bad-*** “chisel mallet”. I used it for exactly this reason for about 4 hours on my Murphy bed project recently where I had to chisel to fit a dozen or so slots in bed frame.

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Also, the ring in the middle really threw me when it came out of the box. Initially I didn’t get it’s point, seemed like it would limit where I could grip it. The more I use it though, the more I’m noticing I like it. Keeps my hand where it is throughout a swing and keeps my grip position consistent. For wood working in particular, that’s kinda handy because your attention is focused on the material, the chisel, and your hand placement instead of the hammer.

I’ve used it in a bunch of other situations mostly in awkward positions where a full headed hammer would be tough. I used it tapping some coooer pipe into place (which before I would have uses a TC Zero deadblow for previously. We used the small end to tap the lower shock eye off of a stud on my sons Jeep which dis the job without leaving any marks (thankfully). I can also see it coming along with me in the Jeep for longer trips to replace that Louisville Slugger. I was thinking about naming it the enforcer initially but now I kinda want to name it Guido. ;)~.

I have absolutely no idea how Guido the whacker wand came to be but I appreciate the innovation that’s coming out of Trusty Cook. This hammer is unusually satisfying and has earned its spot in the drawer. May even need a blue and a green one (Green is for wood working, Red is automotive, and Blue handles everything else). Thanks Richard, you guys crushed it once again.

Looks like you found new uses for their coming new product?

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right about that time I lost my **** when I kept mis-placing my tape measures because I was running back and forth between rooms, floors, and the shop. My wife got me a care package to help me overcome my frustration.

That is an afternoons worth of Tapes to loose...
 

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Is Moto-Bilt the original owner of Blue Torch Fab? There are similarities between MB and old BTF products.

I have the itch now really bad for an 04-06 LJ. Went wheeling to Wheeler lake yesterday and that trail has gotten really rough. My old CJ, capable as it is, just beat the hell out of us and the JKs we were with were just crusing on through the boulder fields like they were nothing.

Who was your homebuilder? I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who constantly misplaced tape measures. If I would just get into the habit of using a tool belt I wouldn't forget where I put whatever tool that was just being used.
 
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Is Moto-Bilt the original owner of Blue Torch Fab? There are similarities between MB and old BTF products.

I have the itch now really bad for an 04-06 LJ. Went wheeling to Wheeler lake yesterday and that trail has gotten really rough. My old CJ, capable as it is, just beat the hell out of us and the JKs we were with were just crusing on through the boulder fields like they were nothing.

Who was your homebuilder? I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who constantly misplaced tape measures. If I would just get into the habit of using a tool belt I wouldn't forget where I put whatever tool that was just being used.


Yes, BM is BTF. It’s evident in their parts. What’s strange thought is BTF was all about the extreme buggy build and MB not so much. The owner is the same, not sure why the change. One day BTF was just gone.

Now that were done with the LJ, I gotta day, it’s probably the best format I’ve ever built off of. The JK’s are nice but too many curves. I’m wishing now that I’d bout an LJ for myself instead. You could convert the CJ to coils or coil-overs and get close. Short of the feature comforts, it would be very similar.

Offhand our home builder is eluding me...
 
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Got THE call today, Powder Coater has my parts ready. [emoji857][emoji857]

Headed down but needed to be creative about getting them home, no truck you see. Did a little caravan with Andrew, like Jeep Rally style.

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We were able to get the rear bumper, fenders, and the bottom piece of the Motobilt sliders installed inside of 20 minutes. #teamwork

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Damn happy about the color choices we made. Since the Jeep top is white, it was hard to completely abandon the black/white theme so we stuck with it...but with a few tweaks.

We managed to find an OE matching Jeep Bright White powder coat...know how damn unusual that is?!?! With that in our pocket, we colored the kicker portion of the slider to match the body. We carried through the learning moment on Andrew’s Jeep, the Black Oxide stainless bolts, and ended up with a sick contrast unlike we’ve seen before.

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Now I’ve tried to match powder coat quite a few times, and I’ve gotten close, but not this close. It’s perfect. The kicker portion of the slider is completely muted which creates a unique contrast of the slider against the body.

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It’s getting a little dark out so we’re going to hold for now and come back to it tomorrow. There’s plenty of goodies in the box we look forward to getting installed.

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Thanks for following, much more to come in this build!
 

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Got a little more time in on the Jk. The hind end needed a deep clean, polish, and wax before adding on the fresh parts.

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Started with a very simple mod - the license plate delete.

