Hammer time!

[Outlawmws]

Nice little upholstery hammer Jeff; I like the tack claw on the back, most don't have that style puller.

Kiraj, is the short handle a work on progress? It doesn't look like it's fully engaged.

 

[RivennHewn]

I need help with these hammer thanks for the help.

There was a Conover at Hibbard Spencer and Bartlett, who was in charge of the Rev o noc line of tools and hardware and guns. (Conover spelt backwards is Revonoc)

May be a HSB hammer made by Stanley or Sargent.

 

[Blake150]

Here are my bodyhammers I use on a daily basis

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[Outlawmws]

A couple of additions:

The smith's hammer head weighs 38 oz. ans is a GrayBar. oddly it has two flat faces, usually these have one flat and one rounded, but not nearly as rounded as a BP.

The Body hammer Is sort of cool; It's been severely modified on the spike. which was brazed in place, and smoothed so well I didn't realize it was braze until I started wire wheeling the rust and crud off, only to see the glint of gold.

I suspect the donor was Plvmb, Proto, or Snap-on, but any markings are gone. The add on does have some remnant lettering from two words. I suspect the spike was made from something like a chisel?

"ILEY-ATH"

Bailey-Athol?

No markings on the Heel Dolly.

 

[GINIK]

A couple of additions:

The smith's hammer head weighs 38 oz. ans is a GrayBar. oddly it has two flat faces, usually these have one flat and one rounded, but not nearly as rounded as a BP.

The hammer with the two flat faces is a horse shoe turning hammer.

 

[Nick Danger]

Can someone identify this hammer? It came from the grandfather of a friend. She's been calling it a glazing hammer and using it to assemble beehive frames.

It's a beautiful featherweight thing. I thought it worked great when I used on the beehive frames.

 

[GINIK]

Can someone identify this hammer? It came from the grandfather of a friend. She's been calling it a glazing hammer and using it to assemble beehive frames.

It's a beautiful featherweight thing. I thought it worked great when I used on the beehive frames.

My guess is tinners riveting/ setting hammer.
They were often used by glaziers.

 

[Outlawmws]

Small metal workers hammer; larger are used by sheet metal workers and above, small with skinny handels like that one more like silversmiths and watchmakers/jewelers...

The sharper end on that one was probably ground flat for starting brads.

 

[hippie2cams]

I am learning too damn much on this forum. I am going to have to take tomorrow off and have some adult refreshments and kill some brains cells to revert to my former self. Thanks Guys now my head is full of hammer knowledge and I can't beat it out, no hammers in the house.

 

[Nick Danger]

My guess is tinners riveting/ setting hammer.
They were often used by glaziers.

Small metal workers hammer; larger are used by sheet metal workers and above, small with skinny handels like that one more like silversmiths and watchmakers/jewelers...

The sharper end on that one was probably ground flat for starting brads.

Thanks for your help!

 

[dgxlh]

I totally want a 48oz BP now.

 

[Outlawmws]

I totally want a 48oz BP now.

Hooked another one!

So back to bending horse shoes:

This is what I was talking about: the Grayabr has both faces flat: the other two don't. Is the Graybar for some specific use or just a preference on the part of the smith?

 

[jeffmoss26]

Graybar is a large electrical distributor that has been around forever. Perhaps they had private labeled tools many moons ago.

 

[ecotec]

The other two look like lineman hammers. Maybe it was ground down to be a weird version of one.

 

[jeffmoss26]

I believe Klein makes them also.

 

[ecotec]

Jeff, I think the Klein hammers are rebranded Vaughan.

 

[d.mcfarland]

Proto Professional 1332. Any way this is the original handle? It looks like it fits very nicely (could have just been a good rehandle) but I'm thinking the original should have been hex handle with green grip area? I'm starting to think the way the heads were marked has a connection to the way the handles were. This sideways stamping might not have ever had a hex shaped handle.

 

[Outlawmws]

Proto Pro came way later in the game and I know Proto was using hex handles before the Pro marketing...

 

[GINIK]

A double headed hammer with one face flat and the other slightly domed is a rounding hammer (also called a turning hammer). If both faces are the same it is a linesman/engineers hammer (for electrical and utility work). Both Estwing and Vaughan still make a linesman hammer.

Estwing:
http://www.estwing.com/s_linemans_hammer.php


Vaughan:
http://www.vaughanmfg.com/shopping/Products/36-OZ-Supersteel-Linemans-Hammer__L36.aspx

I checked Vaughans catalog nr 207 page 23.
" LINEMAN'S (FARRIER'S TURNING) HAMMER".
Seems to be the same hammer for both jobs.

