jbrentd
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Are those beams going in for a mezzanine?
Above 1200 Sq/FT Finally build my, long needed, shop
- Thread starter Michael B.
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
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Michael B.
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Yes sir!
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Michael B.
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I had planned on hanging joists this weekend. But when I arrived at HD Saturday morning the price had changed by $5.00 a board since Wednesday. So I have to wait for the lumber yards to open on Monday. This afternoon I prepared to hang joists.
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Michael B.
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I made it to the lumber yard today. Let’s get this party started!!
Toolfool
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Crowns up.
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Michael B.
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Indeed sir!
Toolfool
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Somebody says it on EVERY frame I've been involved with using dimensional lumber joists. 
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Michael B.
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Well if I’m going to get that from anybody, I would prefer it to be from you. Someone I trust, appreciate and respect!Somebody says it on EVERY frame I've been involved with using dimensional lumber joists.
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Michael B.
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10 down, errr up, and 20 to go!
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Michael B.
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Today I finished hanging the joists over the room. That’s a total of 15 or about half. Then I built the triple 2”x12”x19’9” beam. That things is going to be a beast to install! It weighs approximately 500lbs. After building the beam I cut and installed the two 6x6 posts the beam will sit on.
Oh, it appears the beam has passed inspection
Oh, it appears the beam has passed inspection
Toolfool
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don't hurt yourself. I can be there in about 7 hours. 
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Michael B.
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I appreciate that John! I think me and the engine hoist can handle it. It worked well with the smaller beam.don't hurt yourself. I can be there in about 7 hours.
Toolfool
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Be careful.
captain14
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Make sure someone checks on you while you’re installing the beam. It doesn’t take much of a … to cause a bad day.
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Michael B.
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Mission accomplished!
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Michael B.
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That pile of wood sitting under the new beam is in the way. So I’m moving it one more time
Toolfool
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More character ! I'm starting to feel inferior.
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Michael B.
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No need for you to feel that way. You’ve got Shorty. I don’t think you could use anymore character!
Chrisb62
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Maybe some different character........No need for you to feel that way. You’ve got Shorty. I don’t think you could use anymore character!
I used a drywall lift to set a 12 ft header one time, talk about fun! Nice building by the way.Mission accomplished!
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Michael B.
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Thanks! The drywall lift was my fallback position.
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Michael B.
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After traveling a couple of days this week I took today off. I made some progress in the shop. Tomorrow 
and I will be out celebrating our 30th anniversary. So no play time in the shop.
I finished this wall to the 8’mark and then started hanging more joists.
and I will be out celebrating our 30th anniversary. So no play time in the shop. I finished this wall to the 8’mark and then started hanging more joists.
Chrisb62
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Happy Anniversary......... 30 years...good for you two.
Toolfool
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Happy Anniversary. We hit 35 in October.
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Michael B.
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Thanks Chris and John.
jollygreengiant
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The shop is looking really good! I really like that accent (?) wall.
I'm curious, what species is your dimensional lumber down there? Up here it's mainly spruce and has nowhere near the woodgrain to it that yours does.
I'm curious, what species is your dimensional lumber down there? Up here it's mainly spruce and has nowhere near the woodgrain to it that yours does.
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Michael B.
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Thanks JG! The predominant species is pine. The 2x10’s were almost too nice for structural use. But the joists will be visible from below on half of the mezzanine.
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Michael B.
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The joists are all in! Now I get to build the stairs. I have seen it done a few times but I have never been the T square jockey. I have been watching some videos on the subject. Some are more helpful than others. I need to make some measurements and do the calculations. I would like to have a landing at the top of the stairs but with just over 9’ of run I don’t think it will be feasible. 
Toolfool
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The joists are all in! Now I get to build the stairs. I have seen it done a few times but I have never been the T square jockey. I have been watching some videos on the subject. Some are more helpful than others. I need to make some measurements and do the calculations. I would like to have a landing at the top of the stairs but with just over 9’ of run I don’t think it will be feasible.
