Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT Grumblebums Corner

[xtremek]

I really need to have you come over to my place for about a month and get your help getting my place dialed in. Your place is incredible.

 

[rmalkow2]

Super organized and will make it so convenient to find the right tool when you are working on a project.

 

[Bob Heine]

Rod, that looks fantastic. Adjust a few inches here and a few inches there and you have a work space that makes me smile! Well done!

 

[taumac]

Well done sir..... well done. Now all about this paint thing... LOL

 

[Grumblebum]

That's real neat, well done GB

Thanks 1/2 Cup, it's already made less clutter by not having drills on the benches or just popped in the big cupboard.

GB, that is one nice storage center you have there. It really looks professional .

Thanks CB, I know it's only melamine particle board, but it's easy to work with, relatively cheap and easy to wipe down.

Looks great GB.

Thanks Aaron, good to see you about again.

I really need to have you come over to my place for about a month and get your help getting my place dialed in. Your place is incredible.

xtremek I've never been a bucket list person, but that is something I would do gladly one day if the stars ever aligned (not that you really need my help). However you still win, you have a mill

Super organized and will make it so convenient to find the right tool when you are working on a project.

Cheers RM, slow progress but hopefully soon I won't be losing time looking for things any more - even labels help that now that I have a few more printed.

Rod, that looks fantastic. Adjust a few inches here and a few inches there and you have a work space that makes me smile! Well done!

Thanks Bob, much appreciated, I think that bench area is now as done as it's going to be for a while apart from some cosmetic edge banding on some of the exposed faces.

Well done sir..... well done. Now all about this paint thing... LOL

Thanks G, I've kinda covered most of where the non-painted bits were, that won't take long to touch up and we can drink beer

All, your comments are greatly appreciated.

My Dad gave me an old Black & Decker 14.4 battery drill/torch combo that has done it's share of work for my son to use, he thought the old batteries were just dead which they are, one is dead the other won't get much over 12volts into it. Anyway found a pair of batteries on ebay for not too much which arrived today, ****** the drill still didn't work but the torch is fine.

Figured maybe a broken wire or something on the drill and sure enough it was so.

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Soldered it back on (the roll of solder in the pic is **** I need some better quality stuff) and we are in business.

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They are all cleaned up and ready for a certain 6 year old to get his hands on. His birthday coming up not too far away, guess he'll be getting his first set of drill bits

 

[xtremek]

It's a;ways cool when you can pass along tools.

 

[Grumblebum]

It's a;ways cool when you can pass along tools.

My son was very happy to get them too Kirk, he called his grandfather to say thankyou.

Metalwork QST today. This was not a planned project but had to start on a new driveway gate.

Steel this time, not going through the expense and waiting of getting an aluminium one made again.

Spent some time getting the cut off saw setup to do 45 degree cuts. Really would have been nice to have had my cold cut mitre saw finished for this project.

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The cuts came out well and it's within 1mm of square

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Then had to get creative to be able to get the ground cable clamped on, it won't expand to fit the 50mm SHS.

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And where play finishes today. 20 sections of 20x20 tube to fit now, so that will be a tedious little session. Gate will be the same size and design as what I already had.

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Cheers GB

 

[1/2 Cup]

Nice work GB

I must admit it is hard to get the mitres right with a drop saw.

 

[Duker]

My son was very happy to get them too Kirk, he called his grandfather to say thankyou.



Metalwork QST today. This was not a planned project but had to start on a new driveway gate.



Steel this time, not going through the expense and waiting of getting an aluminium one made again.



Spent some time getting the cut off saw setup to do 45 degree cuts. Really would have been nice to have had my cold cut mitre saw finished for this project.



The cuts came out well and it's within 1mm of square



Then had to get creative to be able to get the ground cable clamped on, it won't expand to fit the 50mm SHS.



And where play finishes today. 20 sections of 20x20 tube to fit now, so that will be a tedious little session. Gate will be the same size and design as what I already had.


