Hein Werner OS

[Uncle Buck]

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I have gotten those out with 1/2" drive drag link sockets of the appropriate size myself.

 

[gpstraub]

Gentlemen,

I love this sh!t. Elory, these writeups are some of the most fantastic things going on Garage Journal. I absolutely love the rehab on a dedicated old piece of equipment. It's like a soldier put back into action....

Peter

 

[Elroy]

The one side plate has a nice bend [in] it. That will go into the press this coming week. This little jack sure has seen some service over the years.

Well this looks a little better.

First problem solved. Many more to go.

 

[Elroy]

A little Friday night progress report.

Got the side plate out of the machine shop earlier this week and it turned out nice and straight as shown above.

Got the lawn mowed and pulled out the sand blaster. Proceeded to attack the main lift arm casting. It cleaned up quick:

And here a few detail shots of some numbers stamped in the casting:

 

[Elroy]

But we discovered a little problem. Will the fun never end

Yep, we have a crack.

So the question is what to do ??

What would you do ??

Please realize this part is long ago obsolete, next to impossible to obtain, and "riveted" into the assembly. Not the easiest of fixes.

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

Nice!!

Looking forward to more posts...

By the way, What type of blast cabinet do you have (What kind of medium did you use) and what is the CFM of your Compressor?

-BWP

 

[Hiball]

But we discovered a little problem. Will the fun never end


Yep, we have a crack.

So the question is what to do ??

What would you do ??

Please realize this part is long ago obsolete, next to impossible to obtain, and "riveted" into the assembly. Not the easiest of fixes.

Wouldnt even mess with it elroy, yes it will prolly always bother you but it will in no way affect the usability.

 

[Elroy]

Fortunately this crack is going to be in compression. I don't see a big problem either just leaving it be. Yep, it's staying put!

It just goes to show how much work this little jack has done over the last 61* years !

 

[Uncle Buck]

If it bothers you, you could always just make another and replace it. Unless I am wrong it looks like a few holes on the drill press, and a couple of beads of weld at the base of those two little posts. Then again I suspect I would just use it the way it is as Hiball suggested.

 

[Elroy]

looks like a few holes on the drill press, and a couple of beads of weld at the base of those two little posts.

The original part is much more complicated than that. It actually has two "journals". One turned on each end of the block that are counter-bored and chamfered to form a crude semi-tubular rivet. These "journals" are then inserted into a pair of linkages and upset to form a riveted pin per se.

It would be a ***** to duplicate but it could be done.

Elroy is going to say the hell with it and just let the paint "weld" it back together. You'll never see it and like I said, the crack is in compression so it "shouldn't" grow any more.

 

[trackwelder]

I have lots of eutectic nickel rod sample packs. I will gladly send Elroy some if he changes his mind about repair those cracks.

 

[Elroy]

Nice!!

Looking forward to more posts...

By the way, What type of blast cabinet do you have (What kind of medium did you use) and what is the CFM of your Compressor?

-BWP

No cabinet. For the limited stuff Elroy gets involved with a Speed Blaster is all that's required

And here is the "pusher". As TS4L5 two stage IR that works just fine thank you

As far as media is concerned, we use nothing more than "play sand". We blast out doors and 50 pounds in the grass just disappears.

The results are fully acceptable for Elroy. Which one would you rather paint?

 

[Elroy]

The total disassembly of the Hein-Werner O'Boy continues. Here is a shot of the axle pin from the rear caster. How many trips across the shop floor does it take to wear a pin this bad ?

Notice how the caster bearings have worn a groove in the yoke on just one side.

Now this shots is "after the fact" but depicts the trouble encountered removing the cylinder tube. This damn thing was in there TIGHT and Elroy was concerned with putting a flat in the tube. To support the tube we found this Craftsman socket that fit the tube nice and tight.

You can see where Elroy polished out the teeth marks

Talking about tight:

This is the plug that seals the plunger bore. Notice the saw marks. Seams that at one point in time this cylinder was serviced and this is the plug that was installed. After getting it tight, the drive head was cut off with a hack saw.

Elroy contacted over a dozen Hein-Werner service companies before he was able to locate a replacement. This plug is staying put until the replacement delivers.

 

[-B-]

B is just about ready to tackle his jack.

B is absolutely shocked at Elroy's use of roofing/ happy harry the home owner QR air fitting.

 

[Elroy]

B is absolutely shocked at Elroy's use of roofing

Are you commenting on the Line-X spray-in bed liner or what??

happy harry the home owner QR air fitting.

