Light Fixture Layout Collections

[stayalert]

Interested in Dimmable LED

one area of the barn is 24' x 16' and will be primarily designed for working on vehicles (planning for eventual lift) and storage of a big fat camper van...The rest of the first floor (24' x 36') will be cars and/or whatever else (small boats, etc)

The van area has 12' ceilings and the rest of the first floor has 9' ceilings....white ceilings and walls

what fixtures/layout would serve this space?

 

[WarDamnEagle]

Wow. Just looked through this thread. @Platonic Solid you are a rock star for all the help you have given!

We just bought a house; hopefully our retirement home in a few years. I currently work out of the country and ran across the house looking for property to eventually build on. Anyway, fell in love with the house and it didn't hurt that it came with a 40' x 40' shop with HVAC.

I was doing some work on my FJ55 and noticed that the lighting in the shop simply isn't adequate. It currently has 8 4x8' tube fixtures in a 2 x 4 configuration. Shop has two 12' x 14' commercial roll up doors and the two rows of lights are generally centered on the doors (doors start 5' from the side walls).

The ceilings are around 15.5' at the bottom of the purlins on the side walls and go up to 17' + in the center. Current light fixtures are 15' high. I could likely go up to 16' or higher if that gives a better result.

I really like the LED high bay (UFO) lights after reading the information in this thread. I chose a 20k lumen Lithonia fixture and it gave me a 9 light, 3 x 3 configuration (see photo) when using 70 foot candles as the criteria. When I change to a 15k lumen fixture it ups the number to 12 in a 3 x 4 configuration. Unfortunately it wouldn't be easy for me to have a center row between the roll up doors as the HVAC duct goes down the center. I assume I could use the 3 x 4 configured 4 wide and 3 deep without much of an issue.

Regardless I can't hit the exact spacing recommended unless I build some bracing between the purlins (or maybe just use cable since they "hang"?). Purlins from the center line start approximately 1' from the center peak and then are spaced approximately 5' apart. That leaves the last one a bit under 3.5' from the wall struts. (Plan on building walls out of CMU and/or Sheetrock even with inside of wall struts.)

So if I go with 15K units and use the purlins to hang them from without any horizontal brackets the 4 rows would be spaced 3.5' from the wall and 13.5' from the wall. That means the two center rows would be 12' apart. Not sure if that would make a huge difference in the result?

So open to advice / suggestions. Not married to these fixtures and only used them since I was using the Lithonia tool. I do like the LED high bay fixtures though and would like to use that type of fixture.

 

[Platonic Solid]

WarDamnEagle - Since you're well below the 17.6' spacing criteria, the blend of 12' & 10' spacing won't be an issue.

 

[WarDamnEagle]

WarDamnEagle - Since you're well below the 17.6' spacing criteria, the blend of 12' & 10' spacing won't be an issue.

Thanks. Was hoping that was the case but good to have some confirmation. Cheers!

 

[joelb]

Took way too long, but I finally got the last two fixtures installed and can show a completed picture. One of the fixtures was to be mounted where the garage door opener was, so I switched to jackshaft mounted openers, that was most of the delay.

Thanks for the help Platonic Solid!!!! I love the results.

 

[Vi3tboy]

Took way too long, but I finally got the last two fixtures installed and can show a completed picture. One of the fixtures was to be mounted where the garage door opener was, so I switched to jackshaft mounted openers, that was most of the delay.

Thanks for the help Platonic Solid!!!! I love the results.

Looks great and love the gtr. I have lighting up next in our brand new house.

 

[Metallitubby]

One of the fixtures was to be mounted where the garage door opener was

That little square light is so cute next to the big-boy LEDs!

 

[omasou]

@Platonic Solid

I was hoping for your input on the following design and thoughts on these 5000K vs. 6500K lights?

TIA.

Background

I have a 3 bay garage 31' W x 20' D x 9 1/2’ H. The ceiling has 2 drywalled beams measuring 18" H x 7" W separating the 3 bays.