Cheers GB

Looking good GB! I don’t think my knees and back could handle that type of project anymore!



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[rmalkow2]

Looking good so far GB.

 

[xtremek]

Looking forward to seeing the finished gate.

 

[Grumblebum]

Nice work GB

I must admit it is hard to get the mitres right with a drop saw.

Thanks 1/2 cup, yes I've never been a fan of the abrasive wheel cut off saws. The bases are just too flimsy IMO to get nice cuts that you don't spend an age on afterwards truing up. Maybe it's just me

Even back doing a default 90 degree cut today for a short piece was a chore to get back into alignment. Really must crack on and get the makita cold cut saw restoration finished I kept thinking about yours today.

Looking good GB! I don’t think my knees and back could handle that type of project anymore!

Thanks Duker, hope you are getting some QST of your own. Yes my back was not happy after yesterday's work on the ground. I was able to setup and work from the aluminium tressels today so at least at standing height it was much better.

Only tacked in a small piece today and prepped the 20 verticals ready to go in along with getting the spacing measurements sorted.

Going to see if I can get a day away from the office during the week to finish welding up.

Looking good so far GB.

Thanks RM. It just gets harder and more awkward to handle the more metal you stick to it I've estimated it should be approx 55kgs (121lbs) when finished.

Looking forward to seeing the finished gate.

Thanks xtremek, so am I

If I can get it hung by next weekend I'll be happy. It will just need paint then, which means a possible spray gun purchase


Just to keep jumping around a bit I have been doing some final touches on the garage door insulation that I first installed at the end of 2016. It's been working well doing it's insulation job, but on the section where I hadn't added the brace those bits kept falling out after a while when opened, and the edges on the other sections look tatty just flapping about.

Picked up some bracing finally a week or two back at the big box store, so that prompted me to tape all the edges and seams off with some reinforced foil insulation tape. It works well and I finished that off this evening.

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Hopefully I can get the bracing added tomorrow night and call it done. That will be parts for 1 less project cluttering up the garage lol.

Cheers GB

 

[oldironfarmer]

Good miters are not as critical with steel as opposed to wood - a little gap before welding is actually preferable.

Good work!

Do you suffer from low lead solder like we do?

 

[rmalkow2]

You mentioned getting a spry gun and I'm in process of gathering the air supply pieces to spray with an HVLP spray gun as well to with from rattle cans for the bigger jobs. If you read and watch some videos on the subject of mixing and spraying Rustoleum paints you find (to my surprise) a pretty extensive group of folks successfully doing this. I hear even Rustoleum has some info doing this themselves.
Rattle cans will always be useful for the smaller size jobs but I'm leaning towards the other method for painting larger panels.

 

[xtremek]

The door looks awesome. Nice and tidy.

 

[Grumblebum]

Good miters are not as critical with steel as opposed to wood - a little gap before welding is actually preferable.

Good work!

Do you suffer from low lead solder like we do?

Thanks Andy, yes I concur with the little gap, my problem in this case is if I do a vertical cut on the saw it is not a clean 90 degree cut vertically on the piece so top to bottom is out and needs post cut intervention if that makes sense.

Not sure on the solder will need to look at that, just seemed like it was lacking in the flux component to get it to run. Might be the old missing lead in ones pencil dilemma.

There is an electrical engineering firm next to us at work, I might see if I can borrow a piece of solder from them to test. (they make soft starts for A/C units).

You mentioned getting a spry gun and I'm in process of gathering the air supply pieces to spray with an HVLP spray gun as well to with from rattle cans for the bigger jobs. If you read and watch some videos on the subject of mixing and spraying Rustoleum paints you find (to my surprise) a pretty extensive group of folks successfully doing this. I hear even Rustoleum has some info doing this themselves.
Rattle cans will always be useful for the smaller size jobs but I'm leaning towards the other method for painting larger panels.

