Because I am curious and because I like upgrades, what chains do people like for cutting up red/white oak? I've got the safety chain that came with my MS250, and am looking for something more aggressive. I feel as though I go above and beyond to be safe while cutting, and think a little more aggressive chain might be ok.
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Why the hell they have so many of them is beyond me. I'm not a pro but the last couple I bought were the RSK, they work just fine as I'm sure all the others Stihl sells do.
https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/saw-chains/rsk/
Yeah I would interested to learn more about why they sell so many types. I had a dream last night that a storm went through and people needed help cleaning up their trees. I was so excited and in the dream I had a new chain to use for my saw!
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freudianfloyd
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I picked up three old Homelites the other day, and finally got these two running last night. The Super XL runs extremely well after putting in a new fuel line and rebuilding the carb. The little Super 2 needed a carb rebuild, new seals, new fuel and oil lines, and a clutch drum bearing.
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Yesterday I stepped up my chainsaw organization game.
My old method was full and took up way too much space and looked ugly and out of place. I had to keep adding new "trees" to handle all of my saws and it looked like this.
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After trying to get a vehicle in my garage to work on it and not having room to walk around it, I decided to redesign the entire thing and made myself a "Great Wall of Saws"
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It takes up less space, it's not blocking my garage door, and my weed-eaters can hang off the backside between the bars.
If I get more saws though, I will have to make a second one, but there is room for one, so its not a big deal.
My old method was full and took up way too much space and looked ugly and out of place. I had to keep adding new "trees" to handle all of my saws and it looked like this.
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After trying to get a vehicle in my garage to work on it and not having room to walk around it, I decided to redesign the entire thing and made myself a "Great Wall of Saws"
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It takes up less space, it's not blocking my garage door, and my weed-eaters can hang off the backside between the bars.
If I get more saws though, I will have to make a second one, but there is room for one, so its not a big deal.
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Looks good. Nice Dolmars (Makita) I never see them for sale in my area, one day maybe I can add some teal to my wall.
Great thread, very interesting!
Here are mine:
Poulan Super 25DA circa 1978
Stihl MS280 from 2007/2008
Both run well.
The Poulan's fuel cap's threads got buggered and it will not seal. I've looked online for a replacement, but apparently they are no longer available. Anyone got a lead on one (or two)?
Here are mine:
Poulan Super 25DA circa 1978
Stihl MS280 from 2007/2008
Both run well.
The Poulan's fuel cap's threads got buggered and it will not seal. I've looked online for a replacement, but apparently they are no longer available. Anyone got a lead on one (or two)?
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What is it you using as the counterbalance for your saw tree?
Bigblockyeti
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Just another 2x4 leg running perpendicular to the one that can be seen. This effectively forms a triangle support on the floor within the CG of all chainsaws fall. I made it only a little bigger than it needs to be, it was really just a proof of concept made with **** I had laying around but worked well enough I see no need to make a nicer one.
Gee, how have I missed this thread before. I have 19 pages to read and grab a few photos.
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I was talking about the big red object at the base of your structure.
That's a big ole Homelite 500, it's detailed in post 192. It was mounted inboard of the leg to keep it as low as possible, both for stability and fitting as many saws as possible, there's only 1/2" at the most between each saw.
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I had read that post and didn't put two and two together. I am going to do some more ciphering and see if there is a way I can facilitate a chain saw tree by integrated it into my pallet rack upright post. My first thought was ruled out when I took a look.....
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freudianfloyd
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Get to posting, there is no cooler tool than a chainsaw!
kgorman
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Love my 261.. I suspect lots of folks don’t sharpen their chain well, and probably over bar.
thr3squared
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Hope this isn't a stupid question - what do you mean by "over bar"?
bob15
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Too big a bar for the engine so it is under-powered, especially when cutting hardwoods such as red oak & locust.
Example: 35-40cc saw with a 16" bar on it or a 45cc saw with a 20" bar on it.
I find the 55-65cc engine is best with a 16" bar
70cc = 20" bar
80cc= 24-28" bar
100cc+ = 32" and up bar
Yes I know people will say I run a 24" bar on a 60cc engine and it cuts so great.....but put a slightly small bar and it will cut circles around it.
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Oh, it is not a stupid question.
redmondjp
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There is no such thing as over bar, if you use your saw properly. I am sitting here with my brand-new Echo CS-361P that I ordered with a 16" bar. It will be used for limbing and thinning in thick underbrush. The longer the bar, the better in this case. Sure, people will say that it runs best with a 12" bar on it, but that's 4" longer that I have to reach out with the saw then.
