Ah screw it, I placed the order. I don't have a business, so I signed up with a company of "Personal". The order confirmation page said that they needed to first verify my new account, and then if approved, they will process the order. Hope it gets approved, even if not for this order, for the future. Dunno if you *have* to have a real business account or not... it sure seems like it when setting it all up.
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AdamH
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I jumped on this too but I had to ship it. Still not bad at about 425.
You might be right about no rack included, but I don't think so. The part number 1TKC5 very clearly indicates with running gear included as does the picture.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/catalogPDF.shtml - Page 3563
WhoWhatNow
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I called and asked to have it delivered to a store. They said they couldn't do it because it is shipping 3rd party. I told them to ship to the house. When he gave me the total he said no freight charges. The only thing I can think of is it is linked to the account. Larger accounts may get better deals on shipping, etc.
WhoWhatNow
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Patrick Boyle
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Just ordered the 180. If this comes through I'll be a happy customer 
WhoWhatNow
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Looking at it again, you might be right. The item number on sale is the pkg with the cart included.
It would be nice if the rack is included. Hopefully we'll find out in 5-7 days.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/itemDetails.shtml
based on the comparison linked above, I'm now thinking the "deal" does NOT have auto set.
by the way: can someone explain 'auto set'?
edit: I can't see anything in that link. Just go to the product page and click Product Comparison
based on the comparison linked above, I'm now thinking the "deal" does NOT have auto set.
by the way: can someone explain 'auto set'?
edit: I can't see anything in that link. Just go to the product page and click Product Comparison
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For those that think they are getting away with free shipping, please be aware that grainger offers the ability to pay the carrier when delivered. you might getting that option selected by default. They do offer "will call" where you can pick it up at the store for free.
Autoset is a setting on some Miller welders that you try once, right after you open the box, and then realize the machine doesn't always choose the best setting and (even if it did) it doesn't save you any time. So you just set your wire speed and heat manually.
98TJ
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If you're a member of the Craftsman Club Sears has the 12-piece standard and metric impact sets on sale for $39.99
Also have locking flex head ratcheting wrenches 50% off, elbow wrenches on sale, etc...
Good until the 11th.
http://s7.sears.com/is-viewers/flas...une_2011_Tools&sid=I0084400010000100383&aff=Y
Also have locking flex head ratcheting wrenches 50% off, elbow wrenches on sale, etc...
Good until the 11th.
http://s7.sears.com/is-viewers/flas...une_2011_Tools&sid=I0084400010000100383&aff=Y
filtered
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I ordered the Miller 180, with a will call and cash on pick up. It says my account has been approved, so hopefully I'll be getting a new welder soon. I really need to upgrade my tiny Lincoln 100.
Now I just need to get 230v in the garage.
Heck if this comes through I might have to order the 140 too.
Now I just need to get 230v in the garage.
Heck if this comes through I might have to order the 140 too.
If you open the additional information tab on the link it says "Auto set". Guess we wil find out if peopel start getting their orders!
Tanshanomi
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My birthday's next week, so I just called my wife and told her I wanted a Millermatic 140 for my birthday. She placed the order online and specified pick up at a Granger store right down the street from my employer. She simply put in "Personal" as our organization name. Let's see if it actually happens; those Miller prices seem too good to be true.
ChrisF250
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Available in the store for the same price picked a set up yesterday
bas157
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I ordered a welder with the will call of the store down the road. Just got order confirmation and it says it is being shipped to my office with a freight charge or $76 on the 180 and $65 on the 140 (ordered both, one will be for me, the other is for a friend, not sure which I'll be keeping though). Guess I'll call them and ask about the freight charge! Anyone else have this happen?
bjkulawi
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Yep, that happened to me but I called and got it sorted out. Fingers crossed mine is now being shipped to the local Grainger under my company account. I had a pending charge for the increased price on my credit card with freight charges, so hopefully that'll be reversed just as smoothly.
bas157
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I was about to call Grainger and ask about the freight charge but the local store called me as I was reaching for the phone. He said only 1 store, in Puerto Rico, has them in stock and since it was being shipped from the mfg there was no way I could avoid the shipping charges. Maybe if I called a national number for Grainger I can talk to someone there who might be able to do something about the freight charge?
padronanniversary
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ordered 2 Millers 180s. Will make awesome stocking stuffers
MrSnicks
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I ordered last night not knowing that I could save $70+ dollars on shipping by doing will call. Called to cancel today and reordered using will call and will save shipping. Only problem is that they can't confirm for 24 hours if my first ordered was canceled since it is coming straight from Miller.
So....I may have 2 coming to me. Oh yeah, I also have a MM 175...so I may have 3 welders.
Worst case scenario, I can CL one of the MM180's and get more than I paid for it and actually make a few bucks on the deal.
