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chrisnazzy

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Thanks for the feedback and compliment. [emoji106]

My box is actually 36" wide 29" deep and 31.5" tall without casters, definitely a KRL. It came direct from a very long time Snap-on employee. The dividers were actually some of the first test pieces that they produced.
So first off, great job refinishing that box. It looks awesome in white and you've got a great collection of quality tools in there.

The mystery continues on what it actually is though because it definitely isn't a KRL box. If it's 29" deep that is certainly deeper than a KRA box but KRL or Masters Series boxes have always had flush drawers and vertical square tube trim. Even if you took the vertical trim off the box, the face of the drawer would be flush with the cabinet and only the drawer pull ledge would protrude. Your drawers are recessed deeper into the cabinet so that the drawer pulls are flush just like all the KRA boxes. The other telltale is the casters. KRL boxes have never come with that style lighter duty caster.

Also, the only single bank 36" wide 29" deep KRL that I know of was/is the KRL1056 and it has an additional 4" drawer for a total of 8 drawers.

When you took it all apart to have it powder coated do you remember seeing a label or serial number inside near the bottom? This can usually be seen with just the bottom drawer removed and if it's just a stamped serial number you could probably call Snap-on customer service and they should be able to tell you the model number if you care to know.

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tow truck delivered my new box yesterday. can't wait to get it all organized and looking **** inside. i do miss the seven small drawers of the kr537 though, so i'll have to find some good storage trays. it will be nice to retire the old taco wagon

Snap-on (and others) make drawer dividers that give you some flexibility to divide drawers as your needs change. You can move the "walls" to easily give more space to that one collection that grows beyond the space originally allocated.

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So first off, great job refinishing that box. It looks awesome in white and you've got a great collection of quality tools in there.

The mystery continues on what it actually is though because it definitely isn't a KRL box. If it's 29" deep that is certainly deeper than a KRA box but KRL or Masters Series boxes have always had flush drawers and vertical square tube trim. Even if you took the vertical trim off the box, the face of the drawer would be flush with the cabinet and only the drawer pull ledge would protrude. Your drawers are recessed deeper into the cabinet so that the drawer pulls are flush just like all the KRA boxes. The other telltale is the casters. KRL boxes have never come with that style lighter duty caster.

Also, the only single bank 36" wide 29" deep KRL that I know of was/is the KRL1056 and it has an additional 4" drawer for a total of 8 drawers.

When you took it all apart to have it powder coated do you remember seeing a label or serial number inside near the bottom? This can usually be seen with just the bottom drawer removed and if it's just a stamped serial number you could probably call Snap-on customer service and they should be able to tell you the model number if you care to know.

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Thanks for the great info. There definitely was no label inside and because it was a true prototype, there was no stamping on it either. I see what you mean about the recessed drawers. It is sized like a KRL (depth, handle, etc) but has the recessed drawers like a KRA. Im guessing it was a test to see about the possibility of a deep KRA? Hmmm...I'm glad I posted up some photos. I assumed by the size that it was a KRL. I'll post some photos of what it looked like originally when I get home tonight.
 

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Thanks for the great info. There definitely was no label inside and because it was a true prototype, there was no stamping on it either. I see what you mean about the recessed drawers. It is sized like a KRL (depth, handle, etc) but has the recessed drawers like a KRA. Im guessing it was a test to see about the possibility of a deep KRA? Hmmm...I'm glad I posted up some photos. I assumed by the size that it was a KRL. I'll post some photos of what it looked like originally when I get home tonight.

I agree with Chrisnazzy. But it's also noteworthy that your box appears to have the KRL style top seam, square where the front meet the top, whereas the classic and heritage series usually have the rounded edges on the top of the front face.

In any case, it's an interesting box, and I love the color!
 

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I agree with Chrisnazzy. But it's also noteworthy that your box appears to have the KRL style top seam, square where the front meet the top, whereas the classic and heritage series usually have the rounded edges on the top of the front face.



