Jp danielson

[HackettB]

Not sure why you keep identifying this as a 1944 wrench. It was made in November of 1945.

Ok. Let’s clear this up… The first pic is the E*4*3. So, April 1943

The second pic — looks to me like a “4”
B*11*4 is a November 1944

*** Anyone else see a “5” anywhere in the two pics?

 

[HackettB]

Ok. Let’s clear this up… The first pic is the E*4*3. So, April 1943

The second pic — looks to me like a “4”
B*11*4 is a November 1944

*** Anyone else see a “5” anywhere in the two pics?

I originally/erroneously indicated it was a “5” but it is a “4”

 

[Private Lugnutz]

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I originally/erroneously indicated it was a “5” but it is a “4”

Well, that explains it. You typed "B.11.5" three times, so yeah, I took your word for it.

 

[HackettB]

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Well, that explains it. You typed "B.11.5" three times, so yeah, I took your word for it.

My sincere apologies! I can’t blame it on my eyes though - just fat fingers.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

No problem.

 

[MisterEd]

A couple of Danielson Wrenches by other names or no name. Is that a ghost "FL" on the final image -- marked with a yellow arrow.

 

[Larr991]

I believe this one!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I picked up this BET'R GRIP 4-incher this morning. Made for Sears' DUNLAP brand in 1940. I have multiple examples of all sizes that JPD made hanging on a rack, I try to not pick up every single one I see in the wild, and I have probably left behind as many as I have brought home, but I have an affinity for the littlest buggers. This is easily the cleanest I have in this size.

 

[RTM]

Here is my contribution to the JP Danielson family. Saw this different shaped pair of water pump pliers under some junk on a table, and the name was easy to read for a change. $2 later they were going home with me. Couple of pics below. The legs have cast in
J.P. DANIELSON CO. INC. U-1-5 (so guessing that means Jan 45?)
MADE IN U.S.A. S.10 4.

On the obverse, looking stamped in
J.P. DANIELSON CO. INC .
JAMESTOWN, N.Y. USA (not sure if periods in the USA)

The lower end of the handles have red paint, have not seen these in other images, guessing user applied. Pivot nut is flattened on 2 sides. If someone needs this to complete a WWII set, holler.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

J.P. DANIELSON CO. INC. U-1-5 (so guessing that means Jan 45?)
MADE IN U.S.A. S.10 4.

Those are both date codes. Each handle was made at a different time. I've had several over the years, all wartime, and it's very common. I have one in my GMTK now, and a few to move on to GMTK collectors in my extras stash box, and none of them are the same month and year. I have never had any that matched. Some were only a month off, some a few months off, and some a year apart.

 

[d42jeep]

I found a 1945 Danielson 6” adjustable at a Tahoe garage sale on Saturday. I rarely pass up the wartime examples unless they are really rusty.
-Don

 

[MisterEd]

J.P. Danielson, 6 inch, Wood Handle.
Can anyone decode the "C.4.1" for me?

 

[Wilf2474]

Of possible interest to you guys - a JP Danielson early type 10" adjustable wrench (circa 1920'3 to early '30's - " forged tool steel"). The sides of the wrench have been filed / ground, presumably to get better grip, suggesting that there were issues/complaints with early models - perhaps this was the reason for introducing the later "Bet'R-Grip" models??

 

[RubiconJK]

Of possible interest to you guys - a JP Danielson early type 10" adjustable wrench (circa 1920'3 to early '30's - " forged tool steel"). The sides of the wrench have been filed / ground, presumably to get better grip, suggesting that there were issues/complaints with early models - perhaps this was the reason for introducing the later "Bet'R-Grip" models??

No. Just modified by a previous owner.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

perhaps this was the reason for introducing the later "Bet'R-Grip" models??

That branding refers to the square throat vs. hex throat, which has a much shallower bite on square fasteners.

 

[d42jeep]

J.P. Danielson, 6 inch, Wood Handle.
Can anyone decode the "C.4.1" for me?

My best guess would be 1941. The 1 indicates the year.
-Don

 

[Wilf2474]

That branding refers to the square throat vs. hex throat, which has a much shallower bite on square fasteners.

Thanks for the info Lugnutz (and Rubicon) - when I got this I thought initially the grooves were factory finish, but on later inspection they obviously aren't. It's still "A Thing of Beauty" - hats off to your invaluable knowledge.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I thought initially the grooves were factory finish,

It's still "A Thing of Beauty"

And a very popular mod. I haven't seen it so much on adjustables, but the number of hammers and other handles I've seen with grooves - rings, laces, barbershop pole pattern, etc - is incalculable!

 

[d42jeep]

Here are some prewar and wartime Danielson adjustable wrenches.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

I found this 6” adjustable Danielson Bet’r-Grip at an estate sale this morning. It was made In 1946. I’m not sure when they stopped selling Danielson brand adjustables.
-Don

I cleaned it up a bit.

 

[d42jeep]

I found a Controlled Steel DOE wrench at an estate sale today. It has the “typewriter font” and a date code that looks to me like 1943. This is probably the last year of that particular font.
-Don

 

[bonneyman]

I found a Controlled Steel DOE wrench at an estate sale today. It has the “typewriter font” and a date code that looks to me like 1943. This is probably the last year of that particular font.
-Don

Those are about the only double open end wrenches that I like. The font is very nice, fairly ***********, and the center groove gives my thumb a resting place during use.

