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FatFenderBowTie
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Thought with all the snow lately I would be tired of seeing white....NOT!
Let the games begin...30' x 45'
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FatFenderBowTie
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blowing it in...like snow...LOL 
Stuntmonkey
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lol with the snow on the ground it looks like a gigantic meat freezer now!!
IONH
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Thanks for the estimate!
sids04
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It looks like the extension cords will be running out there by the end of the week !
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Yeppirs 
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Very nice. You should have a nice bright work space in there.
well it looks like i guessed right! i figured you would tin the interior. nice! i have always liked the way it looks but been afraid it would echo too much. time to get shoveling 8)
by the look of that nailer next to the overhead opening it looks like you're going to use a wall mounted opener. good choice! especially with a lift going in
by the look of that nailer next to the overhead opening it looks like you're going to use a wall mounted opener. good choice! especially with a lift going in
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FatFenderBowTie
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Was 3 guys, started at 7:30, done by 2....having scissor lifts, telescopic forklifts and pneumatic tools really make a difference! But still, I am amazed at how fast they were even with all the fancy equipment.
cwolfley
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curious, no electrical runs for outlets and lights? you will be kickin yourself later... whats your plans?
IONH
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Could just run some conduit everywhere. The garage is so big that it probably wouldn't be an issue to lose a little bit of wall depth.
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cwolfley don't you know in Canada we use dog sled power for everything?? LOL
Will all be surface mount conduit like IONH suggested. Easier to run, great for making any alterations as required as plans/equipment changes....unlike in wall wiring where you have to rip everything apart to make any changes.
Will all be surface mount conduit like IONH suggested. Easier to run, great for making any alterations as required as plans/equipment changes....unlike in wall wiring where you have to rip everything apart to make any changes.
NASTYZEN
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Wow!!Looking awesome!That went up in record time.Being Canadian my first thought was indoor hockey rink for this winter.
I ran my shop off an extension cord for over a year.Just use a heavy duty wire,no problem.
Looking at your trusses I find the spacing a little wide.In my area, max distance allowed between trusses is 24in.How much snow average do you get out there?Two years ago we had well over 5ft. of the white stuff and all kinds of roofs caved in even with our building code.
I ran my shop off an extension cord for over a year.Just use a heavy duty wire,no problem.
Looking at your trusses I find the spacing a little wide.In my area, max distance allowed between trusses is 24in.How much snow average do you get out there?Two years ago we had well over 5ft. of the white stuff and all kinds of roofs caved in even with our building code.
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FatFenderBowTie
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Not worried about the trusses...plans were passed by an engineer from Winnipeg, passed by the local inspector, all 3 site inspections passed. We do get a fair amount of snow here but like you said, even buildings built to your code collapsed with snow there...you can't plan for everything!
As I said in an earlier post, I had 2 U.S. companies send my plans which were engineer stamped for their area (North Dakota/Minnesota), and they had 2 less trusses than I have. They get just as much, if not more snow, and they are in tornado area to boot!
As I said in an earlier post, I had 2 U.S. companies send my plans which were engineer stamped for their area (North Dakota/Minnesota), and they had 2 less trusses than I have. They get just as much, if not more snow, and they are in tornado area to boot!
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OK, this is officially the COLDEST thread so far. Like stunt monkey stated it’s a huge meat locker!
Very nice build, really enjoy the photos so far. Now off to drink a drink to warm me up.
Very nice build, really enjoy the photos so far. Now off to drink a drink to warm me up.
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Other than delays, a few small mistakes by the builders/contracting company, and more delays no real news....
Called the salesman from the company I purchased the package from on Monday of last week to point out there was no window sent for my passage door, and asked if it could be sent out with the vapor barrier and insulation...he never replied, and it wasn't sent out. Called again on Friday to ask when the insulation for the attic and overhead door was going to be done, and asked again about the window...no reply again.
