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When will the Nepros ratchets be back in stock?
We are currently working through some unanticipated negotiations with the manufacturer in the new year. We are working to resolve ASAP, but as of today I don't have a firm timeline on when more nepros ratchets will be arriving.

@billspreston,

Big fan of the shop! Are you still able to get Effetto Mariposa 1/4 torque wrenches? I can’t seem to find them in stock anywhere in the US.

Regards,
Tony - another bike industry nerd
Effetto Mariposa recently superseded their 1/4" torque lineup with updated models that are no longer produced in Italy – they are now being produced in Taiwan. While there is absolutely nothing wrong with the quality of these new tools or Taiwanese manufacturing, DRPD's focus has always been on providing tools from established manufacturing origins like Switzerland, Japan, Germany, Italy, etc. With this change, we made the difficult to decision to stop carrying those tools in our shop.

I believe the existing US distributor for these tools is sold out of the old line and has either not stocked the new line or does not plan to which is likely contributing to your difficulty finding them in the US.
 
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Stoked you guys like the packaging. We definitely care about that stuff here and use some nice Neenah (Environment) and Mohawk (Loop) papers.

In other news – it's GJ early access time. We are running a sale starting tomorrow for the upcoming President's Day weekend, but have a code available for you now – details below:
  • 10% Off Sitewide (no restrictions)
  • 15% Off $250+
  • Ends Monday, Feb 19 @ 11:59 PM Pacific Time
  • Coupon code WINTER24GJ active now
Will you be offering Garage Journal members coupons for Presidents Day this year?
 

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I got the following email from DRPD:

DRPD Suspends Partnership with Kyoto Tool Company (KTC) and nepros​

March 9th, 2025 – San Luis Obispo, California​
We regret to announce that DRPD is suspending its 5 year partnership with Kyoto Tool Company (KTC) and affiliated nepros brand.

What Happened?​

At the beginning of the year KTC presented a substantial (50%+) price increase to USA Retailers, and despite ongoing discussions, we have yet to negotiate a positive resolution.

In accepting these proposed changes, DRPD would be unable to continue delivering the value that you have come to expect on KTC and nepros tools in the United States.

We have been fielding an increasing number of inquiries from customers regarding our lack of KTC and nepros stock and aim to provide ongoing transparency into the situation.

What Next?​

  • Existing KTC and nepros inventory will be available on a clearance basis. Listings will be unavailable once stock is depleted.
  • All open backorders for KTC and nepros products will be refunded.
  • We will continue talks with KTC in hopes of finding a future solution.
This decision has not come lightly and we are absolutely disappointed that we are currently unable to deliver these great Made in Japan tools to our valued customers.

Rest assured that DRPD remains committed to providing you with the best tools available and will continue to do so by expanding our offerings with both existing and exciting new premium tool suppliers.​

Here is the link to their clearance sale:
https://drpd.cc/collections/ktc-nep...JxzM_d3KsJfmbpaT_xUzDs6PRm_PQLzu1WquKE.QUBEF7
 

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I got the following email from DRPD:

DRPD Suspends Partnership with Kyoto Tool Company (KTC) and nepros​


March 9th, 2025 – San Luis Obispo, California​
We regret to announce that DRPD is suspending its 5 year partnership with Kyoto Tool Company (KTC) and affiliated nepros brand.

What Happened?​


At the beginning of the year KTC presented a substantial (50%+) price increase to USA Retailers, and despite ongoing discussions, we have yet to negotiate a positive resolution.

In accepting these proposed changes, DRPD would be unable to continue delivering the value that you have come to expect on KTC and nepros tools in the United States.

We have been fielding an increasing number of inquiries from customers regarding our lack of KTC and nepros stock and aim to provide ongoing transparency into the situation.

What Next?​


  • Existing KTC and nepros inventory will be available on a clearance basis. Listings will be unavailable once stock is depleted.
  • All open backorders for KTC and nepros products will be refunded.
  • We will continue talks with KTC in hopes of finding a future solution.
This decision has not come lightly and we are absolutely disappointed that we are currently unable to deliver these great Made in Japan tools to our valued customers.

