I found the Fenix adjustment to be finicky. The Zebralight's adjustment is smoother, and infinite, and sturdy. OP stated he wanted a simple interface, doubt he cares about a red light.
Then, what, exactly, is nonsense???
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I found the Fenix adjustment to be finicky. The Zebralight's adjustment is smoother, and infinite, and sturdy. OP stated he wanted a simple interface, doubt he cares about a red light.
Then, what, exactly, is nonsense???
pizza
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zebralight h600c is the best headlamp available today imo (or the floody version (h600fc) if you exclusively do close up work)
problem is...
OP would need a way to charge 18650s though
also would need to program it to make it less complex (he specified only a couple brightness levels)
so idk
problem is...
OP would need a way to charge 18650s though
also would need to program it to make it less complex (he specified only a couple brightness levels)
so idk
I think it comes out of the box with just high, medium, & low, IIRC. It is programmable many different ways though. I have both floody and non floody versions, I use the floody for the majority of my work (close up).
OK, I just re-read the OP, I took it to mean he wanted rechargeable batteries, not the whole light.
Built in charger is also worth mentioning.I found the Fenix adjustment to be finicky. The Zebralight's adjustment is smoother, and infinite, and sturdy. OP stated he wanted a simple interface, doubt he cares about a red light.
Then, what, exactly, is nonsense???
Yup, it does have that.
kppolich
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This Petzl is what you want
Most of them have six levels, all three main levels have a sub level with a quick double click.
Expensive for the output, battery size and plastic construction. The OP should have specified a budget. The recommendations in this thread range from about $20 to about $90.
jrsavoie
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Which have the most lumens?
What are the red and green lights for?
This is. 600 lumens
What are the red and green lights for?
This is. 600 lumens
The 35$ Wurkkos has a 1300 lumen spotlight and a 700 lumen flood light. It can also be adjusted to lower brightness because you don't want it to constantly blind you. It's also all aluminum and uses a proper 21700 battery. Also, the floodlight uses a 90 CRI emitter (color rendering index) so you actually see the correct colors. The Petzl does not even specify it. 100CRI is what an incandescent light has, but many LED lamps have horrible blue light that makes it hard to recognize what you are seeing.
It's something you don't even know how important it is with a quality light until you see it side by side. It's why an old incandescent Maglite with 40-60 Lumens sometimes looks way better than much brighter cheap LED flashlights.
IMO that Petzl seems terribly overpriced
JRC3
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I'd assume the red is for joggers and such. Green?
I have this beast of a bike taillight. It keeps me safe. https://www.niterider.com/products/solas-250
I also run these for bike headlights, two on my road bike. One helmet mount and one handlebar on my mountain bike. They do come with straps for head wearing. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08M5RMMXQ/?tag=atomicindus08-20
redragoon
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I'm partial to the Black Diamond Headlamps. I have a Astro and a few Cosmo models. They all run on AAA so if it dies, I just chuck some more in. Don't have to hunt for a cable to recharge.
Cosmo is a good camping/general light with spot/flood/red beams. Waterproof, dimming, and can lock the buttons if putting in a bag.
The Astro stays in the toolbox. Only has 1 button and a dimming function. Also remembers the brightness setting when turned off.
The dimming comes in handy when staring at a lot of reflective metal surfaces.
Their Ion seems to have all the same features of the Cosmo in a smaller package with lower specs. REI has it for $17 now.
https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/product/155352/black-diamond-ion-headlamp
Cosmo is a good camping/general light with spot/flood/red beams. Waterproof, dimming, and can lock the buttons if putting in a bag.
The Astro stays in the toolbox. Only has 1 button and a dimming function. Also remembers the brightness setting when turned off.
The dimming comes in handy when staring at a lot of reflective metal surfaces.
Their Ion seems to have all the same features of the Cosmo in a smaller package with lower specs. REI has it for $17 now.
https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/product/155352/black-diamond-ion-headlamp
Toolfool
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I hate having stuff on my head. Hats, glasses, lights. I recently bought one of these https://odelfi.com/ . I forget I have it on, and it gives me plenty of light without having to keep re-aiming my head.
jrsavoie
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Is that a flashlight or a headlamp?The 35$ Wurkkos has a 1300 lumen spotlight and a 700 lumen flood light. It can also be adjusted to lower brightness because you don't want it to constantly blind you. It's also all aluminum and uses a proper 21700 battery. Also, the floodlight uses a 90 CRI emitter (color rendering index) so you actually see the correct colors. The Petzl does not even specify it. 100CRI is what an incandescent light has, but many LED lamps have horrible blue light that makes it hard to recognize what you are seeing.
It's something you don't even know how important it is with a quality light until you see it side by side. It's why an old incandescent Maglite with 40-60 Lumens sometimes looks way better than much brighter cheap LED flashlights.
IMO that Petzl seems terribly overpriced
If it's a headlamp, could you post a link?
All I found was flashlights.
I didn't see how to attach them to the bill of a cap.
You use a headband. On aliexpress Wurkkos sells it together with their headband. You can use aftermarket ones too, since the diameters are pretty standard. For example it should fit the Skilhunt HB03 headband.
And here's a guy with the Wurkkos HD20 on his head, with the OEM headband.
It's a lot of flashlight for a head lamp though. If you want a slimmer one, there's also the HD15 which fits a 18650 cell (most common lithium ion cell used in everything from power tools to electric cars...). Since that's also quite long, the HD15 comes with a "shorty" tube so you can even use it with a 18350 cell - same diameter as 18650 but way shorter. That's way more manageable though I think the big one gives you way more versatility and isn't that heavy. Nice thing is you still have options - if you want to, you can fit the long tube and use it as a flashlight with a big battery.
jrsavoie
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ThanksYou use a headband. On aliexpress Wurkkos sells it together with their headband. You can use aftermarket ones too, since the diameters are pretty standard. For example it should fit the Skilhunt HB03 headband.