I am considering installing 4 x 8' LED lights in each bay. The lights are coupled into 2 x 16' long lights.

The lights are sold as 5000K clear and 6500K frosted. They have the same 85 CRI and ~the same lumens / watt. The 5000K at 118 vs. 6500K at 102.

Barrina 8’ LED tube light fixture, 72w, 8500lm, 5000K, CRI 85
Barrina 8’ LED tube light fixture, 44w, 4500lm, 6500K, CRI 85

Other than color spectrum and clear vs. frosted the lights have the same output but the 5000K at twice the wattage and therefore less efficient for the same lux, correct?

 

[DukeGN]

I’m building a detached 3 car garage. The dimensions are 41’8”L, 23’4'W, 18'H at the peak. Just shy of 1,000 square feet. Three garage doors, the roof is 8.5/12 and there is a gable in the center (9/12) and a dormer in the back in the center (3/12). The first stall has attic trusses and a ceiling height of approx. 8’4”. The center stall is open and there will be a two post lift. The third stall has scissor trusses. The electrical rough in has already happened, then I discovered this thread and I’m in need of some quick help. The walls will be AC plywood, i.e., not white.

I’m assuming the ideal FC is 93. Should I use UFO LEDs in the middle and second stall?

 

[PWilks]

Looking for a lighting layout for 24x32x12.

Drywall ceiling painted white.

If there's anything comparable on this thread, I would love a link. Looked through ~20 pages and didn't see anything.

Thanks!

 

[joelb]

Looks great and love the gtr. I have lighting up next in our brand new house.

Awesome setup!!!!!

That little square light is so cute next to the big-boy LEDs!

The squares are actually quite useful. They're the lights that come with the Liftmaster 8500w's and they are motion activated. It's perfect for going out to the garage to grab a tool or something out of the fridge because I don't even need to hit a switch, I just walk out, lights come on, then leave, and the lights shut off automatically.

Looking for a lighting layout for 24x32x12.

Drywall ceiling painted white.

If there's anything comparable on this thread, I would love a link. Looked through ~20 pages and didn't see anything.

Thanks!

Mine is 32x32x11.5 and I did a 5x4. You could probably just eliminate a row and do a 5x3 with the same fixtures. Pictures are in this thread up a little bit. I used these fixtures: https://www.prolighting.com/commercial-lighting/ledready/t443ssubcxx00p0-18w5k.html

 

[PWilks]

Awesome setup!!!!!



The squares are actually quite useful. They're the lights that come with the Liftmaster 8500w's and they are motion activated. It's perfect for going out to the garage to grab a tool or something out of the fridge because I don't even need to hit a switch, I just walk out, lights come on, then leave, and the lights shut off automatically.



Mine is 32x32x11.5 and I did a 5x4. You could probably just eliminate a row and do a 5x3 with the same fixtures. Pictures are in this thread up a little bit. I used these fixtures: https://www.prolighting.com/commercial-lighting/ledready/t443ssubcxx00p0-18w5k.html

Thanks man. I’ll take a look

 

[HotRod68Camaro]

Let me know what y'all think of these layouts.

A) This is what I'm currently thinking.
The top and bottom rows (as viewed in the picture) are space 2' edge of light to wall and 2.5' from the edge of the light to the wall (right) or garage door (left). This will allow 2' deep cabinets and work benches on the three walls.
The tree single lights on each side are spaced equidistant between the rows.
The thing that bugs me is the top three rows are spaced evenly but the 4th isn't. This is due to the double/single door sizing/locations. But it allows for the rows to be 2' off the walls and as close to the edges of each vehicles relative position.



B) This is what the Visual Interior Tool came up with when there were no spacing constraints.



C) This is with my spacing constraints added, but does not factor in garage door positions just essentially spacing off the walls.



Any recommendations are appreciated. Planning on using the fixtures/bulbs from the first page.

 

[Toomanytools?]

2 feet off wall seems close, I think 30" to 48" would work better.
Is there a reason for the 24" spacing off wall?