Rest assured that DRPD remains committed to providing you with the best tools available and will continue to do so by expanding our offerings with both existing and exciting new premium tool suppliers.​

Here is the link to their clearance sale:
https://drpd.cc/collections/ktc-nep...JxzM_d3KsJfmbpaT_xUzDs6PRm_PQLzu1WquKE.QUBEF7
Unfortunate, as DRPD was my favorite place to buy Nepros :(

Stuff is selling out fast, a few items went unavailable for me in the few minutes between adding to cart and checking out. If anybody wants something, grab it now!
 

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As I said in another post, I hope Koken won't go down the same route.
I doubt it solely because Koken already has a US distribution network and several authorized dealer/distributers. I mean they could go the Knipex way and have a set price sheet everyone has the follow, but I don’t think they would.
 

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I find it hard to believe that KTC doesn't want to sell to the US Market. :dunno:
Anything is possible. Toptul ignores the US Market. Perhaps, KTC is going to set up a new US Distributor network with MAP pricing. Who knows. :sad: :
 
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Hey All, apologies for the radio silence over the last few months – it has been an interesting start to 2025 for us as I'm sure it has been for many of you as well.

I do believe KTC has ambitions to sell nepros tools in the US so I think you guys will still be able to source those tools with relative ease in the US.

At the end of the day, DRPD is a still a (growing) small fish and, in the case of KTC, I would assume that we simply are not moving enough volume for our opinions to pull weight. I do believe DRPD and you all here at Garage Journal have played a significant role in advancing both the KTC and nepros brands in the US so this has certainly been a disappointing lesson for us to learn.

The show goes on and we'll be adding some exciting new brands here over the next few months to fill the void.

Happy to answer any questions you might have!
 

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I'm glad I managed to snag a couple items from the leftovers that are still useful to me. (order placed two days ago).
I owe a debt of gratitude to DRPD for lettting me discover Nepros. And to GJ for letting me discover DRPD.

DRPD is an excellent vendor I will continue to patronize and recommend to anyone.
 

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Good to see you guys get on board with Wera! :thumbup:
They make great products but I really just don't like the handles.... I have a set I keep out because they're one of my few pozi drivers, but I really don't like the handles.

Well, I don't like the full size, I like the micro stuff
 
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They make great products but I really just don't like the handles.... I have a set I keep out because they're one of my few pozi drivers, but I really don't like the handles.
Good thing there is PB Swiss :)

In all seriousness, the Kraftform handles are polarizing and that's okay! Some people really love them and some do not. Is it the shape or the material that's not for you? I do feel there could be room in the Wera lineup for a secondary handle option for those that like the blades, but not the Kraftform handles.
 

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Good thing there is PB Swiss :)

In all seriousness, the Kraftform handles are polarizing and that's okay! Some people really love them and some do not. Is it the shape or the material that's not for you? I do feel there could be room in the Wera lineup for a secondary handle option for those that like the blades, but not the Kraftform handles.
Yeah it's just the handle shape. That's it.

I think the drivers are amazing. They really grip well they hold up well. I just don't like the handle.

I've kept them around because they're my only set that are full drivers without using bits that have pozidrive.

And even though I own probably 10 or 12 other sets, none of them have pozidrive. Because I have sets in different locations, I track them all, and my records show that I have 58 pozidrive bits spread across all my bit sets. So it's not that I have trouble finding them if I really need them, but, I like to have one set with handles so I don't have to find the bit, put it in a driver when I just need one quick in my primary shop.

So is time for me just to buy something that I like. And I really like the PB Swiss handles. Of course, PB Swiss has two different sets that I like. But I decided to go for the pretty rainbow colors. I didn't want them to blend in with my other DB Swiss handles. So it was either that or the hard blue handles.

And while I was at it, I figured I'd order some e6 bits from PB Swiss. I have a ton of PB Swiss bits, but most of them are C6 size.
 

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They make great products but I really just don't like the handles.... I have a set I keep out because they're one of my few pozi drivers, but I really don't like the handles.

Agreed. I bought a 1/4" bit driver. Used it maybe 1 or 2 times. Their handle design is very uncomfortable to use. For me at least.

That said, I like some of their stuff. I have 3 sets of Wera L-keys (hex & torx) and they are fantastic. I also have a 1/4" short socket set and I like them as well.

@DRPD Hopefully you guys will carry more of the Wera lineup beyond 1/4" bits. It would be nice to have a reliable source. The less I have to buy on Amazon, the better.
 