Simply a 1/4" body industrial interchange. Works fine. No issues.

Call me happy. Don't call me Harry as I'm Elroy.

 

[Junkman]

Originally Posted by hholmberg
BTW: I also met Elroy years ago, I was not at all impressed with him, the guy was like a talking potted plant!

I'll take a talking potted plant any day over the stuffed shirt elitists that frequent these forums with an attitude of mine is better than yours...

 

[tatra]

haven't noticed this stuffed shirt attitude...........just differing opinions on quality..............

 

[billymade]

Ask Elroy about that speed blaster gun; that thing works awesome! It seems to work well; would he recommend it, tell us the details!? Turns out the OEM is Zendex; looks like a great tool....
http://www.zendextool.com/speedblaster/

 

[Elroy]

Ask Elroy about that speed blaster gun; that thing works awesome! It seems to work well; would he recommend it, tell us the details!? Turns out the OEM is Zendex; looks like a great tool....
http://www.zendextool.com/speedblaster/

Tell ya what Bill, standing on its own merits, I've made more money with that Speedblaster than any thing else I own.

Its works great on small jobs. For larger stuff it takes a while and it does make a mess. Out doors operation is a must.

On this jack for example, I shot right at a 100 pounds of sand at it. On larger stuff I'll blast in the driveway, sweep up the sand then screen it for leaves and grass clipping and reuse it. When it's working right, this thing will actually pulsate.

The largest parts I've done would be a set of side pipe headers and a lawn chair. I did the headers in the peak of the summer a few years ago and after about a hour I started to get water into the line. That slowed the process down real fast. It's a must to have dry air and sand!

Would I recommend one, Lets put it like this, this is the second Speedblaster I've owned. Flat wore out the first one.

Oh ya, Repair parts are available and we have procured a few key parts as spares.

Yep. Elroy recommends it. Especially for small jobs.

It would be pressed to something big like a fender or running board. On a steel wheel it works great. Just make sure you have dry air and lots of it.

 

[joeswamp]

As far as media is concerned, we use nothing more than "play sand". We blast out doors and 50 pounds in the grass just disappears.

Clearly you're getting fantastic results and I'm enjoying reading your thread, but I've read that sandblasting with play-sand is extremely unhealthy. Problem is the silica shatters into tiny sharp fragments that get into your lungs and stay there forever (you just keep accumulating more over time) and after years of them staying there you develop all kinds of scary tumors and stuff. People die from this.

Do a search for silicosis and make sure you're aware of the risks. Real blasting media is supposed to be free of silica dust and therefore much safer.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Clearly you're getting fantastic results and I'm enjoying reading your thread, but I've read that sandblasting with play-sand is extremely unhealthy. Problem is the silica shatters into tiny sharp fragments that get into your lungs and stay there forever (you just keep accumulating more over time) and after years of them staying there you develop all kinds of scary tumors and stuff. People die from this.

Do a search for silicosis and make sure you're aware of the risks. Real blasting media is supposed to be free of silica dust and therefore much safer.

That is true, it is a fact. You are supposed to use either supplied air or the correct cartidge type respirator for the media in use. However, I doubt Elroy would undertake any of his jobs in an unsafe manner, he is far to savvy a customer than that.

 

[Elroy]

Well it's the end of another week end and while we're waiting on parts to deliver (Thanks Hiball) Elroy spent a good deal of time cleaning up parts.

Remember this is a TOTAL rebuild not just a quick seal job.

We would also like to acknowledge the excellent observation by Swampy Joe:

I've read that sandblasting with play-sand is extremely unhealthy.

Please note these statements:

We blast out doors and 50 pounds in the grass just disappears.

Out doors operation is a must.

So please allow Elroy to emphasise the importance of using the proper PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) that includes eye protection AND clean air via a face mask and proper ventilation.

This little Speedblaster works GREAT but it can also make a real mess. And the biggest mess it makes is inside of your body.

We blast out doors ONLY and use the proper PPE.

 

[W-Cummins]

Looks like another great job Elroy! I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one the has re-purposed their HF engine crane as a paint tree!

William....

 

[Elroy]

If Elroy don't keep after it, this damn thing will never get done. So tonight it was time to repair the plunger. You can see in this photo how badly mangled and mushroomed the head of the plunger is:

Took a file and removed just enough of the burr to get the snap ring and spring cups removed. We were able to remove the plunger and guide as a pair. Got the guide off the plunger and then set the plunger up in the v-block to dress it.