Thanks RM, our rattle cans here are quite expensive starting at near $13 for a can of rustoleum. The hammered finished ones I normally use are near $20 a can now so gets expensive on larger projects pretty quick. I'll keep tabs on your spray gun purchase.

The door looks awesome. Nice and tidy.

Thanks xtremek, you probably won't have a 3 shirt day if it's cooler in the shop lol.

Well it's finally finished, I know it's another picture of a panel door but I added the extra brace on the second from bottom panel when I got home today and added the last couple of pieces of foil tape along the very bottom which I was able to do with the door open 1/2 way.

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Was thinking of making some brackets to hang the fishing rods on it now maybe up on one of the top panels above head height to get them out of the way as they don't really have a home.

Thanks for stopping by.

GB

 

[BoilermakerFan]

Nice work on the garage door and driveway gate GB!

 

[drivesitfar]

GB: great work on the steel stuff.

not sure this would work, but are you planning on putting your fishing rods on the garage door you insulated?

i'm wondering if you might get some PVC pipe big enough to hold your fishing rods with maybe caps on each end to hold them inside and mount the PVC to your door, ceiling or a beam?

carry on and always fun to see how you are getting more ORGANIZED!!

 

[Grumblebum]

Nice work on the garage door and driveway gate GB!

Thanks BM

GB: great work on the steel stuff.

not sure this would work, but are you planning on putting your fishing rods on the garage door you insulated?

i'm wondering if you might get some PVC pipe big enough to hold your fishing rods with maybe caps on each end to hold them inside and mount the PVC to your door, ceiling or a beam?

carry on and always fun to see how you are getting more ORGANIZED!!

Drives, yep that's exactly what I was planning. Have a few mounting ideas to try, but one is to use some offcuts of poly irrigation pipe and make some clips from that.

PS> Drives I've picked up some BLO to try on those clamps I cleaned up the other week. Also saw that there is indeed a spray can version but it didn't say boiled, I think it was just normal so I didn't get that.

All, I took a bit of "Daddy Time" today away from the office which basically gave me 6 hours while the kids were at school and wifie at her work. Just to get a bit done that is hard to do otherwise when the family is home.

Anyway as soon as I got back dropping the kids off it was straight in to the gate build.

I made up some templates for the correct spacing hoping all along that my mathematics worked out. 100.5 mm between vertical rails. It also centered the rails in the middle of the the larger top and bottom horizontal rails (close to centre anyway only had 16 mm melamine offcuts, nothing exactly 15mm)

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And here is how it clamped in place. Same at each end. I did have a large ratchet ******** for the first few posts to keep things in square, but didn't get a pic of that.

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Since you don't know if your measurements work until the end, I chose to work evenly from each end working towards the center. Idea being if there were a couple mm difference it would be even in the centre rather than having a weirdo gap on the end. As it turned out the middle gap was 98 mm, so within 2.5 mm which I'm happy with. Doubt anyone is going to pick that.

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Noticed that I was taking more and more material off the ends of the post before they would fit in. Turned out we had a bit of a bow in the 50mm section for what ever reason. Ran the straight edge on it and used a bottle jack to bring it back.

Just the joys of doing this in the driveway that slopes slightly for rainwater run off I guess

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And this is where I ended up before packing up. Was just about out of gas too at the end so grabbed a refill before getting the kids from school.

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Also nipped into the office to pickup this bad boy that arrived this morning, that is 3 days door to door from the UK to AU. Fantastic. Yet to try it out but that's a great start. "spraygunsdirect.co.uk"

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Cheers GB

 

[1/2 Cup]

GB your gate is coming along nicely.

I luv your spray gun. If it is not a rude question what is it worth?

 

[Grumblebum]

GB your gate is coming along nicely.

I luv your spray gun. If it is not a rude question what is it worth?

Thanks 1/2 Cup, landed in AU from the UK just over $500. Not cheap, but I have several projects for it so over time it should pay for it self if it is a decent unit.

That is with 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 fluid nozzles and the pressure regulator gauge so hopefully the kit covers all bases.

