Let's see your Herbrand!

[outofbounds]

Another Herbrand in my drawer thanks to the generosity of one of our fellow GJ members. Many thanks, my friend. And, wouldn't you know it, Herbrand is trending on the forum.

This thing is in near mint condition. A 3/8" drive ratcheting adapter. I don't know how common this type of mechanism is. Most I've seen have some form of toggle switch. This one uses the uppermost plate (the narrower band of knurling) as a rotating switch. It was a bit puzzling at first understanding the mechanism but it actually works very well. Low tooth count of 20 tooth.

Hope you're well too, Lardy! I'll look forward to that post-corona cup of coffee.

 

[Shelbylex]

I got some Herbrand tools which I finally cleaned up (from the 8/30/20 purchase - I am well behind)...
HERBRAND 1/2 drive
1” Short, S-132
13/16 Long, D-26
7/8 Long, D-28
57/64 Long, D-28B
15/16 Long, D-30
1” Long, D-32
Extension 10 1/8” S-28

I doubt I will ever use 57/64 - first one for me. If I remember correctly, it's for Spark Plugs, but I do not remember for which engines...

 

[bonneyman]

Picked up this little late 40's early 50's torpedo-handled beauty at the flea market this morning.

Nice!

 

[ConductorChris]

Hopefully this is of use to someone on here. Herbrand HP-710 Air Hammer parts list.

 

[3baygarage]

The product of a Herbrand bender (double pun intended).

S-18 1/2” flex speeder

and

S-12 1/2” speeder ratchet

I was happy to pick up these pieces.

 

[outofbounds]

The product of a Herbrand bender (double pun intended).

S-18 1/2” flex speeder

and

S-12 1/2” speeder ratchet

I was happy to pick up these pieces.

AWESOME!

 

[Slackmaster G]

Here is a big old herbrand engineer wrench

 

[Fred Knox]

In one of my buried boxes of tools, I recently uncovered these bunch of Herbrand tools that I can not identify. Would any of you know what they are and what they are used for? On the sides, they are engraved:
HERBRAND
MADE IN USA
VAN-CHROME

No. 370 or No. 372

Many Thanks.

 

[MR.X]

Really interesting tool. Go to toolarchives site Herbrand 1940 catalog p.40

 

[Oldtuleguy]

That is interesting

 

[outofbounds]

The first 1/4" drive Herbrand I have stumbled over. M-22 (5-1/2" Extension) and M-516 (1/2" Tall Hex socket)

 

[bonneyman]

The product of a Herbrand bender (double pun intended).

S-18 1/2” flex speeder

and

S-12 1/2” speeder ratchet

I was happy to pick up these pieces.

Man, 3bay, that is a sweet find!

 

[c1504]

I can’t imagine the triangle stuff is that sought after but I had never come across any before these

 

[bonneyman]

I can’t imagine the triangle stuff is that sought after but I had never come across any before these

I've never seen a Herbrand so marked with a triangle in the logo like my Bonney's before.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Some 1/4" stuff

 

[CRTDI]

Some 1/4" stuff

Super nice looking set...

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Thanks! Box looks similar to that awesome carb set you posted, but no special carb stuff.

 

[humber2]

I got some Herbrand tools which I finally cleaned up (from the 8/30/20 purchase - I am well behind)...
HERBRAND 1/2 drive
1” Short, S-132
13/16 Long, D-26
7/8 Long, D-28
57/64 Long, D-28B
15/16 Long, D-30
1” Long, D-32
Extension 10 1/8” S-28

I doubt I will ever use 57/64 - first one for me. If I remember correctly, it's for Spark Plugs, but I do not remember for which engines...

D-28B, the B is for Buick, a super thin one for Spark plugs only.

 

[Ricky Joe]

D-28B, the B is for Buick, a super thin one for Spark plugs only.

Do you know which Buick? My experiences are with the straight eights, which either use the 7/8” or 13/16” sizes.

 

[humber2]

Do you know which Buick? My experiences are with the straight eights, which either use the 7/8” or 13/16” sizes.

Has to be the inline eights as the set was offered in my 1939 Catalog.

I suspect the stated size being 1/64 larger than 7/8 was a decoy to alert the shade tree mechanics that it was thinner and weaker for other uses.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The spark plug socket table in Herbrand catalogs has little symbols next to numerous sockets with annotations below the table.

In 1937 the annotation for the DS-28B (57/64") socket reads: "Extra Thin for Buick."
In 1942 it reads: "Extra Thin for Buick up to and including 1940."
In 1948 it reads: "Extra Thin for Buick, prior to 1938."

So, go figure.

The 5/8" socket (DS-20) annotation reads: "For 1941 10 mm in Buick, Cadillac, Chevy, Packard"
The 13/16" socket (DS-26) annotation reads: "Fits A.C. 10 mm Plugs."
The 7/8" socket (DS-28) has no annotation.