The face of the plunger cleaned up nicely

You can still see some of the nick at the edge but that won't hurt a thing

The seal is shot. We have a fresh one on its way.

One more of a thousand little problems is now history. Hope you're enjoying this as much as Elroy

 

[ears]

One more of a thousand little problems is now history. Hope you're enjoying this as much as Elroy

Most definitely, keep it coming I just got a kit in from Hiball for an old Walker. I'm chomping at the bit but need to get a shaft machined for it first, may be a while.

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

One more of a thousand little problems is now history. Hope you're enjoying this as much as Elroy

Got my vote as a five star thread

I really look forward to your updates

-BWP

 

[Elroy]

I just got a kit in from Hiball for an old Walker.

Yep' Hiball is a stand up kind of guy.

Understand he be fishin this week. Kick'en back you know.

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

Ironically, before Elroy started this thread, I was going to try to do a rebuild on my STRONGARM.

However, since I have little energy when I get home (I am in bed on my laptop now) and I seeing how much detail work goes into this, I will just wait until it dies before I try anything.

My candidate:

-BWP

 

[Honda 1]

Great project Elroy! Thanks for sharing the details with us. Excellent job!

 

[Uncle Buck]

I wondered what Elroy used to chamfer the end of the damaged plunger rod? Would Elroy share that?

 

[Elroy]

A bench grinder and a steady hand. Nothing more than that.

 

[Uncle Buck]

A bench grinder and a steady hand. Nothing more than that.

I wondered if that was not the way you did that, just let the rod ride loose enough so that you could rotate it against the grinding wheel yes. Very nicely thought out Elroy, gave smashing results too. Removed some of the doubt of free handing it as well.

 

[Elroy]

Well the Hein Werner OS kit purchased from Hiball delivered this afternoon.

Yep' Hiball is a stand up kind of guy.

Ya, What he said

Any ways, as the old saying goes; good things come in small packages. Now the real fun begins.

 

[Hiball]

Im glad everyone has received there kits and for all the guys who Pm'ed me with questions Ill get to them as soon as i get some stuff unloaded and get a chance. I just got back from a little fishing trip.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Im glad everyone has received there kits and for all the guys who Pm'ed me with questions Ill get to them as soon as i get some stuff unloaded and get a chance. I just got back from a little fishing trip.

Where did you go fishin?

 

[Hiball]

Where did you go fishin?

Bull Shoals in Arkansas, for 5 days.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Bull Shoals in Arkansas, for 5 days.

Been there in days gone by, I wish it was me fishing there. I hope you had a great time and caught a few.

 

[Elroy]

Well it was a light week end on the jack as we are waiting on some obsolete hard parts to deliver. We took this as an opportunity to work on a few other areas. If you refer back to some of the original pictures of the "WS" you'll notice that the handle is untouched and still wears its factory paint. The "OS" handle needs some attention. You can see the bushings for the pivot pins is beat out:

We also took this time to prepare the cylinder:

Then there are the miscellaneous parts.

It's becoming more work than what Elroy really wanted to get into but we're committed now so it's going all the way.

 

[Elroy]

Well it's another hurry up and wait week end. The hard parts vendor Elroy was dealing with sent him the wrong parts. We had to e-mail him a photo of the parts so he could correctly identify it. Some people. Anyways, that little problem should be history shortly.

So this morning before it got good and hot, Elroy started some assembly work.

Oh while we're on the subject of parts. Have you tried to purchase bearing balls in bulk lately? What a joke! Years ago you could walk into a good hardware store and pick them off the self. Not any more. There is a Kaman warehouse in town and they couldn't even get them. Period.

All the other bearing houses in town had to order them from the manufacturer and then pay shipping on top of that. Oh $20 minimum order. What a pisser

Contacted my sales rep at Neill-LaVielle and discovered that their sister company, Bearings of Kentucky had them in stock at 4 cents each, minimum order 100. problem solved.

Any who, on with the assembly, Yes that's primer on the race. Elroy wanted to keep the rust in check because that is what ate the original caster bearings up.

The nylon washer is a deviation from original

Shot a little white paint on the saddle as well.

 

[Elroy]

And a few shots of the main side plates. We decided to set these plates on edge because the links would keep them from falling over and during the painting we could swing them forward, out of the way and get some paint behind them.

Along with the family dog Pickles, trying to keep cool in the back ground: