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I just finished cleaning up this Keen Kutter Tommy hatchet I picked up a week or so ago. I had to E-tank it , it was pretty rough. I put a new razor sharp edge on it and a nice coat of BLO. I'm gona wait on hanging it for now.
 

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Found this hatchet buried in my older tools drawer.

Cool head and handle but needs work.


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Found this one on a shelve in my shop. Has it been posted yet? Called True American, by the Mannedge Tool Co. Lewistown, PA.
 

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I just finished cleaning up this Keen Kutter Tommy hatchet I picked up a week or so ago. I had to E-tank it , it was pretty rough. I put a new razor sharp edge on it and a nice coat of BLO. I'm gona wait on hanging it for now.

Wow! That has a great logo- surprised it survived as well as it did given the pitting on the blade. Nice looking edge as well- smooth and I'll bet as sharp as you say! :thumbup:
 
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I'm going to try to get caught up on some of my edged tools . I've been busy with work and not leaving me much time for play. I have several axe's and hatchets to post and will try to get them all on today.
The first one up is one I picked a month or so ago that I couldn't find anything one it as far as markings. I picked it up from a small town antique store for 2 bucks. After a day in the E-Tank I was very surprised at what I found as far as markings. It turned out to be well over 100 years old and the maker of this Michigan / Crown Style double bit axe is (GW) Gilbert White ! It's marked GW Stubbs & Twist Warranted on one end. On the other end it get more curious. There are 3 numbers marked on it 666 or 999.... Above the number is the remains of another marking but it's just to worn to make out. I have no idea the meaning of the numbers. 6 66 or 9 99 being a date code? No clue.:headscrat The construction of the axe has forged in hardened steel bits. that still have a very sharp edge. I thought that to be amazing in it's self.
 

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Wow! That has a great logo- surprised it survived as well as it did given the pitting on the blade. Nice looking edge as well- smooth and I'll bet as sharp as you say! :thumbup:

I was surprised too. I see these a lot that have one side of the claw always broken... at least this one didn't have that issue.
 

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That's interesting Top. I can't recall seeing an inlaid hardened edge on a full sized Ax, certainly not on a double bit. Nice find! is the 666 as seen "upright"?
 
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Last fall my wife and I purchased a run down piece of property and it's very over grown. I picked up an old Adze to help clean up some of the over growth and cut through some roots on stumps I have to dig out. I noticed some stamping on the head of the adze and thought I would clean it up a bit to check it out. Gave it an E bath for about 12 hours and the marking became very clear. It didn't take long to research it and find out about the maker. Needless to say after my discovery I choose a different tool for the task at hand.
The maker turned out to be a blacksmith that lived from 1802-1860. The adze was made between 1834 and 1860. He was a maker of all sorts of edge tools. He made a very high grade of tool that became in high demand for his locating of Cohoes Ny. The blacksmiths name was Daniel Simmons. His forged in hardened bits were the reason for his success . I tried to sharpen this adze with a mill ******* file and it wouldn't even scratch the bit. I have seen this before but not in anything this old. It's very impressive work.
The only bad thing about this adze is that after the E bath a small crack showed up in the corner of the eye. I can't see it on the inside but it's there on the outside. It could be a fold or wrinkle from the blacksmithing where the tang joins the eye.:dunno: The crack only runs about a 1/2" of the 2-1/4" of the eye if it is a crack.
Either way crack or not I'm glad I cleaned it up and saved it .
 

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That's interesting Top. I can't recall seeing an inlaid hardened edge on a full sized Ax, certainly not on a double bit. Nice find! is the 666 as seen "upright"?

the numbers read from the opposite side of the GW logo. from looking from the bit it reads 666 . From the side of the logo it reads 999 .
 
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This is my replacement tool for the D.Simmons Adze. It's an unbranded No. 22 size cutter mattocks . I went ahead and E tanked this one also .... just incase lol. This won't do as good as job as the adze because it will require sharpening more often but it will get the job done!
 

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Here's a few pics of my Stub & Twist, G White falling axe. 13 3/4" wide with a 41 1/4" handle. I keep a couple of the brass Mallory undercutters hanging on it.
 

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From a sale last weekend I picked up this pair of hewing hatchets. They were both covered in heavy rust and well pitted. The smaller one with the octagon hammer head was mushroomed pretty bad.
The larger one is a True Temper Flint Edge. It had never been sharpened or even used much. It does look like it spent the majority of it's life on the barn floor though. I was impressed it cleaned up this well and still had a readable logo. The edge however will never be a clean straight bit because of the pitting on the flat side of this hewing chopper. I was able to put a sharp edge on it and it did polish up nice. It will still do a fine job as intended to.
The smaller hewing hatchet suffered from the same pitting and problems with the bit but cleaned up the same as the True Temper. I had to grind off the mushrooming of the hammer head and I think it turned out pretty nice. The thing I noticed about this lil'guy is that the metal seemed soft. Hence the mushrooming . while sharpening the bit my mill ******* file made very quick work of the edge. knowing this wouldn't ever hold a good bit I decided to play with it a "bit" . I set up a quenching tank an thought I would try to harden this bit . I don't have a forge(yet) so I hooked up a rose bud and threw some serious heat to it. Getting it very cherry , I dipped it in the quenching tank. After it cooled I finished sharpening the bit. It did get much harder so I think it will help this dude last a "BIT" longer!
 

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Here's a few pics of my Stub & Twist, G White falling axe. 13 3/4" wide with a 41 1/4" handle. I keep a couple of the brass Mallory undercutters hanging on it.

Very nice! While doing the research on my axe I seen ones like yours. :drool:. Can you tell me the purpose of the undercutters?
 
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Here's a few pics of my Stub & Twist, G White falling axe. 13 3/4" wide with a 41 1/4" handle. I keep a couple of the brass Mallory undercutters hanging on it.

On the opposite end of the logo of your falling axe is there any other marking like this one of mine???
 

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Top, thats a cool find on the adze. for the crack, if you carefully get some penetrating oil on the outside it might show any crack in the inside in the "dry" rust/crud.

Afterwards, I'd use a toothbrush sized wire brush inside there, regardless of the result of the "soak test"
 

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On the opposite end of the logo of your falling axe is there any other marking like this one of mine???

No Numbers. There is another small round maker's mark with basically the same information as the other mark.
 

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Very nice! While doing the research on my axe I seen ones like yours. :drool:. Can you tell me the purpose of the undercutters?

Undercutters (used one at a time) support the back edge of the saw blade when you buck up a log (from the bottom) after falling a tree.
Those in the picture are pocket undercutters that clamp on the axe handle when in use. Highly sought after by collectors.
There are also larger undercutters that you drive into the tree, then use the roller to support the saw. The big ones were heavier to carry around in the woods.
This one has never been used.
 

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Undercutters (used one at a time) support the back edge of the saw blade when you buck up a log (from the bottom) after falling a tree.
Those in the picture are pocket undercutters that clamp on the axe handle when in use. Highly sought after by collectors.
There are also larger undercutters that you drive into the tree, then use the roller to support the saw. The big ones were heavier to carry around in the woods.
This one has never been used.

Hey that's great info. Thanks!
 
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Found this hatchet buried in my older tools drawer.

Cool head and handle but needs work.


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DD are there any markings on this hatchet head of yours? I just posted one that looks identical to this but the one I posted is very pitted and no maker marks were present?
 

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DD are there any markings on this hatchet head of yours? I just posted one that looks identical to this but the one I posted is very pitted and no maker marks were present?


I will check in the morning for you. I didn't look real hard at it.


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Top, thats a cool find on the adze. for the crack, if you carefully get some penetrating oil on the outside it might show any crack in the inside in the "dry" rust/crud.

Afterwards, I'd use a toothbrush sized wire brush inside there, regardless of the result of the "soak test"

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Thanks ! :thumbup: So they put a logo at each end??

My axe expert says they put both marks on only some of the heads. That small round mark is hard to see, so it may have been earlier. Then they went to the bigger mark.

Maybe this was an overlap type of thing where they went back & restamped the bigger mark on axes already done.
 
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My axe expert says they put both marks on only some of the heads. That small round mark is hard to see, so it may have been earlier. Then they went to the bigger mark.

Maybe this was an overlap type of thing where they went back & restamped the bigger mark on axes already done.

That could be??? Mine had both as well . The one at the same end as the number is very faint. I'm still at a loss on the numbers :dunno:
 

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That could be??? Mine had both as well . The one at the same end as the number is very faint. I'm still at a loss on the numbers :dunno:

I see axes with numbers around here regularly. Seems like 652 is common. The general consensus is that that is an owner marking by one of the timber companies, like Weyerhauser that were big in this area. There were a lot of logging camps, and this would designate where the axe belonged.
 

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I believe the 666 means forged in Hell. And who do you suppose made it then? Could it be SATAN!!! Well isn't that SPECIAL. Mike

Quote: the numbers read from the opposite side of the GW logo. from looking from the bit it reads 666 . From the side of the logo it reads 999 .
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I believe the 666 means forged in Hell. And who do you suppose made it then? Could it be SATAN!!! Well isn't that SPECIAL. Mike

Quote: the numbers read from the opposite side of the GW logo. from looking from the bit it reads 666 . From the side of the logo it reads 999 .
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One guys suggested it was the owners mark. When I asked him what kind of person would use that mark he replied 'one that was tired of his tools wondering off "... No longer really matters. It has a new home.
 

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I agree, the logging camp "owners marking" seems the most likely...


Anyone else read this thread as "Lets see your asses" in Email notification? :scared:

I either need new glasses, need to clean em, or need to change my Email font... :bounce:
 

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I have quite a collection or restored and soon to be restored. I also like to make kydex sheathes for my users as well. I do not have to worry about them as much as i do the leather covers. The kydex also protects the entire head from damage while in transport.
 

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I have quite a collection or restored and soon to be restored. I also like to make kydex sheathes for my users as well. I do not have to worry about them as much as i do the leather covers. The kydex also protects the entire head from damage while in transport.

Very nice photo! do you make your own handle? The second from the right ... What is THAT!:drool:!!!
 
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I agree, the logging camp "owners marking" seems the most likely...


Anyone else read this thread as "Lets see your asses" in Email notification? :scared:

I either need new glasses, need to clean em, or need to change my Email font... :bounce:

I keep my screen at 125% outlaw... And still turn it up more from some pictures.
 

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I read the thread as "let's see your exes". Thought we were gonna see a soon to be banned thread of revenge posting of exes.

The axes I keep looking for are those marked USFS. I know they are more common out west that in the southeastern United States.
 
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That my friend is an old and very big craftsman. I wonder who manufactured it for them.

I really don't know who made them for Craftsman but that sir is a very nice set. Love the handle. The double hard bit is out standing... 1930's? I bet it holds an edge!
 
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