In any case, it's an interesting box, and I love the color!



First, I am impressed with all the knowledge you guys have about the boxes, it definitely shows the pride y’all have in what you own.

Second, as for the color, I never really thought of white for a box until I saw a few years back a user (I think his user name was MechanicNamedJohn) moved from a HF setup to a beautiful white Matco box if my memory serves me right. I have become a fan of the white and the box above looks killer.


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So first off, great job refinishing that box. It looks awesome in white and you've got a great collection of quality tools in there.

The mystery continues on what it actually is though because it definitely isn't a KRL box. If it's 29" deep that is certainly deeper than a KRA box but KRL or Masters Series boxes have always had flush drawers and vertical square tube trim. Even if you took the vertical trim off the box, the face of the drawer would be flush with the cabinet and only the drawer pull ledge would protrude. Your drawers are recessed deeper into the cabinet so that the drawer pulls are flush just like all the KRA boxes. The other telltale is the casters. KRL boxes have never come with that style lighter duty caster.

Also, the only single bank 36" wide 29" deep KRL that I know of was/is the KRL1056 and it has an additional 4" drawer for a total of 8 drawers.

When you took it all apart to have it powder coated do you remember seeing a label or serial number inside near the bottom? This can usually be seen with just the bottom drawer removed and if it's just a stamped serial number you could probably call Snap-on customer service and they should be able to tell you the model number if you care to know.

Chris

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Thanks for the great info. There definitely was no label inside and because it was a true prototype, there was no stamping on it either. I see what you mean about the recessed drawers. It is sized like a KRL (depth, handle, etc) but has the recessed drawers like a KRA. Im guessing it was a test to see about the possibility of a deep KRA? Hmmm...I'm glad I posted up some photos. I assumed by the size that it was a KRL. I'll post some photos of what it looked like originally when I get home tonight.


This is a 1056. what Chris means is it does not have the support corner gussets that all KRL boxes have. there is trim over those corner gussets. they are 36" wide x 29" deep and 44" tall without a top. A krl756 is the exact same box, in 7 drawer that is 4" shorter and only 24" deep. I actually have one of each of them. the 756 is the common bottom box on a single stack unit. the 1056 is the master series "side kick" Both of these boxes come with the chromed covered KRL722 style wheels. they don't come with the fancy iso ride wheels. they are a slight upgrade over the KRA wheels. What chris means about the drawers, is they don't protrude past the edge of the box with the trim. The KRA boxes don't have that trim. it isn't just a trim piece, it is to cover the corner square that is welded into the box, its is a box inside of a box to make it stronger. the trim just covers it so it isn't an eye sore.

Your box is nice. restoration was phenomenal, but it is not a KRL box. prototype 29" deep KRA is a possibility. KRA and KRL boxes aren't built out of the same gauge drawers or main box. they have not made a 29" deep KRA box as far as production goes to this day. they height of yours is very similar to the Epic KEMW361 mobile work station. 36"wide, 30 deep and 40" tall.. it might have been used to size a mobile cart/work station. I also have one of those as is by far the baddest little cart ever made. solid top will support 2K lb engines on top.

this is my 1056.

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this my krl756 bottom. and an older dealers box beside it. the dealers box is the same height at at krl1056 for reference to height differences.

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KRA and KRL boxes aren't built out of the same gauge drawers or main box.
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From the current catalog, Masters (KRL) and Classic (KRA) are the same gauge metal. The Heritage series (other KRA) is the thinner gauge.

I'd like to see the slides and side handle on the above box if possible, just out of curiosity.
 