It's not too difficult. My first time, I messed up. Second try the lightbulb came on and the whole concept became clear. Learned more when I got to work with seasoned framers. And a pair of framing square knuckles helps a lot. Do a practice run with a piece of 1x. I'm betting you're more than capable.
It's not too difficult. My first time, I messed up. Second try the lightbulb came on and the whole concept became clear. Learned more when I got to work with seasoned framers. And a pair of framing square knuckles helps a lot. Do a practice run with a piece of 1x. I'm betting you're more than capable.
Jeff Ivers
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Have you got a large framing square and a set of brass "stair buttons"? Makes setting up the runners quite easy. Assuming you go with a 10" tread depth and about 7" for riser height, a 9' run will not likely be enough without creating a landing part way up the stairs.
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Michael B.
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Thanks for the encouragement John! After talking with a good friend of mine, who is much better versed in construction than I am, he thinks my stairs will come out from under the mezzanine by about 2’. I’m not too keen on that idea. I think it will be a trip hazard for me. He has suggested a stair case against the back wall leading up to the face of the mezzanine, going over my sink and hot water heater. I am thinking this over.
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Michael B.
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I finally remembered to get some pictures of last weekend’s progress. It’s been a long week already and it’s only Tuesday 
I found a door at my local Restore. It needs a little paint but it will be fine. The room is completely walled in from the outside now.
I found a door at my local Restore. It needs a little paint but it will be fine. The room is completely walled in from the outside now.
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Michael B.
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So at 3:00 am it occurred to me that I can’t place the stairs along the back wall. There is only 17” between the truss and the top of that beam.
My thoughts now are to use the original place in the middle of the mezzanine and build a landing at the top and a landing at the bottom and turn the stairs right to keep everything under the deck.
In case it’s not obvious in the above picture, the stairs will come down the left wall with a landing inside of the 6x6 post. Then the stairs would turn to the right and land on the floor under the mezzanine.
My thoughts now are to use the original place in the middle of the mezzanine and build a landing at the top and a landing at the bottom and turn the stairs right to keep everything under the deck.
In case it’s not obvious in the above picture, the stairs will come down the left wall with a landing inside of the 6x6 post. Then the stairs would turn to the right and land on the floor under the mezzanine.
Toolfool
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A pull-down staircase won't work for you ? Re-frame a section of the deck ? I 've installed a couple of nice metal ones in the past.So at 3:00 am it occurred to me that I can’t place the stairs along the back wall. There is only 17” between the truss and the top of that beam.
My thoughts now are to use the original place in the middle of the mezzanine and build a landing at the top and a landing at the bottom and turn the stairs right to keep everything under the deck.
In case it’s not obvious in the above picture, the stairs will come down the left wall with a landing inside of the 6x6 post. Then the stairs would turn to the right and land on the floor under the mezzanine.
Or, build a complete staircase, maybe a little steeper than normal, hinge or pivots at the top, pulley and counterweight to operate it ? It could drop straight down along that left wall, hinged on the outside beam.
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luvtheheat
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"Crowns up" ... ?
Can someone translate this into something meaningful/helpful?
Thanks
Can someone translate this into something meaningful/helpful?
Thanks
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Michael B.
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A pull-down staircase won't work for you ? Re-frame a section of the deck ? I 've installed a couple of nice metal ones in the past.
John I would have very steep stairs with no landing and it would cut the mezzanine in half if I ran it with the current joist layout.
John I would have very steep stairs with no landing and it would cut the mezzanine in half if I ran it with the current joist layout.
Toolfool
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Offering suggestions. Turns and landings take up a LOT of space.
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Michael B.
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Michael B.
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The inspector finally got around to inspecting the framing for the mezzanine. I don’t know how she got up there. But I had to get her down
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Michael B.
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After vacuuming leaves today I had a few hours of shop time. I cut a 4” hole in the back wall to install a vent for the sand blast cabinet. Then I hung some more tin. One more 12” wide piece of tin and all of the downstairs walls will be covered in the shop area.