The insulation company came yesterday (did not know they were coming, except their office called me at 8 AM to ask for specific directions, no call from the salesman/contracting company) to blow in the attic, they went up to get ready to blow in, and found the soffit stops were installed incorrectly (not deep enough for R40+) and the barrier around the man way was also too shallow. here was also supposed to be a gangplank run between the trusses for them to walk on while they blow in...it wasn't done...so they left.
The site foreman (who I never actually saw during the build) showed up unannounced a few hours later to drop off the supplies to fix the issues, he asked how I felt the build was going...I think he was sorry he asked. I told him the information above, he looked really upset, and said he will contact the salesman right away.
Less than an hour later I got a call from the salesman, said I wasn't supposed to get a window for the passage door, the insulation people should have started anyway, they blow in attics like that all the time, and they and the overhead door company are both coming tomorrow (today now). I argued the window fact (which I am now getting) and also said it would have been nice to have a phone call returned last week and to be forewarned when people were coming....nothing was said as a reply.
So now, almost noon, and no trades are here....was thinking of calling the salesman, but figure there is no point, I'll just wait it out.
Aren't you glad you asked...LOL!
Called the salesman from the company I purchased the package from on Monday of last week to point out there was no window sent for my passage door, and asked if it could be sent out with the vapor barrier and insulation...he never replied, and it wasn't sent out. Called again on Friday to ask when the insulation for the attic and overhead door was going to be done, and asked again about the window...no reply again.
The insulation company came yesterday (did not know they were coming, except their office called me at 8 AM to ask for specific directions, no call from the salesman/contracting company) to blow in the attic, they went up to get ready to blow in, and found the soffit stops were installed incorrectly (not deep enough for R40+) and the barrier around the man way was also too shallow. here was also supposed to be a gangplank run between the trusses for them to walk on while they blow in...it wasn't done...so they left.
The site foreman (who I never actually saw during the build) showed up unannounced a few hours later to drop off the supplies to fix the issues, he asked how I felt the build was going...I think he was sorry he asked. I told him the information above, he looked really upset, and said he will contact the salesman right away.
Less than an hour later I got a call from the salesman, said I wasn't supposed to get a window for the passage door, the insulation people should have started anyway, they blow in attics like that all the time, and they and the overhead door company are both coming tomorrow (today now). I argued the window fact (which I am now getting) and also said it would have been nice to have a phone call returned last week and to be forewarned when people were coming....nothing was said as a reply.
So now, almost noon, and no trades are here....was thinking of calling the salesman, but figure there is no point, I'll just wait it out.
Aren't you glad you asked...LOL!
IONH
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I sure hope one of the condition for the package was not payment prior to work! They are sounding a little sketchy as of late.
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There is a final payment required at the completion of build...I think I'll let them call me at least two times (with no reply) requesting payment prior to sending it in...LOL Then maybe I'll forget to sign the cheque....
Then maybe I'll forget to sign the cheque....IONH
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There is a final payment required at the completion of build...I think I'll let them call me at least two times (with no reply) requesting payment prior to sending it in...LOL
Can you share the percentage of the hold back?
Zengineer
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10% holdback is pretty standard. While it doesn't sound like much, usually its the difference between losing money on the job/project and making profit. You'd be surprised just how important that last 10% is.
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Last payment is closer to 25%...plenty enough to do the door and attic insulation myself if it comes to it!
IONH
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Awesome news! Keep us posted.
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Well called the salesman again today as I was told on Monday the insulation and overhead door companies were to show up Tuesday, neither did, he said the insulation company was supposed to be here first thing this morning, but they did show up around 11 and said repairs were done well...did their job in just over 2 hours, very professional and cleaned up everything after they were done.
Apparently the overhead door company is coming either tomorrow or Saturday.
Still no mention as to when the window is coming.
He also said during our conversation he had an appointment in the area and asked if I would mind him coming by to see the progress, I said no problem...he never showed...LOL.
Apparently the overhead door company is coming either tomorrow or Saturday.