 

[HotRod68Camaro]

2 feet off wall seems close, I think 30" to 48" would work better.
Is there a reason for the 24" spacing off wall?

Just trying to find a distance between the side of my vehicles and the cabinets (24" deep). I could probably move it out to 30"-36", but i would probably need more task lighting if i push them out further than 36" and i don't get enough light inside of under the vehicle because the lights are directly above it.

 

[omasou]

I was hoping for your input on the following design and thoughts on these 5000K vs. 6500K lights?

TIA.

Background

I have a 3 bay garage 31' W x 20' D x 9 1/2’ H. The ceiling has 2 drywalled beams measuring 18" H x 7" W separating the 3 bays.

I am considering installing 4 x 8' LED lights in each bay. The lights are coupled into 2 x 16' long lights.

The lights are sold as 5000K clear and 6500K frosted. They have the same 85 CRI and ~the same lumens / watt. The 5000K at 118 vs. 6500K at 102.

Barrina 8’ LED tube light fixture, 72w, 8500lm, 5000K, CRI 85
Barrina 8’ LED tube light fixture, 44w, 4500lm, 6500K, CRI 85

Other than color spectrum and clear vs. frosted the lights have the same output but the 5000K at twice the wattage and therefore less efficient for the same lux, correct?

Thought I would provide an update to those considering the Barrina LEDs.

I wouldn't bother w/the 8' lights. They arrived damaged twice and are too unwieldy to install alone.

I wouldn't bother w/the 6500K frosted lights. The 6500K gave me a headache. I think it was b/c the quality wasn't high enough, e.g. 85 CRI vs. 95 CRI and the lumens are too low.

waveformlighting.com/color-matching/top-4-things-to-consider-before-buying-6500k-daylight-led-bulbs

I ended up purchasing the 4' 5000K lights and using a laser to line up the brackets.

Once I get everything fitted, I plan to cut the plugs and hardwire the lights to clean it up and paint the garage

BTW, I spaced the lights 2' from the walls.

 

[joelb]

Let me know what y'all think of these layouts.

A) This is what I'm currently thinking.
The top and bottom rows (as viewed in the picture) are space 2' edge of light to wall and 2.5' from the edge of the light to the wall (right) or garage door (left). This will allow 2' deep cabinets and work benches on the three walls.
The tree single lights on each side are spaced equidistant between the rows.
The thing that bugs me is the top three rows are spaced evenly but the 4th isn't. This is due to the double/single door sizing/locations. But it allows for the rows to be 2' off the walls and as close to the edges of each vehicles relative position.



B) This is what the Visual Interior Tool came up with when there were no spacing constraints.



C) This is with my spacing constraints added, but does not factor in garage door positions just essentially spacing off the walls.



Any recommendations are appreciated. Planning on using the fixtures/bulbs from the first page.

I'd ditch the perpendicular lights on the end and do 5 rows of lighting (up to you if you do 5x3 or 5x4). I did 5x4 but I have and extra 5' of length than you have because my garage is a square. We have roughly the same square footage though because you have 4' more width than me. I did 5 rows, so I think with your extra width you should also do 5 rows. If you do that you don't have to worry about perfectly framing the cars as much because that many rows evenly spread out should eliminate shadows. Then just a light or two for task lighting over your work bench or do under cabinet lighting if you have wall cabinets if you feel you need more work light, but I doubt you will. I have under cabinet lighting but unless I'm soldering something on the work bench it's really not needed.

 

[fosgate769]

Looking for recommendations on a 40 x 60 layout. Close to finally getting around to putting up some lights in my shop, perhaps a similar layout exist but I haven't com across it yet.

Originally I was looking to go with a 5 x 4 layout of the (Alphalite Slim Linear LED High Bay (Mfr link), 2 Foot, 110 Watt, 14410 lm, EHB2-110/850) that I was pointed to in another thread, but I think I will be building a mezzanine that is about 18 x 40. What are thoughts on using 16 of the Alphalites in an arrangement like what is attached? Under the Mezzanine I will have 2 rooms with 8 foot ceilings, what is a good light that could be used inside the rooms as well as above? The shop has 16 foot side walls and is about 19.5" in the middle. Thanks.