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Then started in on the rear tire carrier. It’s a fairly simple design - replaces the factory hinges more or less and beefs up the tailgate attachment points. We match colored this element so it would blend in from a distance mostly because I’ve never felt the tire carrier should be a focal point.

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Then we installed the black tire mount, license plate bracket, and rear backup camera assembly.

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Hope I don’t get a flat. The wire through the center of the wheel requires a partial disassembly to get the tire off. Cool setup, dumb feature.

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Next is the rear bumper which has provisioning for backup lights. We’d kinda skipped the mock up step so was a slight surprise to find out the light mount was too low. We stacked washers until we had the correct offset

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And then measured the necessary offset with calipers (and added a smidgen)

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Grabbed a little 6061 Rod and stopped by the lathe for a little spin time

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Ended up with an identical pair of spacers.

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A smidgen over (a smidgen is ~.020 I guess)

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Back to the bumper for mockup

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Good to go.

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Got the bumper installed and had an interesting learning moment. The powder coat must act like a lubricant because the bumper just slid on with little to no effort (or the process of heating it opened it up a little). When we had test fit it a few times we had to fight it...

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Rear end done. Liking the color and texture contrast.

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Thanks for following along.
 

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This is looking so good!

Thanks for keeping up with the documentation!


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The Jeep is looking GREAT Matt. I like the color matched components.

I love machining those little spacers for things as it gives it the final detail that they need.

I made a couple to stand off my transmission cooler out away from the A/C condenser about .375" and then painted them black to hide. No one can see them because they blend in but I know they're there and it provides peace in my head.:lol:

Oh, and by the way, nice plug for the license plate.:bounce:
 
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The Jeep is looking GREAT Matt. I like the color matched components.



I love machining those little spacers for things as it gives it the final detail that they need.



I made a couple to stand off my transmission cooler out away from the A/C condenser about .375" and then painted them black to hide. No one can see them because they blend in but I know they're there and it provides peace in my head.:lol:



Oh, and by the way, nice plug for the license plate.:bounce:



Thanks Mike. Yeah, little lathe parts are very satisfying. It is those finishing touches, those little details, which take a build or project to that next level.

The JK is getting there. Absolutely hate waiting on the powder coater tho. Took a little more than 4 weeks this time which creates a hell of a gap in posting updates. It’s also damn expensive. The big stud coats what it costs but the little stuff - I can’t really take everything down as I make things so I have to wait until the end of the build and tear everything down...but I always miss a bracket or end up with one that didn’t go in the batch which I end up having to paint. So I’m kinda done with all of this after 2 builds...

We made 3 new tool purchases to up our game on the Jeep builds. Starting small, will upgrade if this new capability becomes a thing for us. This came freight -

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We got it all setup and blasted a few parts. Worked fairly week but might want to make a few upgrades.

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Some hooks for cable organization around the shop that I recently made. Left is like it came out of the welding fixture, right is blasted.

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For fun I blasted these light brackets that came off my old bumper to see how difficult removing powder is. Not too bad.

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And this came in a Camry Hybrid. [emoji2957]

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Of course we built a cabinet. Oven installed.

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Will get the sand blast cabinet installed below the oven as soon as the 600lb drawer slides arrive.

The 3rd tool is on its way. So excited. I’d start a drum roll but my arms might get tired....
 

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Nice work on the Jeep. The color matched panels and that spare tire mount really make it look great. Having a black tire mount would have just thrown it off. It's nice to see good fabrication and good design, as one can really distract you from the other.
 

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You'll love having a blasting cabinet Matt. That was one of the first purchases I made back in the late 80's when I started doing a lot of restoration work and they are a nice piece of equipment to have.



Matter of fact while I was at the compressor parts house yesterday picking up my new check valve for my Quincy air compressor, I purchased another bag of crushed glass for my cabinet. I usually use 1/2 a 50 lb. bag at a time and I replaced mine just before we moved and need to replace it again. I don't use my blasting cabinet as much as I used to but it still gets used quite often for little brackets and such.

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Matt, that spare tire looks awfully new. Did you install new tires all the way around or do you not perform a 5-tire rotation?


LONG story...but I’ll abbreviate. When I first built the JK I made the mistake of eyeballing the toe instead of actually doing the work. I wasn’t going to drive it but then we ran into a moment where we were down a vehicle. It had been sitting in the garage so long I spaced I’d never set the toe correctly and drove it just long enough to cup the fronts just a bit. When I finally realized it, I made the decision I’d only rotate the 4 around and swap in 2 new ones at the half tread mark rotating the spare in with the new 2, following another 2 tires a year or so later to the mix.

Too complicated. I know better, do the work.