 

[Ricky Joe]

Interesting. I know Snap-On made a special socket for the 7/8” size. I have one dated 1937. The last two Buick engines I did were a 1937 and a 1934. My regular Bonney deep well fit down the tubes just fine. Snap-On number is s9803. I also have the Herbrand 57/64”. I’ve never used it, though I’ve worked on several Buick’s, from a 1929 “K” model to 1947 Roadmaster.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I don't see too many Herbrand socket drive tools around these parts, and 3/8-drive are even scarcer, so I couldn't leave this behind at the flea on Thursday.

 

[leg17]

Managed to put together a set of Herbrand 'shortie' DBE.

 

[outofbounds]

Managed to put together a set of Herbrand 'shortie' DBE.

Terrific looking set there! How many individual acquisitions made that set up?

 

[leg17]

Terrific looking set there! How many individual acquisitions made that set up?

OOB I honestly can't remember. It has taken a few years.
But it is at least five, and probably six. One at a time. Got the last one about a a month ago.

 

[HeelSpur]

First Herbrand tubing cutters I've come across.

DSCF3712 by wvwheaties, on Flickr
DSCF3711 by wvwheaties, on Flickr

 

[LesserSon]

Some Triangle-era metric DOEs I picked up today. 8-19mm. Some chipped chrome. Posing with some close relatives.

 

[Mintgrun]

I brought these pliers home today. AA says they're from the twenties. It wasn't until I got them home that I noticed the Ford name on the inside of the handle. Sorry for the fuzzy photo of that detail.



Tom

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I picked up an 1831 (3/4") "Obstructo" wrench at the flea this morning. Along with the 1825 (1/2") and 1827 (916") Obstructos I have managed to collect in onesy-twosy style over the course of several years, that makes a grand whopping total of three, so I'm slowly half way to a complete if decidedly imperfect set.

Imperfect not only because of the horrible condition of the 1825 and 1827, but because those are prewar "VAN-CHROME" (chromium vanadium) wrenches with the script underline Fremont, O. logo on the 45* heads, the part numbers stamped on the 90* heads, and the sizes stamped on the flip side. Note that the 1831 is a wartime wrench, with all the markings (brand part number, and sizes) marked on the shank on one side of the wrench, a simpler block logo, and that telling "8742" AISI New Emergency triple-alloy (Nickel-Chrome-Moly) steel composition number forged in and proudly proclaiming Herbrand's compliance with WPB steel composition restrictions (low chrome, low nickel, low moly, and no vanadium).

Given the frequency of my finding them, and the old beggars can't be choosers adage, I'll take what I can get!

For a glimpse at a much better partial set, see Jim C.'s in post #9 on page 1.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Snagged this early 1920's "S" wrench at the flea this morning. The milled openings are 11/16" (3/8" U.S.S. bolts and nuts) x 19/32" (5/16" U.S.S. bolts and nuts). The most interesting marking is the model numbering scheme. That's how Williams did it, forging the series number for short flat-shanked "S" wrenches ("66X") on the shank, milling the openings, and then stamping the number for the precise size configuration ("663A") on the minor jawface. I know that the industry eventually coalesced on Williams' part numbers as standards, but this goes well beyond that. In fact, if not for the script logo and the Diamond-H forge mark, I would've guessed this to be Williams, that's how much it looks like a Williams. I'm eager to see what leg17 and HeelSpur have to say about this wrench. I have never seen one before and the earliest catalog available in the public domain is 1937.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Is there a pic?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Sorry. I posted before attaching. Then attached. Guessing you replied in the interim.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I see it now

 

[leg17]

Snagged this early 1920's "S" wrench at the flea this morning. The milled openings are 11/16" (3/8" U.S.S. bolts and nuts) x 19/32" (5/16" U.S.S. bolts and nuts). The most interesting marking is the model numbering scheme. That's how Williams did it, forging the series number for short flat-shanked "S" wrenches ("66X") on the shank, milling the openings, and then stamping the number for the precise size configuration ("663A") on the minor jawface. I know that the industry eventually coalesced on Williams' part numbers as standards, but this goes well beyond that. In fact, if not for the script logo and the Diamond-H forge mark, I would've guessed this to be Williams, that's how much it looks like a Williams. I'm eager to see what leg17 and HeelSpur have to say about this wrench. I have never seen one before and the earliest catalog available in the public domain is 1937.

Lugz that does look suspiously like a Williams forging.
I will try to plunder around in the buckets and see if I can locate a Williams equivalent.
We sure need a 1920's Herbrand catalog!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Lugz that does look suspiciously like a Williams forging.
I will try to plunder around in the buckets and see if I can locate a Williams equivalent.

Oh, I was so struck by it that I didn't even think of doing that. I will do the same for an 'in person/in steel' comparison.

 

[ooba tooba]

40s? 50s?

 

[Provincial]

This little guy was too cute to pass up Thursday.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Especially with the "New Emergency" triple alloy steel number forged in on the shank like that. They really squeezed that on there. I have a lot of wartime Herbrand, but I don't think I have any DBEs with the AISI number placed on an angle like that. Nice find.

 

[bonneyman]

This little guy was too cute to pass up Thursday.

I'm the same way. Just have a soft spot for shorty DBE's so I tend to grab whatever I find....even if I have that size already. They're just so dog gone handy for working on old SAE stuff.