Watch Buckin' Billy on youtube with his bars. He can walk down a felled tree and limb it w/o having to bend over. That is really important as you get older.
There are a lot of reasons why people use a longer bar, besides to cut bigger wood.
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When I switched my MS290 from a 16" bar to a 20" bar. My back said thank you, thank you, thank you. Cutting that small 2-3" small stuff on the ground killed my back.
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My first saw was a Pullin' (appropriately named). All I ever did was pull and try to start that damn thing. It took a 30-40" flight across the yard. It was given to the neighbor as a parts saw.
I then picked up a Stihl MS 290 Farm Boss with a 16" bar and swapped it over to a 20" several years ago. This saw is about 17-18 years old.
In the mean time, we had one of the department saws die. I bought from the Stihl dealer what he gave us as trade in price $30. It sat for a few years until recently. I bought a rebuilt kit from Saw Again. New crank, rod, piston and cylinder. Agent 044 will live again, some day.
Then came the new saw. I wanted to step up and hadn't bought the rebuild kit yet. I checked out a few HD rental Dolmars to add a big bore kit but nothing worked out. I debated on what saw to buy next. I about bought a MS391 but decided to go a slight bit up the scale to a pro saw.
My newest saw and haven't even got to break it in. Weather broke, parents started a build and I started my addition. It's a MS362 C-m with a 25" bar.
Then came the new saw. I wanted to step up and hadn't bought the rebuild kit yet. I checked out a few HD rental Dolmars to add a big bore kit but nothing worked out. I debated on what saw to buy next. I about bought a MS391 but decided to go a slight bit up the scale to a pro saw.
My newest saw and haven't even got to break it in. Weather broke, parents started a build and I started my addition. It's a MS362 C-m with a 25" bar.
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freudianfloyd
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Bar length typically only becomes a problem when running a long bar completely buried in wood. If just limbing, you are only using a small section of chain at one time so it isn't such an issue.
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you cant go wrong with a Farmboss. The 029 and 290 are my dads go to saws and have been for years.
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freudianfloyd
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be careful, rebuilding saws is highly addictive. Good luck with the 044. I havent run one, but I know they are very desirable.In the mean time, we had one of the department saws die. I bought from the Stihl dealer what he gave us as trade in price $30. It sat for a few years until recently. I bought a rebuilt kit from Saw Again. New crank, rod, piston and cylinder. Agent 044 will live again, some day.
Then came the new saw. I wanted to step up and hadn't bought the rebuild kit yet. I checked out a few HD rental Dolmars to add a big bore kit but nothing worked out. I debated on what saw to buy next. I about bought a MS391 but decided to go a slight bit up the scale to a pro saw.
My newest saw and haven't even got to break it in. Weather broke, parents started a build and I started my addition. It's a MS362 C-m with a 25" bar.
Just used my 261c today. It sure rips!
Don't take this the wrong way, but you should read up on some felling techniques before using it again. Lucky that didn't give you issues.
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Post em up. I unfortunately don't have any but I'm always looking.
I have a 360 and I believe the 360 is rated for up to a 16” bar. If you were to put a 18” or 20”, that in my opinion is what the previous poster was referring to as “overbaring” the saw
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That is a sweet saw ya got there 
My newest saw and haven't even got to break it in. Weather broke, parents started a build and I started my addition. It's a MS362 C-m with a 25" bar.
thr3squared
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Ok thanks for explaining that. I had a feeling it was along those lines.
I can see both sides of the argument that everyone is mentioning here. Yes having the extra reach can be beneficial, but when the bar is buried you can quickly bog down the engine.
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I know. I already have my eye on an older Husky Rescue Saw to bid on.
That is a sweet saw ya got there
Thanks. I'm wanting to use it but too much going on right now.
bob15
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I have some pictures on post # 124
Here are a few Mac 82cc saws, from oldest to newest with new bars on them.
L to R SP80, SP81, PM800, DE80, PM8200
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freudianfloyd
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One of those Mccolluch Super 33s has been on Marketplace for sale for a while. Its a cool looking saw.
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Cool collection
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Just picked up these dirty girls. Paid $100 for the lot. I havent messed with them too much, but did get the little red Homelite dual trigger saw running. They all need a good cleaning.
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