Still no mention as to when the window is coming.
He also said during our conversation he had an appointment in the area and asked if I would mind him coming by to see the progress, I said no problem...he never showed...LOL.
Nighttrain
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Well don't let these bozos get you down. You have a great garage and will soon forget the headaches they have caused. Just hold onto that 25% tell it's all done.
That's really gotta piss you off. Makes me glad I did my own build. I don't deal well with that kind of BS.
HURRY UP AND WAIT!!!!! i love playin that game! matter of fact, i'm playin it right now. the guy was supposed to be here 3 hours ago. you know once and a while we might have other $#it to do! LOL well one thing is for sure, acting as my own general on my build has given me a new found respect for contractors. lots of headaches
hang in there man! it will be worth it in the end
hang in there man! it will be worth it in the end
sids04
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Contractors in general are the worst businessmen ever.
bighammer
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Your job may be the biggest project of your life is most likely only one of several the contractor is working at any given time. Having been the son and grandson of capenters/contractors and with a brother that's one now there's a difference in the issues you see and what they see. Take a deep breath I'm sure all will work out in the end if the contractor is honest and above board. A little delay here and there will may you enjoy it even more when it's done. Kinda like Christmas.
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Well guess who didn't show yesterday or today....
Had a quote from a third party for the door when I was getting the original pricing done, was cheaper than what this company quoted by about $500, but decided to order it all from the same place as it would save dealing with separate installers/contractors.
I think I may have made the wrong decision...and possibly a phone call on Monday explaining this may shake things up a little.
Had a quote from a third party for the door when I was getting the original pricing done, was cheaper than what this company quoted by about $500, but decided to order it all from the same place as it would save dealing with separate installers/contractors.
I think I may have made the wrong decision...and possibly a phone call on Monday explaining this may shake things up a little.
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Phoned Monday asking what happened, the salesman passed it off that the site supervisor should have phoned me as the installers for the overhead door company all came down with the flu and didn't go in on Friday or Saturday and they all called in sick Monday AM too, but assured me that they were coming Tuesday (today) and I was first on their list of installs......
Well no one showed up and no call saying they weren't coming.
Well no one showed up and no call saying they weren't coming.
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I feel your pain. I went through this to get a builder,no replies from 3 of them. Hang in there.
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Funny thing...went to go out for dinner last night...wife gets home at 4, we left at 5, went to open the door and an envelope drops out from the contracting company saying now the installers are coming Friday.
What was in the envelope you ask? My final bill! Stating final monies is owing as soon as door is installed.
They are sure quick to bill but not too quick with customer service.
What was in the envelope you ask? My final bill! Stating final monies is owing as soon as door is installed.
They are sure quick to bill but not too quick with customer service.
IONH
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Aren't they all that way though?!
Hope you post about them on some contractor review site to help warn others.
hidollartoys
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Got to love those "low bidders".
NASTYZEN
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What was in the envelope you ask? My final bill! Stating final monies is owing as soon as door is installed.
They are sure quick to bill but not too quick with customer service.[/QUOTE]
Make sure you put that final payment in an envelope with there final bill and mail it on a late Friday and omit signing it.When they ask for it(whenever they show up)just show them your check stub as proof you sent it.Then you could give them all kinds of excuses for some time.Pay them when you figure you've wasted enough of there time and gas.LOL
They are sure quick to bill but not too quick with customer service.[/QUOTE]
Make sure you put that final payment in an envelope with there final bill and mail it on a late Friday and omit signing it.When they ask for it(whenever they show up)just show them your check stub as proof you sent it.Then you could give them all kinds of excuses for some time.Pay them when you figure you've wasted enough of there time and gas.LOL
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The problem is they are one of the larger local companies and far from a low bidder.
I find that bigger isn't always better, they don't care about you because they know there is 2 more behind you, Once they establish their business they know they can just about get away with anything. the smaller guy will do a better job in order to make you happy and hope you spread the word about him .