If the deal goes through, based on past CL ads, I can sell my MM175 and break even (with the purchase of the new 180) or even make a couple of bucks. The reason to do this is not for the extra 5 amps, but because the 180 allows you to add a spoon gun directly to weld aluminum (a cost of about $200). The cost to add that to my 175 would be about 3x higher.
I believe the current models have "autoset" which I believe was called WST (wire speed tracking) on the older models. WST was not liked by some and I think the autoset models can have this turned off if you don't want the machine dialing in wire speed. I personally have no problem with and my MM175 runs like a dream.
My head tells me this deal is too good to be true but the longer that price remains on the website, the more I think it might be legit.
If you ever thought about an entry level welder, HF welder, etc - GET IN ON THIS DEAL. This is a top quality welder made in the USA with top quality components for the price of chinese made ****. This is not like getting 50% off of a t-shirt that says "spring break 2011"....this is getting 50+% off a top 180amp welder that will hold it's value to years. Every future thread asking about a good, cheap welder with be answered by a guy saying "dude...you shoulda got in on the Millermatic 180 deal," followed by face-to-palm and regret by the OP.
So....I may have 2 coming to me. Oh yeah, I also have a MM 175...so I may have 3 welders.
Worst case scenario, I can CL one of the MM180's and get more than I paid for it and actually make a few bucks on the deal.
If the deal goes through, based on past CL ads, I can sell my MM175 and break even (with the purchase of the new 180) or even make a couple of bucks. The reason to do this is not for the extra 5 amps, but because the 180 allows you to add a spoon gun directly to weld aluminum (a cost of about $200). The cost to add that to my 175 would be about 3x higher.
I believe the current models have "autoset" which I believe was called WST (wire speed tracking) on the older models. WST was not liked by some and I think the autoset models can have this turned off if you don't want the machine dialing in wire speed. I personally have no problem with and my MM175 runs like a dream.
My head tells me this deal is too good to be true but the longer that price remains on the website, the more I think it might be legit.
If you ever thought about an entry level welder, HF welder, etc - GET IN ON THIS DEAL. This is a top quality welder made in the USA with top quality components for the price of chinese made ****. This is not like getting 50% off of a t-shirt that says "spring break 2011"....this is getting 50+% off a top 180amp welder that will hold it's value to years. Every future thread asking about a good, cheap welder with be answered by a guy saying "dude...you shoulda got in on the Millermatic 180 deal," followed by face-to-palm and regret by the OP.
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the 140 can be run off a 110 outlet. The 180 needs 220 (or whatever number you choose). I had an electrician run a 220 line with a 30amp breaker for my MM175. the 220 machines have greater capacity (can weld thicker metal). Most people prefer this. the 140 is great for autobody, but a lot of guys with 110 welders regret not getting a 220.
For the minimal price difference in these two, GET THE 180! You will not regret it.
Most people think a mig is the preferred welder for a novice. It's easy to use. This deal is not almost too to good to pass up. It IS too good to pass up. If you don't think you'll use it much, get it anyway. These things hold their value. You will be able to sell it for more than you paid when you are done with it. IMO, there are only two choices: buy it now or regret not buying it later. It's that good of a deal.
Thanks to the guy who mentioned this first. I owe you one (if it goes through - I'm still not sleeping well at night about the files that amazon didn't come through with).
For the minimal price difference in these two, GET THE 180! You will not regret it.
Most people think a mig is the preferred welder for a novice. It's easy to use. This deal is not almost too to good to pass up. It IS too good to pass up. If you don't think you'll use it much, get it anyway. These things hold their value. You will be able to sell it for more than you paid when you are done with it. IMO, there are only two choices: buy it now or regret not buying it later. It's that good of a deal.
Thanks to the guy who mentioned this first. I owe you one (if it goes through - I'm still not sleeping well at night about the files that amazon didn't come through with).
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bas157
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The deal is legit according to the local rep that called me from the store. He mentioned the promo is running to (i think)the 15th. He was even curious and looked up the normal price and made a comment about how he wishes he welded to get in on the deal.
but does the 180 come with the ground clamp and gun? I know it says it on the additional information page but do we know for sure?
"Include regulator, 10-ft. MIG gun, and hose cart."
Additional information on the webpage says the above. Doesn't say ground clamp but I can't imagine they'd sell one without it - especially set up that comes with a cart. It's a great deal either way.
To address an issue brought up earlier about the Autoset (whether this model has it or not)....I'm not aware that Miller sells a 180 amp mig welder without it. Correct me if I'm wrong. I know that Lincoln has lower levels of 180 welders (tapped setting vs infinite control) but Miller just has the one I believe. Looking up the Mfr # that the Grainger site provides, you see that same number used by other sellers for the MM180 with Autoset. So I think it's the real deal, not a stripped down model.
