Is there 50K here?

[Teken]

I agree, I think he's high in good times, but definitely way high in a recession. For $36663.80 you could get this from SO:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=65545&group_ID=2295&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

Personally I think he's a little slim in the sockets, ratchets, and general wrenches category (including Gearwrenches) for $50K.

That is pretty much what I was thinking . . . Now mind you the box is worth quite a bit so that has to be factored in. I don't know in my mind if its worth 20K to me, because its not.

There are countless other box's that could be assembled for a fraction of the cost of his box.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Nobody in their right mind would deal with this guy.

 

[knappmenterprises]

I love the guys quote about how he has more 3/8" drive socket than most have of 1/4,3/8 and 1/2" combined. Pro wrench for 25 years? Just judging by the pics, I'm a weekend warrior and have more 1/2" drive stuff than he has put together, oh yeah, I clean my stuff every once in awhile, he's so proud of his collection he can't spend an hour , drink a few brews and get out a cleaning rag?

 

[knappmenterprises]

oh yeah, and while I agree with most that boxes might be work 15k-20k, that's based upon new, and of course if your buying new , you get to pick a color. good example here of resale value, I hate that color he has, black and red might not be flashy, but at least most people can accept them down the line. just imho

 

[mkat1951]

This guy's an idiot. If you want to sell something for that kind of money, maybe open up some of the cases so you can see what's inside, clean and organize everything, and throw out the garbage. Someone who stores there tools like that doesn't really give a **** about them, which makes you wonder how they were treated when they were actually being used. I wouldn't buy from this guy just out of principle. Which works out well since I don't have a spare $50,000 to spend.

 

[Skin]

This guy's an idiot. If you want to sell something for that kind of money, maybe open up some of the cases so you can see what's inside, clean and organize everything, and throw out the garbage. Someone who stores there tools like that doesn't really give a **** about them, which makes you wonder how they were treated when they were actually being used. I wouldn't buy from this guy just out of principle. Which works out well since I don't have a spare $50,000 to spend.

uh no offense but he clearly uses his tools unlike many of the "displays" people have here so in his defense thats how i'd expect a shop worth of tools to look, well used. Nothing wrong with that. You're being ignorant if you think he should have everything polished and clean and you clearly never worked in an active shop. I do agree that it needs to be cleaned up quite a bit, e.g. the pictures containing 5 rolls of teflon tape. I also think his asking price is loony.

 

[knappmenterprises]

I don't mean to start an arguement but active shop or not, I have plenty of friends who wrench 50 hours a week, or at least did till the economy died, and they keep their stuff clean, maybe not daily, but at very least weekly. yes tools are meant to be used, and they are going to get dirty, but when you've got $500 bucks worth of snapy sockets , it would be like your wife setting down her $500 coach purse being set down into a mud puddle and then thrown back into her closet dirty

 

[Skyline]

I actually talked to this guy, and have gotten lots of pictures from him. He was nice enough over the phone. Trust me, the eBay photos don't even scratch the surface. He's got a VERY complete collection of high end tools here. I did not bother pricing this out, as I've had trouble getting pictures from him (he keeps sending 20mb files), and I'm still missing pics. But I'd bet money that he's not so far off in terms of used value. These boxes are packed...this is no display case, tools are 3-4 layers deep in some drawers. I think he'd settle for 80% of asking price, and the boxes are easily worth $10k used. The problem here is not the value...it's finding someone with the money that wants it. I'd be a great buy for someone opening a new shop.

 

[Skin]

I don't mean to start an arguement but active shop or not, I have plenty of friends who wrench 50 hours a week, or at least did till the economy died, and they keep their stuff clean, maybe not daily, but at very least weekly. yes tools are meant to be used, and they are going to get dirty, but when you've got $500 bucks worth of snapy sockets , it would be like your wife setting down her $500 coach purse being set down into a mud puddle and then thrown back into her closet dirty

anyone who polishes their tools that they abuse day in and day out on their own time, not as a form of relaxation but as an addition to their job, is nuts in my opinion.

No, those sockets are not the same as a purse. Your comparison is asinine.

Keeping shop tools in new condition is about the same as keeping a work truck in show room condition. Makes no sense. They're bought to be used and abused, not to look nice. If they cant function, then they've lost their purpose. That does not happen when the chrome polish is dulled by a layer of grime from years of service.

 

[porphyre]

Keeping shop tools in new condition is about the same as keeping a work truck in show room condition. Makes no sense. They're bought to be used and abused, not to look nice. If they cant function, then they've lost their purpose. That does not happen when the chrome polish is dulled by a layer of grime from years of service.