And here's a guy with the Wurkkos HD20 on his head, with the OEM headband.
It's a lot of flashlight for a head lamp though. If you want a slimmer one, there's also the HD15 which fits a 18650 cell (most common lithium ion cell used in everything from power tools to electric cars...). Since that's also quite long, the HD15 comes with a "shorty" tube so you can even use it with a 18350 cell - same diameter as 18650 but way shorter. That's way more manageable though I think the big one gives you way more versatility and isn't that heavy. Nice thing is you still have options - if you want to, you can fit the long tube and use it as a flashlight with a big battery.
Not sure about green. But red is used for low light at night, where you want to be able so see stuff but better protect your own night vision.
Example, I use a red light when taking photos of stars at night. I can see the camera settings to make adjustments, but it's not so bright that I lose the stars.
NWOhioChevyGuy
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Green would be used for hunting commonly. As deer cannot see it.
Another use for Red is when hiking in a group, if your way off the "grid" a white headlight will blind someone when you walk up on them. Common to use a red headlight.
Another use for Red is when hiking in a group, if your way off the "grid" a white headlight will blind someone when you walk up on them. Common to use a red headlight.
RTM
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Some sailors used to use them to read charts at night, for the same reasons. First saw one as a teenager off the SoCal coast, forget who I was with.
I use them for photo and star gazing, but also for certain camping type chores in the dark, as noted above.
mbunimog
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Here is a pic of mine. Fully adjustable for up to 1000 lumens and also adjustable for focus for flood and spot light. A red light in the back increase safety on roads. Great for walking etc and the rechargeable battery is large and last a long time. Use a smaller one for car repairs but this is my preferred light. The bulk does not concern
me except in close quarter work
me except in close quarter workI was given this one by K&E Gear, and it is nice. Comfortable band, two sets of lights, multiple intensity settings, and a focusing ring for precise work. Perfect for illuminating deep dark tools bins leaving both hands free to dig for treasure!
Beware of high lumens. There's such a thing as too bright. I have one that's so bright I can't even use it. To each his own, but I'll take medium lumen, warm, floody over high lumen any day. However it all depends on your usage.
^^^^ agreed, however typically its CRI that is the culprit of "to many lumens"
The 35$ Wurkkos has a 1300 lumen spotlight and a 700 lumen flood light. It can also be adjusted to lower brightness because you don't want it to constantly blind you. It's also all aluminum and uses a proper 21700 battery. Also, the floodlight uses a 90 CRI emitter (color rendering index) so you actually see the correct colors. The Petzl does not even specify it. 100CRI is what an incandescent light has, but many LED lamps have horrible blue light that makes it hard to recognize what you are seeing.
It's something you don't even know how important it is with a quality light until you see it side by side. It's why an old incandescent Maglite with 40-60 Lumens sometimes looks way better than much brighter cheap LED flashlights.
IMO that Petzl seems terribly overpriced
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NFH2740
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Milwaukee Rover.
What about a headband that holds a minimag?
sparky 1971
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I have two of these for work. When the battery dies on one I put the other on. While they don't have high/low, they do have a dimmer and adjustable beam width.
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madison069
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Got these last month. Simple deal, one button is for continuous on and other button for motion on and off if you desire. I just use continuous on and first click is high, second is low, and you just hold the button down til it turns off. I’ve only had them for a month but I can’t complain too much about them at $20 for 2 of them. I usually charge one while I’m using the other one.
For anybody that uses this style of headlamp, how do you like it? How is the light output in relation to using it to work on cars, equipment, etc.? Like inside a car under the dash, or up on a lift, engine bay, etc. Is it better having a wide light field and a spot light on the side?
My current headlamp is old and the headband has lost its strectch. It uses 3-aaa batteries that are a pain to remove to charge. The battery pack is on the back of your head and overall is sorta heavy. It works well for the lighting part.
I really like that general type of light. I don't like that specific model as well as the one's I linked above. The problem with that model vs the one I bought (I also have one of that model) is the part on your foreheads gets just a bit warm. Not bad but just a bit. It also isn't as bright. I do like the controls better.
So having used both I don't prefer that version but it's not bad and both have that wide, no shadow benefit. They are also cheap enough that you can use them and not worry if they get damaged.
I got one when I first start working in the automotive shop because of the hype, but I was never really that impressed with it.
Thing is not everyone wants/likes a right angle type light, especially for a headtorch. I personally have never cared for anything ZL makes and apparently (from tons of complaints) their customer service is a joke at best. FWIW I've been using various Fenix lights for all sorts of uses daily for going on 10 yrs now and have yet to have a single issue with any of them. Their headtorches are by far the best I've used and seriously recommend the HM65R.I found the Fenix adjustment to be finicky. The Zebralight's adjustment is smoother, and infinite, and sturdy. OP stated he wanted a simple interface, doubt he cares about a red light.
Then, what, exactly, is nonsense???
Just for giggles I ordered one of these. I have only used it a bit in the garage and surprisingly I like it. Far too many modes, comfortable, Once a mode is set can be turned off using the motion sensor. Motion sensor is a bit touchy and can turn light off when doing something, not enough use to determine battery life.
https://www.temu.com/goods.html?_bg..._1674732705440_bfdsnft4ot&refer_page_sn=10009
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