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This is a 1056. what Chris means is it does not have the support corner gussets that all KRL boxes have. there is trim over those corner gussets. they are 36" wide x 29" deep and 44" tall without a top. A krl756 is the exact same box, in 7 drawer that is 4" shorter and only 24" deep. I actually have one of each of them. the 756 is the common bottom box on a single stack unit. the 1056 is the master series "side kick" Both of these boxes come with the chromed covered KRL722 style wheels. they don't come with the fancy iso ride wheels. they are a slight upgrade over the KRA wheels. What chris means about the drawers, is they don't protrude past the edge of the box with the trim. The KRA boxes don't have that trim. it isn't just a trim piece, it is to cover the corner square that is welded into the box, its is a box inside of a box to make it stronger. the trim just covers it so it isn't an eye sore.

Your box is nice. restoration was phenomenal, but it is not a KRL box. prototype 29" deep KRA is a possibility. KRA and KRL boxes aren't built out of the same gauge drawers or main box. they have not made a 29" deep KRA box as far as production goes to this day. they height of yours is very similar to the Epic KEMW361 mobile work station. 36"wide, 30 deep and 40" tall.. it might have been used to size a mobile cart/work station. I also have one of those as is by far the baddest little cart ever made. solid top will support 2K lb engines on top.

this is my 1056.

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this my krl756 bottom. and an older dealers box beside it. the dealers box is the same height at at krl1056 for reference to height differences.

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Again, great info!

Here are few shots of the box in the original color and a few more of the inside after it came back from powder coat.

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Great transformation. I enjoy the white cart I just bought. I was hesitant to buy a white one but am very happy with it. If you don’t mind me asking what did it cost you to get everything powder coated?
 

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Great transformation. I enjoy the white cart I just bought. I was hesitant to buy a white one but am very happy with it. If you don’t mind me asking what did it cost you to get everything powder coated?

I paid about $350 for everything (case, drawers, handle, emblem), but I don't think I could get that deal again. I had a connection at a local powder coat place that did the work. Last time I checked, outer shell would be about $200 alone, not sure about each drawer.
 

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Again, what an excellent job on that transformation. Powdercoating is such a great option in that situation and it came out awesome! A 29" deep KRA prototype that never made it to production is my best guess too! You certainly have a one of a kind toolbox.

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I certainly knew you understood the differences between the KRL and KRA boxes. Thank you for better clarifying what I was referring to.

Funny enough, my first SO toolbox was a brand new KRL756 I bought back in 2001. Custom ordered yellow with black trim. Back then they were in the $2500 range and I remember I got $800 trade in on an old (and well used) Mac stack my dad had given me to trade in on it.

I've had my KRL1001 now for 12 years and I've pretty much outgrown it. I've thought several times of adding a 1056 in the same color since it would be the same height/width/depth and would look nice with the two side by side. I just keep coming back around though to just upgrading soon to an 84" Epiq.

My KRL10017edc29d5f2c8f6c9d376605e58f4b59a.jpgA pic I saw and saved of a KRL1056 in same yellow w/ black trim combo.1f527a91cdfa07a688fb4066bf3c7401.jpgIt'd be a pretty nice setup but the triple full width drawers, Powerdrawer and wider narrow bank drawers of an Epiq are just too appealing!

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designer485

Again, what an excellent job on that transformation. Powdercoating is such a great option in that situation and it came out awesome! A 29" deep KRA prototype that never made it to production is my best guess too! You certainly have a one of a kind toolbox.

AngryBeaver

I certainly knew you understood the differences between the KRL and KRA boxes. Thank you for better clarifying what I was referring to.

Funny enough, my first SO toolbox was a brand new KRL756 I bought back in 2001. Custom ordered yellow with black trim. Back then they were in the $2500 range and I remember I got $800 trade in on an old (and well used) Mac stack my dad had given me to trade in on it.

I've had my KRL1001 now for 12 years and I've pretty much outgrown it. I've thought several times of adding a 1056 in the same color since it would be the same height/width/depth and would look nice with the two side by side. I just keep coming back around though to just upgrading soon to an 84" Epiq.