 

[d42jeep]

Yesterday at an estate sale we found four patent pending Auto Kit wrenches that Alloy Artifacts states were made from 1935 to 1937. They came out of the evaporust today looking a little better although I treated the cad plating with plenty of caution.
As found
After clean up.
I went through my Danielson spares and found a matching 1/2” x 7/16” wrench and added it to the others.
Here is a Western Auto clip from 1935 that AA posted that shows the set.
I found this in a 1937 Western Auto catalog.
I have the missing smallest wrench coming from an ebay seller. I doubt that I’ll ever find the original tapered screw and special nut that holds them together.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

Here is the completed set with the smallest Pat. Pend wrench added. I saw a set on eBay that included the original tapered screw but someone else wanted it more than I did, apparently.
-Don
I found this 1941 ISN 27 controlled steel wrench at a tool sale yesterday.

 

[rustyzman]

Pic of my only one. I painted it to give to a relative to use as the general purpose "Just in Case" wrench in the basement of their 1800's house. Bright paint helps to make sure that it is remembered in case it is needed in a hurry.

I figured I would post it up before giving it away.

Nice fit and quality. Much better than many other brands I have seen.

Its a C-12-3

 

[d42jeep]

I found a little Danielson Stillson pipe wrench at a NV garage sale this morning.
-Don

 

[bonneyman]

Nice little Stillson, Don. Very nice.

 

[d42jeep]

Thanks, Bonneyman. Here is a cad plated DOE that came out of the evaporust this morning. I was very careful while cleaning it up. It was likely made in 1940.
-Don

 

[mritchie77]

Thanks, Bonneyman. Here is a cad plated DOE that came out of the evaporust this morning. I was very careful while cleaning it up. It was likely made in 1940.
-Don

Interesting, I have a couple of these (2 or 3). One is cad plated and the others seem bare. I always thought "controlled steel" was their term of using an alloy during wartime because vanadium and moly were controlled and therefore couldn't be used.

Learned something new today.

 

[MisterEd]

This belongs here, too.
Was there a time period for including a Date Code?
J.P. Danielson 6 Inch Stillson-Pattern Wrench Wood Handle No Date Code

 

[d42jeep]

It seems to me that I have a Danielson made Stillson wrench that is dated close to wartime. The date code is right below the lower jaw. MisterEd posted one dated ‘41 upthread.
-Don

 

[MisterEd]

The date code is right below the lower jaw. MisterEd posted one dated ‘41 upthread.

On the one I posted before (#92) the Date Code was on the movable Jaw. The one above (#110) has no Date Code that I can find. Wondered if that was unusual.

 

[d42jeep]

I think most of the pipe wrenches don’t have date codes although I haven’t studied it.

I found what I think might be an early 12” adjustable on Saturday. It was pretty rusty and required some time in the Evaporust after I knocked off the worst of the corrosion. It doesn’t seem to have a date code or Danielson markings but indicates the size of the hex in the broached hole.
-Don
As found
Knocked off some rust.
Dissasembled, cleaned, lubed and reassembled.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I was thrilled to add this flea find to my JPD collection this morning. It's a very small lineman's.

 

[JunkNstuf]

J.P Danielson Waterpumps J4.2

 

[d42jeep]

J.P Danielson Waterpumps J4.2

Nice GMTK correct water pump pliers from 1942. Here are a couple of mine.
-Don

 

[JunkNstuf]

Nice GMTK correct water pump pliers from 1942. Here are a couple of mine.
-Don

Nice pair, Don. Any idea what the Letters before the date code refer to?

 

[d42jeep]

I really only pay attention to the year code. I don’t think that the significance of the first character has been determined. Sometimes the handles are from different years.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I'm not really a "Stanley man," per se, but I am a J.P. Danielson man, and I have to admit I was scratching my head about this 8" No. 1536 Handyman-branded adjustable crescent-type wrench for quite some time today.



It's not old enough for that "X.9.7" date code to refer to 1937 and I didn't think Stanley was even offering tools like adjustable crescent-type wrenches back then, anyway. Conversely, it doesn't look modern enough for that "X.9.7" date code to refer to 1987, theoretically made by Stanley Proto Industrial Tools, the conglomeration that occurred when Stanley acquired the Proto Division from Ingersol-Rand in 1984. So I did some snooping on IA/ITCL.

The earliest Stanley catalog I can find with what they called an "Angle Wrench" is 1960.



It appears in the 1969, 1971, and 1974 catalogs as well, more or less looking very familiar.



Which leads me to conclude that PTII and Ingersoll-Rand in turn were supplying adjustables to Stanley long before Stanley acquired the whole company.

I don't pay too much attention to hand tools after the 50's, but that makes sense, right?

 

[d42jeep]

Makes sense to me. The clues are the reinforced hanging hole which Proto LA and early Proto Mfd wrenches didn’t have. Later Mfd and newer had reinforced hanging holes.
Does the hole for the screw go all the way through the wrench?
-Don