 

[Motown 454]

Hi Platonic Solid I have a 26D x 22w x12 H garage
it will have smooth white walls. The garage door is 16'W x 8 H,. I have 3 14" sun tunnels in the roof. Against the wall over the Tool box there is a 45000 btu hanging heater. The lift on the left is a future install.




All help is appreciated.
Thank you
Wayne

 

[wantacoe]

Back in February this year I was advise to buy these lights. At that time they were 120 per 2 pack, now they are 156. Have they gone up because of covid, hurricane etc like lumber did or is it just normal price increase? Thanks https://www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com/HB-120W320605-L-D-2-p/hb-120w320605-l-d-2.htm

 

[recountryman]

hey everyone! Finally getting my Steel garage built it a 30 x 50 with 12ft walls with a 4:12 pitch will have the usual white insulation on the ceiling and walls and no windows with 2-10ft roll up doors on one end and a single 10" door up door on the other end. Will be used for the usual stuff...working on cars,wood working and just piddling around. I'm almost 55 and eyes are starting to **** so want to make sure I got enough! Been going thru the post and think I came up with a layout that I think would work but would like to other opinions also.. I used the Lithonia Lighting IBE 12LM MVOLT 40K IBE LED high
bay, 24" but worried about it being too bright but appears not to be...

 

[recountryman]

Well now plugged in some UFO lights Lithonia Lighting JEBL 18L 40K 80CRI JEBL LED round high bay, 18,000 lumens, glass lens, 4000 K 80 CRI with just 9 I get this..guess another option I got to look at.

 

[Innovate1]

I just got the lights wired up in my 30 x 40 with 14' high ceilings and am quite happy with them. The recommendations from several sources were 12 high bay lights - one used 4 tube fixtures. It seemed like a lot so I went with these at 5180 Lumens each (a little less than half the lumens of the 12 recommended fixtures):

https://www.prolighting.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=T442SSUBCXX00P0-18W4K

I have a glossy white metal ceiling and white walls which helps with light levels. While I appreciate all the help here I feel like a lot of the recommendations are much more than needed for most people. Just my opinion...

 

[WarDamnEagle]

hey everyone! Finally getting my Steel garage built it a 30 x 50 with 12ft walls with a 4:12 pitch will have the usual white insulation on the ceiling and walls and no windows with 2-10ft roll up doors on one end and a single 10" door up door on the other end. Will be used for the usual stuff...working on cars,wood working and just piddling around. I'm almost 55 and eyes are starting to **** so want to make sure I got enough! Been going thru the post and think I came up with a layout that I think would work but would like to other opinions also.. I used the Lithonia Lighting IBE 12LM MVOLT 40K IBE LED high
bay, 24" but worried about it being too bright but appears not to be...

I have been looking at that same fixture in my 40 x 40. I have higher walls so they will be hanging around 15' but I was also looking at 16 of them. I was getting higher lumen results than you but plan on running them on 2 dimmers. I was also looking at the 5k ones but I don't think that affects the lumen output.

Would love to see someone install them.

 

[Mjf415]

Hey everyone, I've been reading this thread for the last few hours and learned so much. Thank you all, esp Platonic Solid, for the education.

 

[mvanbens]

What software is being used for these lighting studies? Is it available for free? I would love to give it a try but also not above asking for help if someone has good experience with it.

My garage is 43' x 21' with a gable style roof interior; 8.5' at walls up to 10' at 46" off walls. Gable angle is roughly 27 deg. from horizontal. That make the 10' high center section just under 14' long. It's a four car configuration with two 17' garage doors on one of the long ends. Interior is drywall. Plan to install one lift at one of the end bays. Daily drivers do not get parked in garage.

Any fixture suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Particularly uncertain about what I'm going to do for lightning on the gable angle sections. Thank you.