My KRL10017edc29d5f2c8f6c9d376605e58f4b59a.jpgA pic I saw and saved of a KRL1056 in same yellow w/ black trim combo.1f527a91cdfa07a688fb4066bf3c7401.jpgIt'd be a pretty nice setup but the triple full width drawers, Powerdrawer and wider narrow bank drawers of an Epiq are just too appealing!

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My brother won that krl756/651 harley combo in 2003 from a 250 dollar raffle. I bought it from in 2008 or so for 2K after I sold my used 761 double stack setup for 4K. didn't need a double stack at work since I've been in a service truck for over 12 years...I love that little single stack setup


take a good look at the 84"...they aren't full width drawers... i wanted to go that route the worse way, but trading in my 1022/hutch/locker/ end cab and 10K didn't sit well with me, so I bought a used box the same color. technically traded a 700 dollar car for it. but... car was worth 2500 or so. I love my setup now. tools, machinist tools, power tools, carpentry tools, etc. plus a nice work surface. I have thought long and hard about painting that 1056 EG to match everything else... I have it for sale, with no bites... I don't need 10 boxes. lol it will also fit in the cubby hole were the drill press is....

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Going from old to new. The HF cart has been my main box for a few years until I just picked up this Kobalt top/bottom set for a steal. Started moving my tools over this morning, thought about selling the HF cart but since I just set up that spot around it I may keep it there just for cordless tools and other odds and ends.
 

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Thanks for the feedback and compliment. :thumbup:

My box is actually 36" wide 29" deep and 31.5" tall without casters, possibly a KRL/KRA hybrid. It came direct from a very long time Snap-on employee. The dividers were actually some of the first test pieces that they produced.

Snap-on had KRW modular storage units and workstations in the 90's and 2000's. Usually on skids but they came with a handle and caster option. Nice job on the restoration btw.

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teardown and refresh of the taco cart began tonight. gonna be a bit of work, but should be a nice working box for someone when i'm done.

anybody with the oddball 77 taco cart with the sliding doors have an idea on how to get them out? the little side one's need a lot of work :(
 

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As some know, due to a back injury from a few years ago I have physical limitations that have forced my hand and recently made the choice to leave the auto repair business. I'm no longer a professional mechanic.

So everything came home and I've started to work on setting up my garage (not done yet). As money and my back allows, I've been working on my own car. I may work on family or friends cars in the future, or perhaps the occasional repair job for a paying customer. But regardless, I'm now working out of my garage. More battery operated tools to come, and less pneumatic. My eventual goal is to get rid of the compressor all-together. It's loud and I hate air hoses.


Overview of "my side of the garage"... It's a small 1.5 car garage (I don't think you could fit 2 cars and still open the door to get out of the car). My cousin parks his Mustang in the garage and my Altima stays on the street outside. The other sides of the garage are nothing special, trash cans and boxes.




My Husky 46" box. Very good box for the price. Still not 100% done on its organization, but it holds my "core tools" with some room still to expand or move things around.




My US General 5-drawer service cart. Great cart for the money as well. This holds my "automotive specific tools" and overflow/extra tools (formerly known as the stuff that stayed at home). Yes, the socket organizers on top are empty as I don't currently have any SAE sockets, but I will be picking up a basic 1/2", 3/8" and 1/4" set soon. I also have a small SAE wrench set. The fact is, I rarely use SAE anything. But it doesn't hurt to be prepared.


Joe ill be over to collect the green stuff soon since you don't need then now.....lol. nice set man, is one of those m18 1/2? If so does the weight become to heavy after using it a while compared to air? Have as much balls?
1/2 electric would be nice but still not sold on it
 

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AngryJoe Fist of all sorry to read that you had injured your back a while ago. I injured mine lifting a plywood sheet years ago, while lifting correctly bending the knees etc. I'm ok, but every once in a while a movement in the wrong direction stirs things up.

Nice selection of tools there I like the drawer organizers. Still looking for the right ones for me.
 

