Hellfire floor coating experience

[CS223]

Got the opposite side of the building done this weekend, 4 coats. Once again, my associate did a great job of laying it down. His technique seems to be a heavy wet roller, about two 10’ strips then load the roller again. Not much effort spent back rolling. For those of you getting ready to use Hellfire, don’t panic when you put the first coat down, it will look pretty ugly due to the concrete sucking it up. We waited 2 hours between coats and it was plenty dry to walk on, we wore those cheap disposable slip on clean room shoe covers changing them each time we crossed onto the fresh floor. Another tip, if you have spider cracks and imperfections, daub Hellfire into them in advance of rolling that section.

Tip of the hat to Legacy, they were spot on as to the amount of product require to do the job.

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[bullnerd]

Looks great.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Looking great, again!

 

[Eb76adam]

Looking great, again!

Scotty

Just poured a new floor. How long do I need to wait before applying Hellfire?
I don’t see any reference to this on the website.
Thx

 

[Shea]

30 days before applying any coatings with new concrete.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

30 days before applying any coatings with new concrete.

 

[jlewis45236]

Found your product through Shea's excellent website. Last weekend I cleaned and acid etched the garage. It has been drying all week and I plan on applying Hellfire tomorrow. I received my 4 gallons of Hellfire yesterday along with a bottle of the pigment. What would be the best way to mix that in? One gallon at a time with the two ounces or do I need to combine everything into a 5 gallon bucket and do a good mixing with 8 ounces of the pigment and a drill on low?
I will post some pictures and things I encountered during the process once I finish. I ran into a problem with fiberglass hairs but I plan on using a torch to burn those off tonight.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Each bottle will tint 4 gallons so yes you can do it that way.
Thanks for choosing Legacy!

 

[bullnerd]

Howd it go Lewis?

 

[papp101]

Nice. How'd it go? Any pix?

Found your product through Shea's excellent website. Last weekend I cleaned and acid etched the garage. It has been drying all week and I plan on applying Hellfire tomorrow. I received my 4 gallons of Hellfire yesterday along with a bottle of the pigment. What would be the best way to mix that in? One gallon at a time with the two ounces or do I need to combine everything into a 5 gallon bucket and do a good mixing with 8 ounces of the pigment and a drill on low?
I will post some pictures and things I encountered during the process once I finish. I ran into a problem with fiberglass hairs but I plan on using a torch to burn those off tonight.

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[GRivera]

will this work on a floor previously sealed with Ghostshield 8505?

 

[Shea]

No, you will need to grind first to provide the proper profile and remove the upper layer of sealer. 8505 will effectively block proper penetration for adhesion if you don't do this.

 

[GRivera]

How much time does it take to grind 1200 sf of concrete using rental equipment like in the link?

https://www.unitedrentals.com/marke...grinders-planers/concrete-grinder-dual-head#/

 

[Anchorless]

Any updates from folks and their Hellfire experiences?

 

[indoyota]

How much time does it take to grind 1200 sf of concrete using rental equipment like in the link?

I did my 1200 sf with the single head grinder. It took me almost 4 hours. So, a dual will probably cut that in half.

 

[Black300zx]

I did my 1200 sf with the single head grinder. It took me almost 4 hours. So, a dual will probably cut that in half.

Just curious, was that new uncoated concrete or were you removing a previous coating? It took me probably 6 hours to do my 400sf, but I also was removing concrete paint

 

[indoyota]

Just curious, was that new uncoated concrete or were you removing a previous coating? It took me probably 6 hours to do my 400sf, but I also was removing concrete paint

It was a fresh slab and the concrete guys didn't burn it out to a smooth finish like they normally do.

 

[macs shop]

I just pulled the trigger on 7gallons of HellFire for my new 800sq ft floor. It has no sealers on it, but it was machine trowled, probably a little too much. Pour a little water on the floor, and it sits on top of the concrete for minutes before absorbing. I am hoping just an acid etch will open the pores enough.

 

[phtcbra]

This looks like it could work for my application.. PM'd LegacyIndustrial

 

[indoyota]

Yup, i should have mine at the end of the week. I'm hoping to lay it down on saturday.

 

[phtcbra]

We can supply additional tint that you can use to darken.

Pic shows standard (lower), tint added (upper).

Send me an email for more info

Question, is this picture with 2oz of pigment added or 4oz of pigment added?

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Two ounces.

 

[countrybumpkin]

Bumping it back up!

I don't see anyone mention heavy machinery?

I will be occasionally moving heavy machinery on casters or dragging when necessary. Milling machines, lathes, industrial equipment, loader buckets etc etc.

Anyone have any experience with how it holds up to something like that?

I am very rough on floors and up until this point, I have wrote off all finishes. It seems like this one may be able to take the abuse from what I've read.

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[Shea]

Nothing is going to hold up to heavy machinery being drug across a coated floor. Your best bet is going to be the bare concrete with a penetrating sealer if it's going to see that kind of use.

 

[bulletpruf]

Nothing is going to hold up to heavy machinery being drug across a coated floor. Your best bet is going to be the bare concrete with a penetrating sealer if it's going to see that kind of use.

Agreed. The Hellfire coating is tough but it's not indestructible.

 

[Andy Smith Jr.]

Hellfire is an incredible product nothing can hold up long term to that abuse!

 

[jbass350z]

I have a couple questions. I have a 680sqft space i want to coat. There is a 4inch tall lip around the entire perimeter that was painted by the home builder. I have no idea what it was painted with, but I want to coat up that lip as well. I plan to etch the floor, but what do I need to do about the paint?

How many gallons needed for 3 and 4 coats?

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

5 gal for 3 coats.

 

[jbass350z]

5 gal for 3 coats.

Can you comment about my other question ? There is a 4inch tall lip around the entire perimeter that was painted by the home builder. I have no idea what it was painted with, but I want to coat up that lip as well. I plan to etch the floor, but what do I need to do about the paint?

 

[Sumboodie]

It can withstand far greater heat but will likely still mar from splatter.

Weld high or use a blanket. I weld in my driveway, I have paranoia over the house burning down while I sleep from a slow burning ember.


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Not exactly fun welding outside when it's cold though.

 

[Sumboodie]

My apologies, I have not seen any of these oil cleaners except Pour n Restore. I would use 400 sq ft avg. for a three coat process.

The primer is on our site, works well.
Actually gels the oil in place, keeps it from surfacing.

http://www.legacyindustrial.net/products/primer-coatings/hd820-oil-stop-primer.html


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So for 1200 sq feet and 3 coats it would take about 3 gallons? I looked to order 4 gallons and it's showing shipping as not costing anything. Is that correct?

 

[Sumboodie]

Nothing is going to hold up to heavy machinery being drug across a coated floor. Your best bet is going to be the bare concrete with a penetrating sealer if it's going to see that kind of use.

Whatever they used in the warehouse I work in works fine. Has held up decent to forklifts, dragging metal totes (about 4000lbs), pallets, etc.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Can you comment about my other question ? There is a 4inch tall lip around the entire perimeter that was painted by the home builder. I have no idea what it was painted with, but I want to coat up that lip as well. I plan to etch the floor, but what do I need to do about the paint?

Can you comment about my other question ? There is a 4inch tall lip around the entire perimeter that was painted by the home builder. I have no idea what it was painted with, but I want to coat up that lip as well. I plan to etch the floor, but what do I need to do about the paint?

It may peel/curl the paint. Solvent base. You are welcome to test it. Worst case may have to sand off. Also keep your eye on it because it has metal additive in May like to drop off of the verticals. Go light.