I'm having no luck adding images. Hopefully these links at least work.
https://ibb.co/MBJc8zj
https://ibb.co/16QMXxR

 

[recountryman]

What software is being used for these lighting studies? Is it available for free? I would love to give it a try but also not above asking for help if someone has good experience with it.

My garage is 43' x 21' with a gable style roof interior; 8.5' at walls up to 10' at 46" off walls. Gable angle is roughly 27 deg. from horizontal. That make the 10' high center section just under 14' long. It's a four car configuration with two 17' garage doors on one of the long ends. Interior is drywall. Plan to install one lift at one of the end bays. Daily drivers do not get parked in garage.

Any fixture suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Particularly uncertain about what I'm going to do for lightning on the gable angle sections. Thank you.

As far as software yes its free and I have used DIALux evo ( learning curve) and DIALux 4 (slight learning curve) here.. https://www.dialux.com/en-GB/download

Also Visual Interior Tool here.. https://www.visual-3d.com/tools/interior/

 

[Mjf415]

Hey Platonic, do you install your lighting designs in Fairfield County?

 

[Pmctn]

I am about to build a new house with a full basement which will have parking and workshop space.

Ceiling height will be approx 11' block walls with painted white ceiling. It will be used for parking and general mechanic and woodwork.

The door will be an 8x18 with high lift and the door opener will be a Liftmaster 8500 mounted on the wall.

Can i get a recommended layout?

 

[recountryman]

Well I bought me some HYPERLITE 5000K LED UFO High Bay Lights 100W Coollight 14,000lm. Going to do 4 rows of 3 or maybe 3 rows of 4 isn't much difference between the two but with 4 rows I can split them up and only light 1/2 of the shop when needed.. and on a dimmer just hope these lasts.

 

[RPhil]

Long time lurker and I wanted to post my results as I used a lot of the community's posts and recommendations from this thread to make my decision.

21x28 attached garage, ~13' ceilings. Ended up going with the popular Maxlite fixtures (LSS2XT8USE4803) and Magic T8 LED Tubes (ZY-T8-18W1200-BIX) in 4000K, both purchased from LED Lighting Wholesale. I went with 14 total fixtures (28 tubes).

Layout (altered very slightly during install):

Before/After:

Don't mind the clutter or disorganization, the space is still a work in progress.

I am thrilled with the results. Thanks to everyone else who has shared their advice and experiences.

 

[Toomanytools?]

Long time lurker and I wanted to post my results as I used a lot of the community's posts and recommendations from this thread to make my decision.

21x28 attached garage, ~13' ceilings. Ended up going with the popular Maxlite fixtures (LSS2XT8USE4803) and Magic T8 LED Tubes (ZY-T8-18W1200-BIX) in 4000K, both purchased from LED Lighting Wholesale. I went with 14 total fixtures (28 tubes).

Layout (altered very slightly during install):

Before/After:

Don't mind the clutter or disorganization, the space is still a work in progress.

I am thrilled with the results. Thanks to everyone else who has shared their advice and experiences.

Don't think your photo's show because you don't have enough posts.

 

[RPhil]

Don't think your photo's show because you don't have enough posts.

Fixed. Thank you.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Fixed. Thank you.

Make productive quality post not random 1-2 word posts. Thanks.

 

[dj60103]

18 x 25 garage workshop

Hoping for some help selecting and locating lighting for my garage / workshop addition. Dimensions 18'W x 25'L attached to existing 2 car. Walls are 8'-4-1/2" rising to 11'-6" in the center. The garage will have a mid rise lift and want great lighting for work and concours detailing, including the chassis. Current thought is dimmable LED's about 36" from the side walls, then 2 or 3 perpendicular for the rear work area.

 

[Rich5ltr]

Hi Chaps, I've seen some pictures of garages with LED lighting fixed around the top edge of the perimeter walls. Obviously need some hanging strips in the middle too but I was wondering if anyone can re-post some photos?

p.s. Also, have any of you put some lights in a PIR so that they come on automatically as you enter the garage?