But when it comes time to sell the truck, if you want a good sale price, don't you run it through the automatic car wash, scrape the dried concrete out of the bed, and hose the mud out of the interior?

That's what Knapp's tryin' to say.

 

[Skyline]

It's even harder to keep your tools gleaming if you have a body shop, as this guy did at some point. Quite a few drawers showed layers of dust on things. But tools generally clean up pretty well. A little brake cleaner/WD40 and my favorite...Ronsonol lighter fluid, and these tools would be ready for a new owner or eBay. I love reselling collections where everything is near-new, makes my life much easier. But dirty tools can be valuable too.

 

[Teken]

I actually talked to this guy, and have gotten lots of pictures from him. He was nice enough over the phone. Trust me, the eBay photos don't even scratch the surface. He's got a VERY complete collection of high end tools here. I did not bother pricing this out, as I've had trouble getting pictures from him (he keeps sending 20mb files), and I'm still missing pics. But I'd bet money that he's not so far off in terms of used value. These boxes are packed...this is no display case, tools are 3-4 layers deep in some drawers. I think he'd settle for 80% of asking price, and the boxes are easily worth $10k used. The problem here is not the value...it's finding someone with the money that wants it. I'd be a great buy for someone opening a new shop.

Can you post up any of the missing items from the photo's I and the other GJ member have posted already.

I would be very interested in seeing what is remaining . . . As I said before this was simply to find out if this add was reflective of the facts, or he was simply inflating the price etc.

 

[knappmenterprises]

That was exactly what I was saying, plus even before sale time, money is money no matter what the item, I work hard for it, and take dam good care of what it buys me. Also not sure I agree with "abused" as decent logic. I personally don't know anybody who buys tools to abuse them and certainly would never let anybody who subscribed to that theory borrow or use any of my stuff. USE yes. Besides all that, that layer of grime on them certainly doesn't help when your wrenching chome plated parts on Harley's or freshly painted parts on restoration project. And although I don't wrench on daily basis, I have run a general consturction company, first line of my contract that new employees signed was that when you are using my tools, you will respect it, use it only for it's intended purposes, and at the end of the day, that tool will look exactly like it did in the morning or you will be buying me a new one.

 

[mkat1951]

uh no offense but he clearly uses his tools unlike many of the "displays" people have here so in his defense thats how i'd expect a shop worth of tools to look, well used. Nothing wrong with that. You're being ignorant if you think he should have everything polished and clean and you clearly never worked in an active shop. I do agree that it needs to be cleaned up quite a bit, e.g. the pictures containing 5 rolls of teflon tape. I also think his asking price is loony.

No offence? listen pal, I use my tools every day, and if taking care of my tools is ignorant then so be it. I've never worked in an active shop? what the hell do you know about me? My tools are well looked after. if it was me trying to sell something for that kind of money, I'd want to make it look like I half cared.

 

[mkat1951]

That was exactly what I was saying, plus even before sale time, money is money no matter what the item, I work hard for it, and take dam good care of what it buys me. Also not sure I agree with "abused" as decent logic. I personally don't know anybody who buys tools to abuse them and certainly would never let anybody who subscribed to that theory borrow or use any of my stuff. USE yes. Besides all that, that layer of grime on them certainly doesn't help when your wrenching chome plated parts on Harley's or freshly painted parts on restoration project. And although I don't wrench on daily basis, I have run a general consturction company, first line of my contract that new employees signed was that when you are using my tools, you will respect it, use it only for it's intended purposes, and at the end of the day, that tool will look exactly like it did in the morning or you will be buying me a new one.

I agree. tools are meant to be used, not abused. If all you do is abuse your equipment, remember that when it lets you down. In my experience the guys who beat on stuff are the guys who are always looking to borrow your stuff.

 

[Skin]

No offence? listen pal, I use my tools every day, and if taking care of my tools is ignorant then so be it. I've never worked in an active shop? what the hell do you know about me? My tools are well looked after. if it was me trying to sell something for that kind of money, I'd want to make it look like I half cared.

When you work in a dirty environment your tools invariably get dirty. Do you honestly believe that someone would polish their stuff and/or run each socket through the parts washer on a daily basis? Unless you're working a clean room or, as stated, doing high value restoration that is a very obtuse view to take on everyone who tries to sell some tools. Not everyone wants to dink around at the end of the day making sure everything looks, literally, picture perfect. Rust happens, oil, dirt, salt, and grime happen. It comes with the job. Huff and puff some more, pal.

I agree. tools are meant to be used, not abused. If all you do is abuse your equipment, remember that when it lets you down. In my experience the guys who beat on stuff are the guys who are always looking to borrow your stuff.

tools absorb day to day abuse just like your body does. Abuse to me is dropping something on the floor, accidentally crushing a tool against whatever, or using a socket/screw driver to knock something else loose. If you've never done this then more power to you.