It's bit of a rabbit hole as we started chatting about over on Bob Heine's thread.

There is a review here: https://thegunman.net.au/devilbiss-gpi-review/

(he has lots of cool video's actually)

Cheers GB.

 

[1/2 Cup]

GB I really like the fact that it comes with multiple nozzles.

That's not a bad price over all

 

[xtremek]

What he said, the gate is looking good.

 

[drivesitfar]

GB: plain linseed oil just takes quite a bit longer to dry, but if you have 100+ degree weather and want to set it in the sun or if you have a little smoker dedicated to baking linseed oil on (don't cook stuff to eat out of it after using it with linseed oil is my thinking) you'll have a great finish. some guys prefer to use regular linseed oil and add beeswax, graphite and a few other things to make their own mix and i think it's posted a few times on the Vise Repair 101 thread in vintage tools or just PM me or ask in that thread and maybe another member has it copied and handy to post again if you are curious. I've never seen spray linseed oil, but then again i've never bought a new can of boiled or regular linseed oil cause i'm always picking up cans of leftovers at sales to store and use here.

even the boiled linseed oil takes a while to dry even in the sun so be a bit patient and you'll have a great looking usable tool.

good luck with the cool storage ideas you seem to come up with on your own cause even though i've seen some great clamp storage on garage man doors i've never seen storage on a roll up door. pics please if you end up finding a way to do it?

cheers

 

[cbacres]

GB, I'm pretty sure I have that same gun, I remeber reading up on it being out of the U.S.
I'm still working to get it dialed in. I have the larger tip on it due to the Rustoleum paint I'm spraying.

I'll be watching to see how it works for you.

 

[Grumblebum]

GB I really like the fact that it comes with multiple nozzles.

That's not a bad price over all

I think so 1/2 Cup, they get way too expensive after that IMO for what most of us here would need. Keen to try it out when I can, likely a week or two away at this stage.

What he said, the gate is looking good.

Thanks xtremek

GB: plain linseed oil just takes quite a bit longer to dry, but if you have 100+ degree weather and want to set it in the sun or if you have a little smoker dedicated to baking linseed oil on (don't cook stuff to eat out of it after using it with linseed oil is my thinking) you'll have a great finish. some guys prefer to use regular linseed oil and add beeswax, graphite and a few other things to make their own mix and i think it's posted a few times on the Vise Repair 101 thread in vintage tools or just PM me or ask in that thread and maybe another member has it copied and handy to post again if you are curious. I've never seen spray linseed oil, but then again i've never bought a new can of boiled or regular linseed oil cause i'm always picking up cans of leftovers at sales to store and use here.

even the boiled linseed oil takes a while to dry even in the sun so be a bit patient and you'll have a great looking usable tool.

good luck with the cool storage ideas you seem to come up with on your own cause even though i've seen some great clamp storage on garage man doors i've never seen storage on a roll up door. pics please if you end up finding a way to do it?

cheers

Drives, thanks for your input. The BLO I found has "added drying agents" according to the label. Hopefully a chance next weekend to try it.

GB, I'm pretty sure I have that same gun, I remeber reading up on it being out of the U.S.
I'm still working to get it dialed in. I have the larger tip on it due to the Rustoleum paint I'm spraying.

I'll be watching to see how it works for you.

Thanks CB, this one is made in the UK. I've got to get the paint source sorted yet.

All, been a busy weekend but home tonight I had to see if my idea for mounting fishing rod/poles on the garage door would work.

Basically cut some 2" lengths of poly irrigation pipe, then cut a slit out of it lengthways.

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Drilled some holes and fixed to the door framework with pop rivets.

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Clicked the rods in and it seemed to work

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At the tips for the smaller rods I used a velcro fastener around the back of the pipe before riviting on to hold them in.

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So now they are out of the way and not getting damaged being moved around the garage all the time

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Have to do a test with the door open yet, hopefully they stay secure.