Additional information on the webpage says the above. Doesn't say ground clamp but I can't imagine they'd sell one without it - especially set up that comes with a cart. It's a great deal either way.
To address an issue brought up earlier about the Autoset (whether this model has it or not)....I'm not aware that Miller sells a 180 amp mig welder without it. Correct me if I'm wrong. I know that Lincoln has lower levels of 180 welders (tapped setting vs infinite control) but Miller just has the one I believe. Looking up the Mfr # that the Grainger site provides, you see that same number used by other sellers for the MM180 with Autoset. So I think it's the real deal, not a stripped down model.
Good to know. Makes me believe it might be legit. Anyone considering it, should buy now IMO. You never know if news of this deal gets around, they could pull the sale early.
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DonkDonk
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To anyone thinking about adding a welder to their tool collection DO IT! Any monkey can run a MIG welder. You can jump on youtube and be taught how to do basic MIG welding in no time. Now I am not saying you can go out and do structural welding, but for home use, cars, etc.. no problem.
These 2 deals really seem too good to be true, but things like this do happen. Miller & Lincoln welders are unique in the way they retain their retail value unlike most machines/tools you buy. For example if you go out and spend $3,500 on a nice new air compressor and try to sell it 3 years later you would be lucky to get $500... You buy this MM180 for $400 and use it for 3 years you can sell it for $600 or so. Miller & Lincoln's retain 60-80% value for a long time... sometimes even 20 years or so. I have a MM250 that a friend of mine bought new in the mid 90's for $1,500 and the current model MM252 is around $2,200 and I see old MM250 like mine consistently bring $800-1,200 on Ebay and such.
I would think at these prices the mom and pop welding shops would buy them... I would think their cost would be slightly higher on both of them.
These 2 deals really seem too good to be true, but things like this do happen. Miller & Lincoln welders are unique in the way they retain their retail value unlike most machines/tools you buy. For example if you go out and spend $3,500 on a nice new air compressor and try to sell it 3 years later you would be lucky to get $500... You buy this MM180 for $400 and use it for 3 years you can sell it for $600 or so. Miller & Lincoln's retain 60-80% value for a long time... sometimes even 20 years or so. I have a MM250 that a friend of mine bought new in the mid 90's for $1,500 and the current model MM252 is around $2,200 and I see old MM250 like mine consistently bring $800-1,200 on Ebay and such.
I would think at these prices the mom and pop welding shops would buy them... I would think their cost would be slightly higher on both of them.
kc-steve
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The first to mention this was "t100" late last night, four pages back or so.
And I will back-up what "Lhorn" says, you cannot get a better MIG welder for the money PERIOD! And I've never seen a deal like this. The closest deal I've seen was when I dickered with my Airgas dealer to buy a Miller Thunderbolt XL ac/dc a couple of years ago. The only thing I can imagine is that Miller probably needed an influx of revenue to make their latest quarterly results look good to shareholders. So although I hesitated because it seemed too good to be true, it really looks like I have my second Miller welder, A MATCHING SET to be exact.
Steve
Not to go overboard selling the MM180, but if you already have a small welder and are thinking about upgrading, remember that the current MM140 and 180 can have a spool gun attached directly (gun costs a bit over 200 bucks). The previous generations of these welders required a different gun AND the SGA spool gun adapter, making it much more expensive. Essentially this allows you to weld aluminum (provided you have the require gas). While it is technically possible to weld aluminum without a spool gun it is highly frustrating to the point that few do it. (The aluminum wire is softer and is hard to push through the gun even with a teflon liner).
Rickenbackerman
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I dropped almost 1300 for my whole welding setup (180, tank, gas, gloves, helmet, extra wire, etc.) about 3 years ago from a local welding supply shop.
The 180 is a great welder and that Grainger deal is STUPID good if it works out for you guys - best of luck!
The 180 is a great welder and that Grainger deal is STUPID good if it works out for you guys - best of luck!
les_garten
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The Miller should come with all this:
http://www.weldfabulous.com/Welders/Mig/Miller-Electric/Miller-951374-Millermatic-p4543673.html
http://www.weldfabulous.com/Welders/Mig/Miller-Electric/Miller-951374-Millermatic-p4543673.html
DonkDonk
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If you are talking about picking up the MM140 I would think it would depend on what you are wanting to do with it. Some Hobart welders are identical to the Miller counterpart, only difference is the color & name on the welder... some have a few more features, but basically the same. Not sure if your Hobart has the easy & cheap spool gun attachments or not, or even if that makes a difference to you. As far as the quality of weld, should be the same.
gabeancounter
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Just ordered the MM180! Shipping direct to the my employer for free. Our cost was like 50 cent cheaper, but a great deal for $419.59.
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