 

[mkat1951]

When you work in a dirty environment your tools invariably get dirty. Do you honestly believe that someone would polish their stuff and/or run each socket through the parts washer on a daily basis? Unless you're working a clean room or, as stated, doing high value restoration that is a very obtuse view to take on everyone who tries to sell some tools. Not everyone wants to dink around at the end of the day making sure everything looks, literally, picture perfect. Rust happens, oil, dirt, salt, and grime happen. It comes with the job. Huff and puff some more, pal.



tools absorb day to day abuse just like your body does. Abuse to me is dropping something on the floor, accidentally crushing a tool against whatever, or using a socket/screw driver to knock something else loose. If you've never done this then more power to you.

You're missing my point. but hey some people just don't get it.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

People who buy tools to abuse them will end up buying those same tools again and again.

 

[porphyre]

When you work in a dirty environment your tools invariably get dirty. Do you honestly believe that someone would polish their stuff and/or run each socket through the parts washer on a daily basis? Unless you're working a clean room or, as stated, doing high value restoration that is a very obtuse view to take on everyone who tries to sell some tools. Not everyone wants to dink around at the end of the day making sure everything looks, literally, picture perfect. Rust happens, oil, dirt, salt, and grime happen. It comes with the job. Huff and puff some more, pal.

Not everyone is trying to sell their tools for $50,000.

 

[srmofo]

I think the point trying to be made here is that if you are going to ask a premium price for used tool set, then at least clean the **** off them. I just think skin is missing the point that he selling them, not showing them off.

I clean my tool cart up once a week or before I start a big job. I always wipe the grease and grime off before I put anything back in its spot. otherwise the grease and grime just multiplies and gets on everything. They're hardly picture perfect, but if I was trying to sell them I would at least clean them up. Its like having the car washed before someone comes to look at buying it.

 

[Bob Heine]

If I were trying to sell my house in this economy, I think I'd take out the trash, wipe the counters and maybe even flush the toilet. But that's just me. I don't think you need to send your tools out to the chrome platers but why not at least wipe them off?

Just a small detail but it looks like there's a "cordless" 110v drill in the collection. Maybe it just needs a new cord but why include it in the dozen pictures on Ebay.

 

[Bart Simpson]

If I were trying to sell my house in this economy, I think I'd take out the trash, wipe the counters and maybe even flush the toilet. But that's just me.

ROFLMAO
Too funny.

 

[arizonaadam]

I just got an "ending soon" warning. Someone better get on it quick!

 

[Blwnsln]

you can call me crazy, but I work in a shop nights, and I wont put any of my tools away without cleaning them, I clean sockets inside and out, I clean all rubber with a rubber care product, all my impacts are always oiled. I feel that I spent a great deal of money on my tools why not keep them clean.

Any took I used dosent go back in the box, it sits on the top untill its properly cleaned, I always wipe down my box and make sure it looks new.
If your gonna spend the money you should atleast try and keep it clean.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

you can call me crazy, but I work in a shop nights, and I wont put any of my tools away without cleaning them, I clean sockets inside and out, I clean all rubber with a rubber care product, all my impacts are always oiled. I feel that I spent a great deal of money on my tools why not keep them clean.

Makes sense to me. If I spent the kind of money good mechanics do on name brand tools, I'd make the effort to keep them in good condition. Some mechanics don't, and those are the shops you try and avoid.

btw, I think Teken is getting ready to pull the trigger on this deal!

 

[Skyline]

I spent a little more time going through the pictures that were posted here, and I think my earlier stament is probably a bit off. I may have some different pictures here as well...but it's really not worth the trouble to post them. From my standpoint, this collection is probably worth less than half of what the seller is asking...there's a lot of obscure stuff that I could never resell....much less figure out what it was.

That said, I find that overpricing a collection llke that is pretty common, and I've bought quite a few large collections by making a cash offer at or less than 50% of what someone is asking. Sometimes, it's not what the stuff is really worth, but who comes up with the most cash in hand within a certain period of time. But the box color is really a turn off for me, I think it would be very hard to move.

 

[Teken]

btw, I think Teken is getting ready to pull the trigger on this deal!

No . . . It's not everyday you see a add for 50K for tools etc. I thought it would be interesting to see what some of the more in the know members of SO branded tools had to say.

I agree with Skyline, the box is very nice but the color is something you either accept and like, or you don't.

After all its just paint, so anyone could redo it to their likings to be honest. I received some more photo's and based on those new images my thoughts are still the same.

Not including the box, there simply isn't 30K worth of tools there also given the fact they are used.