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Can we expect a Memorial Day sale?
Asking before I place an order.

Are there any plans on actually stocking/expanding your wrench selection?
 
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@AJHD – Yes, I would anticipate a sitewide Memorial Day sale, but it will likely be a bit more mild than in years past. We have yet to raise our prices in response to tariffs so we simply have less room in our margin to work with at the moment.

With regard to the wrenches and assuming you are referring to box/combination/open-end style wrenches – that's certainly something we need to work on now that we are no longer carrying KTC and nepros! Our current portfolio of brands does not offer those products so it would require selecting a new brand to fill that current gap. You all have any opinions here? Tone, Hazet, Stahlwille?
 

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Tone makes some neat stuff, and they aren't easily sourced in the US- things like their long DBE wrenches and ratcheting wrenches. I think that a few of their products would be a good addition to your lineup. I also like my Stahlwille wrenches; you'd have to compete with Amazon on some sets, but singles are more difficult to find.
 

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With regard to the wrenches and assuming you are referring to box/combination/open-end style wrenches – that's certainly something we need to work on now that we are no longer carrying KTC and nepros! Our current portfolio of brands does not offer those products so it would require selecting a new brand to fill that current gap. You all have any opinions here? Tone, Hazet, Stahlwille?
I’ve always been a bit wary of Tone.

They’ve produced some nice stuff for sure, but an awful lot of their line seems to be made in Taiwan now. I’m not saying it’s bad, but it’s no better, or worse, than any other reasonable Taiwan tool.

I think much of it sells in Japan, predominantly on price, but with shipping costs being related to weight / bulk, that price advantage will largely be negated by the time the tools hit the U.S.

Edit - there’s a discussion on the “Tools of Japan” forum re Tone’s ratchets. Tone claim they are made in Japan but how much is questioned!

For me, the stand out items from Tone are the unique tools. They produce an entire line of stainless steel tools, for example.

A friend has these plated impact sockets. They are electroless nickel if memory serves (so they don’t chip) and are superb in every respect.
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The sets are geared to Japanese sizes though, and don’t include popular ISO sizes.
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But you asked about wrenches and I can’t help much with those.

With regard to Asahi I have no doubts there.

Asahi produce some distinct lines. Their “Lightool” range are well known, and reasonably unique, but I think a lot of vendors stock them because they are inexpensive, and that shouldn’t be the main motivation. The Lightool ratchets are also made in Taiwan now.

The “Revowave” wrenches are lovely. Very rugged, uniquely styled, good value, and hard to find outside Japan. I would have no hesitation about keeping these.
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I would also consider the hex keys. I’ve been intending posting about hex keys for a while, and although not well known, I think that the Asahi probably compete with PB Swiss for the very best available anywhere.

This isn’t apparent at first glance though. You have to look closely to see the quality, also some of the special / unique designs such as the retaining ball styleIMG_1655.jpeg

The short offset
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Or the unique “Daxkey” which not only have each end offset at 90 degrees, but also the hex offset, so you can use them like a 4 way wrench when nothing else will fit.IMG_1657.jpeg

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The coloured keys are nice too, but much like PB Swiss it’s important to understand that these are not novelty items that sell because they are coloured, but rather that their “unique selling point” is their overall quality.
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I’ll write you something about Hazet and Stahlwille later, when I’m at the shop and have them in front of me.
 
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My vote is for Stahlwille and Hazet.
I'd like to explore those brands in the future.

KC Tool seems to be the only real solid source in the US, outside of Amazon.
 

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My vote is for Stahlwille and Hazet.

KC Tool seems to be the only real solid source in the US, outside of Amazon.

Zoro sells Stahlwille and Hazet, with decent prices after their 20% off coupons.
 

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With regard to Hazet and Stahlwille, if we are talking wrenches here (the answer would be different with other tools) then realistically, either are very good.

The tools are very different in appearance. The Stahlwille are overall satin finished (proper satin, not a crappy matte that some others call satin). Hazet are part matte, part polished.

The Hazet are fairly resistant to wear, certainly on the matte areas. The Stahlwille actually seem to polish slightly in use. Neither show marks from use that a polished Snap On would.