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Joe ill be over to collect the green stuff soon since you don't need then now.....lol. nice set man, is one of those m18 1/2? If so does the weight become to heavy after using it a while compared to air? Have as much balls?

1/2 electric would be nice but still not sold on it
The m18 1/2" has replaced most of the air 1/2" impacts in the shop I work in, fleet maintenance for a freight company, its abused on 1-5/16" bolts 8-16 times a night to 600ftlbs and I wouldnt trade it for a 3/4" impact anymore, its lighter and no hose to entangle in everything

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Sadly no. That is an M18 3/8" impact. My next major purchase is going to the 1/2" impact for sure. I already have a 6.0ah battery for it if needed.



As for it's power, the M18 1/2" has more than proven itself to match or exceed its pneumatic counterpart. Milwaukee has several versions of the 1/2" but its high torque model is advertised at something like 1,400ft lbs.



To put that in perspective my large Matco pneumatic 1/2" impact was advertised at 1,300ft lbs and it was a beast. My stubby 1/2" Matco impact was advertised at 500ft lbs, and for its size, was also a beast. I don't have either of those anymore now that I'm working from my garage.



Many mechanics in the world are replacing pneumatic with electric and Milwaukee is probably the ring leader.
I have the matco 1/2 mt2769 it's been a great gun so far much better than the mg725 I had previously I just have that one issue with Milwaukee the no green thing lol but I'm sure it's definitely cheaper than the snap on 18volt. It would be more of a convenience thing I have air and 2 lines right in my bay but wasn't sure if size and weight was more than my pneumatic setup.f516f7f23c68e363972bc7728206e7b9.jpg

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That was the same impact I had from Matco. Only used it about a week before my back gave out again. I bought the stubby MT2760 last year. Not so much for the size, but more because of weight. You do not think about it, but a 5lb impact vs a 2lb impact, being used all day and every day, the weight can make a huge difference.

The MT2769 is 4.6lbs according to Matco. And the Milwaukee M18 1/2" high torque is 5.9lbs according to Milwaukee without a battery. So yeah, the weight and size will be more than its pneumatic counterpart, but I would say it depends on how much you use it and if you are working in a shop or home garage.

For me, working in my home garage now with a small compressor and not using my tools all day and every day, the extra size and weight does not concern me. But for sure, in a shop environment, besides the air hose, pneumatic is easier to use in terms of size and weight.

That said, unfortunately not all of my tools are green. But the Milwaukee red seems to still fit in nicely. My preference for green aside, color is always secondary. Maybe one day I will buy a green box, green organizers and trade out non-green for green. But until that time, I use what I have and buy green when I can.
For sure on the green my main box is blue because it was used and priced Right if I want a tool and can wait a week it's green if I need it now I'll take what's there lol when it's warrantied then it can be green

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Just updated mine. It’s a subtle change but added drawer guards if you will, almost identical to the top


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Here's an updated pic of my current box at work. KMP1163 in Army Green. Will soon be replaced with a KTP1023 in Storm Grey With Orange Trim! Should be here in 6 weeks. Orange KTP is from Reddit, will be the same as mine but different color.
 

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Here's an updated pic of my current box at work. KMP1163 in Army Green. Will soon be replaced with a KTP1023 in Storm Grey With Orange Trim! Should be here in 6 weeks. Orange KTP is from Reddit, will be the same as mine but different color.
Congrats! Can't wait to see your TUV in Storm Gray with orange trim.

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Here's an updated pic of my current box at work. KMP1163 in Army Green. Will soon be replaced with a KTP1023 in Storm Grey With Orange Trim! Should be here in 6 weeks. Orange KTP is from Reddit, will be the same as mine but different color.

Those boxes are badass!! Can't wait to see yours. I like the color combo.
 

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After at least a year of contemplating, I finally worked up the courage today to drill a few holes in my Proto box and install this little 3 1/2” Mastercraft vise. Should come in handy!

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