Now I’m going to buy one, rotate the spare on to the front with the new tire, put the best of the cupped two on as a dedicated spare, and then do a 4 tire rotation until I go LS and 40’s hopefully next year. [emoji3060]

Edit: Mike, I shoulda known you’d notice when I posted that pic.
 
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Yes one must make some capitol investments in order to save time and money on the important things in life. Assuming 3rd item is the powered coat gun/power supply??


Yep, you got it. The last two weeks of waiting for my parts to be done I researched coating systems. I think all noobs likely go through the same process I went through and typically land in the $250-ish range with either a harbor freight-ish import gun or the starter Eastwood kit. The Eastwood kit seems to have quite a following and many use it with really good results. I almost bought it but just couldn’t pull the trigger because I’m, more or less, a tool-a-file. I decided to research up a level and arbitrarily set the price range to $500-$1k. Seems the most appreciated setup came from Columbia Coating called the Hyper Smooth system. From there I learned about Faraday Cage Effect (which is essentially where the charge fights your ability to coat in corners, nooks, and crannies...and landed on the Kool Koat 2.0. Why not.

Disclaimer: it pains me not to have a cabinet dedicated to the power supply yet and a gun holder...

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The gun is fairly simple but comes with a ton of accessories.

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As luck would have it, a bunch of powder also arrived from Prismatic. Like, where to start.

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With all of the pieces and parts now, we were understandably anxious to try it out. We setup an impromptu station under the hanging bikes and got after a few very simple coating tasks starting with the hose hooks in satin black.

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We coated and baked in 3 batches of 4. The finish was outstanding.

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Better than any power coated part I’ve taken out of a box in recent memory. As they cooled, I of course swapped them into place...

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Anxious, I also wanted to try coating some bolts. We’ve been using black oxide stainless hardware for all of our Jeep parts. Though they work very well, it totally ***** that I can’t use the stainless natural finish hardware supplied with the parts and have to buy all of this additional hardware. Big $$$ and another set of hardware on hand. Sand blasted the head of one and threw it in on the last batch of hooks.

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Super impressed on the finish

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And how well it got into the hex.

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With such a successful test, I now need to track down the powder used on my parts so I can match coat some hardware. There’s a Cardinal Paint dealer here in town, I’ll start there for matching the black. Fortunately I was the one who found the Bright Jeep White so a few pounds is already inbound.

Andrew and I are already talking about building a full sized oven and upgrading the blasting cabinet...crazy things happen when you never leave the house. First things first tho, we need a coating cabinet. That powder gets EVERYWHERE!! [emoji317]

Happy Friday Eve.
 

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You'll love having a blasting cabinet Matt. That was one of the first purchases I made back in the late 80's when I started doing a lot of restoration work and they are a nice piece of equipment to have.


Andrew already had about 3 hours on ours. I can now see the value in having one. I can also see how using it can get old really quickly. We’re thinking of upgrading it to have an external pot already so the feed is more consistent. The damn pickup tube is a silly design.

You use glass? After my weeks combing the internet and YouTube, I found that many think this Green Diamond stuff is the best (60-30 which the local place says is now actually 70-40).

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I did get some aluminum Oxide in 100 grit too. It was recommended by Prismatic for prep.

What’s the specs on the Glass?
 

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LONG story...but I’ll abbreviate. When I first built the JK I made the mistake of eyeballing the toe instead of actually doing the work. I wasn’t going to drive it but then we ran into a moment where we were down a vehicle. It had been sitting in the garage so long I spaced I’d never set the toe correctly and drove it just long enough to cup the fronts just a bit. When I finally realized it, I made the decision I’d only rotate the 4 around and swap in 2 new ones at the half tread mark rotating the spare in with the new 2, following another 2 tires a year or so later to the mix.

Too complicated. I know better, do the work.

Now I’m going to buy one, rotate the spare on to the front with the new tire, put the best of the cupped two on as a dedicated spare, and then do a 4 tire rotation until I go LS and 40’s hopefully next year. [emoji3060]

Edit: Mike, I shoulda known you’d notice when I posted that pic.

Sorry to bring up a sore subject Matt.:lol: I just noticed the new spare and was curious.

As for the glass it has the number 70 marked on the bag. I haven't done much research. It's just what I've been using since day one and have been very pleased with the results so I've kept using it. Plus it is inexpensive, $19.95 for a 50 pound bag and I put half the bag in at a time. Back when I was doing restoration work I was changing it twice a year but now I'll go a couple years before changing it. I can tell when it's time as the cutting action diminishes. I also used it a lot when I was building a lot of two-stroke engines for dunes and snowmobiles as it gave a nice finish to the aluminum cylinders as well as good prepwork for painting of the cases and heads as well as other small components. I definitely kept anything that I was going to polish away from the blasting cabinet though.
 