Cheers GB

 

[rmalkow2]

Great idea GB. Simple and effective. Even if you have concern about the large end holding as snapped in you can always add that velcro loop there too.
Post this one over in the What's On Your Walls, organization thread.

 

[xtremek]

That's a great use of space.

 

[drivesitfar]

GB: way to think outside the box. I like the velcro holders too.

 

[Grumblebum]

Great idea GB. Simple and effective. Even if you have concern about the large end holding as snapped in you can always add that velcro loop there too.
Post this one over in the What's On Your Walls, organization thread.

Thanks RM, will do. I added one extra clip & velcro loop on the end of the beach rod as it's 12' long. Had the door open and closed a few times this weekend and so far they have not moved.

That's a great use of space.

Thanks xtremek, it's a great space to use but really only for very light weight items. The fishing poles have been driving me nuts for a while now so is good to have them out of the way.

GB: way to think outside the box. I like the velcro holders too.

Thanks drives, yeah the velcro was a last minute add on, whilst in the vertical position the tips of the rods are fine, but when moved horizontal they dip down so needed something to keep them within the clip at that end.

Pretty quiet weekend here. No welding as it's been raining. Had a few hours of sun yesterday between showers so managed to give the front grass it's first haircut of the season.

Picked up this old first aid kit box off my dads scrap pile last weekend. He'd had it for as long as I can remember, figured I could do something with it.

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Removed the rivets holding the handle and clasp on and have them soaking in vinegar. Knocked out the dents and got it back to pretty flat and straight and hit it a bit with the the scourer pad thingy on the die grinder to see what it would come up like. I remember it having a tray of sorts in it, you can see the unpainted area inside where it sat. Might make something up to go back in it.

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I think it should come up fine. When I get some sun time again i'll take it outside and apply some paint stripper and finish cleaning it up.

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At 4.25" wide x 9" long x 7" high, it's a handy size. Not sure what to put in it yet, figure some sort of tooling

Cheers GB

 

[shortykorte]

Great solution for the fishing rods.


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[oldironfarmer]

Great solution for the fishing rods.


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X2!

Reclaiming the First Aid box is a great thing too!

 

[jon72vega]

GB,
Great idea for fishing rod storage!

 

[BBChevro]

Hey GB, I just went back a few pages - your bench/storage unit is looking great.

Good score with the tools too - particularly the table saw, I've been keeping my eyes open for a decent (but cheap) one for quite a while.

Cheers

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[Coolabah]

Thanks 1/2 Cup, landed in AU from the UK just over $500. Not cheap, but I have several projects for it so over time it should pay for it self if it is a decent unit.

That is with 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 fluid nozzles and the pressure regulator gauge so hopefully the kit covers all bases.

It's bit of a rabbit hole as we started chatting about over on Bob Heine's thread.

There is a review here: https://thegunman.net.au/devilbiss-gpi-review/

(he has lots of cool video's actually)

Cheers GB.

Hi Rod,
thanks for the PM I ended up biting the bullet on this too as the reviews and the price were too good to pass up. Plus , if its no good I can tell my wife it's all your fault Very quick door to door that's for sure ! Won't have a lot of time to play with it for a month or so but had to get in before the skydiving $A reaches parity with the Brazilian Real LOL

You have been busy in the garage !! Looking good

 

[BBChevro]

... Plus , if its no good...

...you can always sell it to me (at a reasonable price drop of course [emoji4] ).




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[Coolabah]

...you can always sell it to me (at a reasonable price drop of course [emoji4] ).




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LOL , yes of course !

Spoiler alert....I gave the GPI a bit of a playing with today and I am in love- (sorry about that !) This is a really, really nice bit of kit .

 

[BBChevro]

Damn! ...
...Er, I mean...

...That's great news Coolabah.


Seriously, congrats to both you and to GB for your purchases - the gun looked pretty impressive in the video.