 

[AFChief]

My Shop will have walls going up in November. 60x40x12 4/12 scissor trusses (2/12 on the lower supports). Will have 2 10x10 doors for vehicle stalls on one of the long ends to give me a shop area on the opposite side (wood working, smoke pole construction and other projects). Any recommendations? Don't need the cheapest, but not bank breakers. Planning to use white metal dura panels on the ceiling. Still deciding on the walls. Probably a hybrid of dura panel and plywood.

 

[Mwaters]

Long time lurker and I wanted to post my results as I used a lot of the community's posts and recommendations from this thread to make my decision.

21x28 attached garage, ~13' ceilings. Ended up going with the popular Maxlite fixtures (LSS2XT8USE4803) and Magic T8 LED Tubes (ZY-T8-18W1200-BIX) in 4000K, both purchased from LED Lighting Wholesale. I went with 14 total fixtures (28 tubes).

Layout (altered very slightly during install):

Before/After:

Don't mind the clutter or disorganization, the space is still a work in progress.

I am thrilled with the results. Thanks to everyone else who has shared their advice and experiences.

Very nice! I am building a 20x30 with 10' right now and went with the same fixtures (12) and similar 4000k bulbs. Haven't got the electrical in yet to see how the lights will do so your pics give me a good idea how they will look. I thought about the 5000k but I felt like it would be too bright for my eyes. Glad I went with the 4000k now. The plan is to run them in 3 rows of 4 lengthwise down the garage and in two or three circuits so I don't have to have them on all at once if not needed.

 

[Kroezer95]

Ok, first timer here. All I have to say is wow! After reading through this forum and especially Platonic Solid's gifted wisdom, I realize how much there is to learn to do this "right".

Perhaps Platonic or one of you guys that know how to use those fancy softwares can help me with the attached floor plan of my garage remodel i did in Visio? Do I have enough fixtures(i think i do per visual-3d) in the right place? Not sure how to "properly" lay them out; I saw many layouts with the fixture 2-3ft off the walls? Or you can just tell me I'm over thinking this, haha

A few considerations I made in this layout based on what I've read here on a low 7'6" ceiling height:

1. Targeting 80-90FC at 30" workplane for a woodworking multipurpose shop (no cars). Is that a good FC #?
2. Ceiling and walls will be drywalled and white
3. I went with UL, DLC rated high quality fixtures from Light Efficient Design
https://www.led-llc.com/lbi -25w, 5000k 3654lm per fixture configuration.
4. Went with frosted lens, lower lumen per fixture, to reduce glare due to low ceiling
5. Really wanted something extremely low profile in a flush mount design as I'm swinging lumber around frequently. The above fixtures are only 1.2" My ceiling is new construction, but only 12" OC so most recessed fixtures are out.
6. Avoided down lights for shadowing and flat panels with flush mount kits just got too pricey along with possible glare.
7. Wanting to keep the budget under $1,000. Found these at LED Lighting Wholesalers for $38 each

Well, that's where my reading and research has taking me thus far...now to figure out where to place them. Any thoughts, suggestions, comments or concerns?

Thanks all, much appreciated!!

 

[not enoughsmoke]

Hey been reading thru this thread and trying to decide what to do on my shop layout basically my Shop space is 76X48x18 the whole inside of the shop will be covered in white Sheetmetal ceiling /walls and all i have been reading for ideal lighting (foot-candles)80-100 i am thinking closer to 100 or more. I have contacted 2 lighting companies and both have recommended high bay lights for the height of the ceilings how ever the foot-candles rating they are recommending are low 46 and 52 these are the # i found on here from another thread the downside tot he highbay lights i am seeing is dark areas closer tot the ceiling and i want it to be daylight bright.
auto service garage 60-80
body shop 80-120
wood working shop 60-80
machine shop - medium detail 75-100
machine shop - fine detail 100-200

any insight would be greatly appreciated