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Change the pickup for your media to be on the bottom exterior of the sump if you can, not the interior. I can blast at 40psi with mine and only 4 cups of media. It's hard to tell what kind of sump that cabinet has.

The gun can make a huge difference as well as does having a foot switch to open and close the air supply vs a gun with a trigger.

Looks like your son has the gun in his left hand. I'm a lefty and set mine up that way. Nobody else likes using my blast cabinet.

The glass that Tractor Supply is pretty good stuff. Castle Rock store usually has it. Stay away from the HF garbage. It breaks down to dust really fast.
 
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Sorry to bring up a sore subject Matt.:lol: I just noticed the new spare and was curious.



As for the glass it has the number 70 marked on the bag. I haven't done much research. It's just what I've been using since day one and have been very pleased with the results so I've kept using it. Plus it is inexpensive, $19.95 for a 50 pound bag and I put half the bag in at a time.


I’m so new to it and I know so little. I need to learn what the numbers mean. I know they have something to do with the particulate size...but glass, sand, etc? Guess if it works, it works. I noticed the stuff were using is slowly turning from green to a brownish dust which gets trapped by the dust collector.

Change the pickup for your media to be on the bottom exterior of the sump if you can, not the interior. I can blast at 40psi with mine and only 4 cups of media. It's hard to tell what kind of sump that cabinet has.


Yeah, that makes sense. I’ve noticed that a few youtubers have moved to an external pot style that feeds into the cabinet for that reason (low sump). I hadn’t considered just moving the sump to the bottom of this one. Would be fairly easy, just need to fab something. I’ll give it a shot.

The gun can make a huge difference as well as does having a foot switch to open and close the air supply vs a gun with a trigger.

I don’t like the gun at all. I find myself only running about half trigger without knowing it. I’ll have to see if I can find a replacement pedal style. Great idea.

I don’t like the gun at all. I find myself only running about half trigger without knowing it. I’ll have to see if I can find a replacement pedal style. Great idea.

What are you guys using for glass? This thing has stickers that you replace which covers the thin lexAn to get a clean view. It’s dumb. Need something better. We dont have more than a few hours on the machine and we can’t see **** already.

Thanks.





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Working now on the finishing touches of the JK build. Now that I can powder coat, I decided to give color matched bolts a try for the sliders. Here’s what the Black Oxide Stainless bolts I used look like. They are “black” but not always do they really look black out of the box. Sometimes they look like a very dark brown.

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What I want is bolts that match and blend into the sliders. Thus far I had only blasted and coated a single flare head bolt and I knew doing one at a time in the sand blaster would take literally forever so I decided to make a fixture.

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I used a piece of 1” 6061 rod I had left over from a previous project and drilled and tapped holes 1 1/4” apart which yielded 10 per 12” piece.

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Now I could screw 10 bolts into it and then take the whole fixture into the blast cabinet. It worked really well. With the heads of 10 blasted, I now needed to figure out how to get them in the oven. I started down the path of individually wrapping them in heat resistant tape...quickly found out how dumb that idea was.

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I had some high temp caps that I figured I could try. They’d work but would need the be individually hung or I’d need some way to chain them together using welding wire or something. Still had to be a better way.

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I was roaming around on the internet looking for ideas when I saw a YouTube video where a guy used a fixture that he threaded the bolts into and then sprayed and cooked the in the fixture...uh, I already have a fixture, not sure why I did t think of that. The fixture I had made was too long to hang in thenoven so I cut it in half. I drilled a hole so that the fixture cold be hung by a wire and used a smaller 1/4-20 bolt from the rear as a set screw to hold onto the hanging wire.

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With 4 fixtures loaded, I coated them and then got them into the oven. The powder I applied is the same powder that was used to coat the sliders from cardinal.

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Here’s the finished product.

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I was fairly excited to get them installed in the Jeep. I pulled one so you could see the difference. The black oxide stainless bolt is in the left.

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And the installed difference. This time the black oxide is on the right.

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So much better. The jigs worked really well and now I can load the black oxide bolts into it that I just removed from the Jeep. Inspecting the jig, after one bake session there’s absolutely no buildup around the tapped hole so new bolts thread in easily.

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Once loaded...back to the blast cabinet for round 2. I think I’ll make a few more so I can do more in a batch and I’ll have to make fixtures in a few more sizes next week. I have so many more to do...

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