Stahlwille feel different to other wrenches. The steel feels lighter but they are very strong and springy. The more you use them the more you get to like them. Hazet feel heftier and harder.

As regards open enders, there’s little to choose. I probably slightly prefer the Stahlwille (because Hazet don’t polish theirs at all) but I’d be happy with either.
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For short combination’s it’s hard to choose. See above re different feel. I have a rack of Stahlwille above my bench as my “go to“ and they’re great. Have a few Hazet in one of my vehicles, same applies. Note the different offset and choose which you prefer.
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For long combinations I think the Hazet win - so much so that I can’t show you a comparable Stahlwille. They win largely because I think the slightly stiffer open ends of the Hazet are slightly better suited to the longer wrenches. I just love the feel of these too.

(A member here pointed out these are dimensionally identical to the old Britool “inset panel” RBM series - no bad thing). These are also available in an extra long version, which Stahlwille are not,
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For box end wrenches I slightly prefer the Stahlwille. In fact, I have a load of these and also use them as my “go to”. The Stahlwille have “off corner” engagement, which the Hazet box end do not, and Hazet have now discontinued the shallow offset No.625, so if you want that it has to be Stahlwille.

Having said that, the Hazet do have “some qualities” about them, and they really do inspire confidence. Both makers offer deep offset.
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The short / thin, zero offset, wrench seems to be an exclusively European pattern. I only have a few of these, Stahlwille only in Torx, but I prefer the Stahlwille. The Hazet are a slightly odd shape.
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For flare nut wrenches it’s Hazet every time. Very solid, and a wide selection is available. One if the few flare nut wrenches that comes close to Snap On. Special brake line versions (very strong) are available.
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Hope that’s useful.

It would be a different answer for socket wrenches and accessories (Hazet all the way) and different again for screwdrivers and pliers.
 
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I'd rather see more Japanese stuff (Tone / Asahi), at least that's what I'd be more inclined to buy, they seem to have more uniqueness about them. Gedore/Stahlwille/Hazet, I just can't seem to understand why people like them so much. They don't look bad, they just don't look all that great either, especially looking at their results from TTC's testing involving them.
 

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I'd rather see more Japanese stuff (Tone / Asahi), at least that's what I'd be more inclined to buy, they seem to have more uniqueness about them. Gedore/Stahlwille/Hazet, I just can't seem to understand why people like them so much. They don't look bad, they just don't look all that great either, especially looking at their results from TTC's testing involving them.
I think I remember watching that test.

Most of these tests are not totally reflective of real world use as they invariably test the open end till it slips. Something I seldom need to do.

But if I recall correctly the Hazet performed very well, only being beaten for torque by wrenches with an anti slip open end.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that in most of the world there’s a vast difference in price between wrenches by Snap On, Cornwell etc, and the likes of Hazet, Stahlwille, Facom etc.

I do consider Gedore to be generally over rated though.

All the Japanese tools are good value at present, and Asahi are consistently under rated I think. That may be because availability is poor, so they’re only known to enthusiasts who source directly from Japan.

I’ve seen the odd Asahi wrench set here in the U.K. but you have to hunt for them.
 
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To give an idea of relative prices, here’s an extract from a post in the Facom thread.
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Hazet are nearer the Facom end at £22. The long 600’s are similar money as they lack the offset end.
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The price differential is going to be much less when you take the Hazet away from it’s home ground, and try to compete with the American tools on theirs.

Whether they remain competitive is something DRPD will have to work out. My gut feeling is that they will.
 
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To give an idea of relative prices, here’s an extract from a post in the Facom thread.
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Hazet are nearer the Facom end at £22. The long 600’s are similar money as they lack the offset end.
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The price differential is going to be much less when you take the Hazet away from it’s home ground, and try to compete with the American tools on theirs.

Whether they remain competitive is something DRPD will have to work out. My gut feeling is that they will.
The Hazet 603 are nice and I like the offset box, but the 600N/LG have the “off corner” engagement. The 610N short box end also have the "Outside hexagon Traction profile" “off corner” engagement.
 

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The Hazet 603 are nice and I like the offset box, but the 600N/LG have the “off corner” engagement. The 610N short box end also have the "Outside hexagon Traction profile" “off corner” engagement.
Yes, it’s only the 625 and 630 that lack this.

I didn’t make that clear.
 
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