One day I might look into buying a new gun, I've been using a $100 "Star" (a very blatant Chinese copy of an Iwata) for the past few decades - I'll have to start saving up.


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[Grumblebum]

Great solution for the fishing rods.

Thanks Shorty, they are still stuck in position and haven't moved after several openings, so I'm happy.

X2!

Reclaiming the First Aid box is a great thing too!

Thanks Andy, I've got to look at what tool decals I have to stick on it once done, still undecided on contents - perhaps will make for a nice jigsaw case with a Makita decal need to see if it fits.

GB,
Great idea for fishing rod storage!

Thanks Jon, no more moving rods around to get to things now.

Hey GB, I just went back a few pages - your bench/storage unit is looking great.

Good score with the tools too - particularly the table saw, I've been keeping my eyes open for a decent (but cheap) one for quite a while.

Cheers

BB they all need some TLC before going into use those tools, but we will get there eventually. I need to help my dad reconfigure his garage so we'll see what fits where.

Hi Rod,
thanks for the PM I ended up biting the bullet on this too as the reviews and the price were too good to pass up. Plus , if its no good I can tell my wife it's all your fault Very quick door to door that's for sure ! Won't have a lot of time to play with it for a month or so but had to get in before the skydiving $A reaches parity with the Brazilian Real LOL

You have been busy in the garage !! Looking good

Cool coolabah, did you get the extra tips as well ?

Don't worry about your wife, I'll blame you right back when you work out if the ANI R150-T Mini gun is needed

I probably should have got a mini gun first (or with) for most of what I need to paint, but didn't know that until after post-purchase

...you can always sell it to me (at a reasonable price drop of course [emoji4] ).

LOL , yes of course !

Spoiler alert....I gave the GPI a bit of a playing with today and I am in love- (sorry about that !) This is a really, really nice bit of kit .

Feel free to post some pics. Where did your thread go ?

Can you dial the fan down for smaller areas ok ?

Damn! ...
...Er, I mean...

...That's great news Coolabah.

Seriously, congrats to both you and to GB for your purchases - the gun looked pretty impressive in the video.

One day I might look into buying a new gun, I've been using a $100 "Star" (a very blatant Chinese copy of an Iwata) for the past few decades - I'll have to start saving up.

The Iwatas are exensive too. I think Bob H has one that he picked up second hand.

Just snuck in to update during a cuppa break. We have rain forecast here through until into next week. Was hoping to have this weekend to finish welding up and test hanging the new gate so I can get on to paint.

Cheers GB.

 

[Coolabah]

Cool coolabah, did you get the extra tips as well ?

Don't worry about your wife, I'll blame you right back when you work out if the ANI R150-T Mini gun is needed

I probably should have got a mini gun first (or with) for most of what I need to paint, but didn't know that until after post-purchase




Feel free to post some pics. Where did your thread go ?

Can you dial the fan down for smaller areas ok ?


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Cheers GB.

Ahh...I have yet to start a garage gallery thread. In the meantime , I am The Scarlet Pimpernel of GJ - I post away hijacking left right and centre on everyone elses threads (oops !!) so I wager you are not alone in wondering where my thread has gone ... .... it is everywhere you look ... I honestly think I need to change that and start my own garage thread...
Yes, like yourself bought the extra tips as it would be stupidly more expensive to buy them later as not part of the package... even though I am not sure I need anything other than the 1.4 nozzle at this point. Thanks again for letting me ride on your shirt-tails on this purchase after you did all the hard yards !!
So far I have filled the gun with thinners and played around with all sorts of settings, checking spray pattern and learning how the usual adjustments play with this gun...and yes ( fully stoked !) I get similar/same results to the u-tube guy . I do have an old no-name gun that I have been using for the small stuff but have got to that point in my life where I am tired of spending 90% extra time to get 10% results with cheap tools... hence my jumping on this gun as a first step, and like yourself am also looking to a smaller gun to bridge the gap with my Iwata airbrush (but obviously need to wait for the tool budget to recharge !) .