 

[ecotec]

I actually know a farrier. She is a friend of my wife. She is a guitarist, a ambassador for Gretch (she was even in the catalogue in 2012), and a farrier. She is an interesting lady.

 

[kiraj]

 

[Outlawmws]

OK, here is an interesting mallet that came my way at an estate sale yesterday:

It looks like a miniature circus stake wooden sledge... Short handle, big heavy head, made heavier as the faces are bound in iron bands, and the handle Screws on!

I don't think this was hand made; I think a factory made it. The wood screw threads and perfect tapers would take some tooling to get perfect, and they do fit perfect.

Not sure if both faces came like this and through use lost the other side, or if this was added. It looks like bondo, feels like a crude plastic...

I suspect this thing was made for use with calking irons, and/or wood chisels.

 

[Surreal001]

Premier, what is the 2nd hammer from the right, with the pointed end on one side and a flat end on the other?

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[outdoorsman310]

don't know anything about these hammers besides that a couple look old. I think they are neat. I have to make a handle for one of them. the hole is round

 

[Outlawmws]

Outdoors man the plated head is a roofers hatchet for working with cedar shingles and shake. I can't say what the square one is for, not enough detail.

 

[drivesitfar]

Outlaw: Could your hammer maybe be what a person cutting cedar shakes with a froe would use? my grand dad had a huge tree limb on the handle of his to hit the froe with, but maybe yours was modified with the metal to keep it from splitting.

nice looking hammer and plenty old looking so nice find no matter what use you intend to use it for.

 

[Outlawmws]

Outlaw: Could your hammer maybe be what a person cutting cedar shakes with a froe would use? my grand dad had a huge tree limb on the handle of his to hit the froe with, but maybe yours was modified with the metal to keep it from splitting.

nice looking hammer and plenty old looking so nice find no matter what use you intend to use it for.

I don't think so Dif, as the iron band sticks out past the edge of the wood so you would have metal hitting the metal. I'm also leaning to both faces may have had an insert, and the rings, being tapered, also retained the insert. But really have no solid info.

 

[drivesitfar]

I saw your metal was sticking out beyond the wood, but you know how those old guys didn't mind beating their metal on metal if it fixed their tool. i'll keep watching to see and hear if somebody else has a better answer.

how many chisels or metal wedges have you see with the metal curled over? those froes could have probably been hit with steel hammers if the froe with the wood head wasn't handy.

 

[outdoorsman310]

Here are some better pics. The claw hammer looks pretty old. I don't know the intended use of the square one.

 

[Outlawmws]

I saw your metal was sticking out beyond the wood, but you know how those old guys didn't mind beating their metal on metal if it fixed their tool. i'll keep watching to see and hear if somebody else has a better answer.

how many chisels or metal wedges have you see with the metal curled over? those froes could have probably been hit with steel hammers if the froe with the wood head wasn't handy.

I'm sure some were, I've seen them beat to death, but hitting an edge with the edges of that ring, vs. a steel face with a steel head hammer would quickly destroy the mallet.

 

[outdoorsman310]

do you think they could put a soft metal insert in that mallet?

 

[Outlawmws]

Anything is possible. I was surprised to the the plasticy stuff in there.

 

[WallynSC]

Here are some better pics. The claw hammer looks pretty old. I don't know the intended use of the square one.

Are those threads showing in pic 3?

 

[outdoorsman310]

Are those threads showing in pic 3?

no sir

 

[WallynSC]

Do ball pein hammers actually weigh the amount they are stamped? Example, a 16 oz hammer, does the head weigh 16 ozs., with or without handle or is it just a ball park weight?

 

[WallynSC]

I was fitting a handle to a Craftsman head, and thought about weighing it, came out to 22.5 Oz.

 

[Outlawmws]

That is the nominal weight of the head without the handle, + or -; its not totally precise.

 

[Outlawmws]

I was fitting a handle to a Craftsman head, and thought about weighing it, came out to 22.5 Oz.

With the handle?

 

[WallynSC]

Just the head, without the handle. I couldn't figure out a common Oz. weight that would fit, just curious. Thanks for helping.

 

[GINIK]

Do ball pein hammers actually weigh the amount they are stamped? Example, a 16 oz hammer, does the head weigh 16 ozs., with or without handle or is it just a ball park weight?

Outlaw is correct.
It's just the weight of the head.
Applies both for hammer and axe heads (for an A-class manufacturer).
In the old times they were sometimes selling heads without handles.