Lighting help for 50x64x16 shop

[Weeeee]

I am in the process of planning to build a 50x64x16 pole barn shop/ toy storage. The interior will be concrete floor not painted and the ceiling and walls will be white steel.

I need to figure out rather quickly what will work best for lighting and I am hoping someone here can help me out.

The plan is to use the shop for storage of a Jeep, ATV's, Sleds, Tractor and various implements. I will be using it to work on all of these toys as well as some woodworking and homebrew beer.

My guess is that VHO lighting would work good but not sure where to begin. I am also thinking that I want to be able to only turn on parts of the shops lights to conserve energy when I don't need the entire shop lighted. Possibly wire it into quadrants and only turn on what is needed. Any thoughts?

 

[2ManyProjects]

I am in the process of planning to build a 50x64x16 pole barn shop/ toy storage. The interior will be concrete floor not painted and the ceiling and walls will be white steel.

I need to figure out rather quickly what will work best for lighting and I am hoping someone here can help me out.

Start by reviewing the existing threads here on GJ. This same (and/or VERY similar) topic has been discussed REPEATEDLY, including several times just within the last month or so.

Then, if/when you have some SPECIFIC questions, feel free to holler.

 

[Charles (in GA)]

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230754

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227384

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229797

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229361

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118182

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=228231

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227630

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174488

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226676

 

[600SL]

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230754

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227384

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229797

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229361

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118182

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=228231

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227630

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174488

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226676

Nice source of info.

Thank You

 

[Weeeee]

Sorry for the broad post earlier and thanks for all the links.

I am using the lighting tool I found in one of the threads and came up with a first plan but I have some questions.
http://www.visual-3d.com/tools/inte...ack=1&uid=413088&oauth_token=vJS4xsyX6cgBylaQ

I think I want to use Lithonia IBZ 654 from HD 6 and played with the tool above to come up with this. I want 100 fc but I am unclear on some of the settings in the tool. My walls and ceiling will be metal in snow white and the floor will be concrete. Is 80% reflectences close enough for the walls and ceiling, and 20% for the concrete floor?

What style of light puts out the best broad light coverage, Wide distribution?

 

[2ManyProjects]

Sorry for the broad post earlier and thanks for all the links.

I am using the lighting tool I found in one of the threads and came up with a first plan but I have some questions.
http://www.visual-3d.com/tools/inte...ack=1&uid=413088&oauth_token=vJS4xsyX6cgBylaQ

I think I want to use Lithonia IBZ 654 from HD 6 and played with the tool above to come up with this.

One of the things you SHOULD have gleaned from reviewing those old threads is that you are concentrating FAR too much lighting power into FAR too few sources, each of which is MUCH too far from the next one.

I want 100 fc but I am unclear on some of the settings in the tool. My walls and ceiling will be metal in snow white and the floor will be concrete. Is 80% reflectences close enough for the walls and ceiling, and 20% for the concrete floor?

Those values are in the ballpark, for new CLEAN surfaces. After they've gotten dirty, and/or had "stuff" stored on and/or attached to them. things go South from there.

What style of light puts out the best broad light coverage, Wide distribution?

As you should also have discerned from the prior art: NOT the ones you cited, or anything else designated "High Bay" for that matter.

 

[Weeeee]

Forgive me but I am no clearly no lighting expert so I came to this forum to ask some questions. I clearly asked too broad of a question in my opening post.

So I was asked to post some specific questions which I did but apparently not SPECIFIC enough!

I apparently did not glean what I should have from reading many posts and thanks for pointing that out 2 ManyProjects.

This is a huge amount of information to digest and I am just looking for some help.

So I should be using something more along the lines of more fixtures with less bulbs like an IBZ 454?

I am not clear on what High Bay means and if these are the correct light for the application.

I only added in the Wide distribution option because I am not sure what is the correct light, Lithonia seems to have an endless number of options and once again I am not a lighting engineer, just a guy looking for some help from some experts.

 

[2ManyProjects]

This is a huge amount of information to digest and I am just looking for some help.

So I should be using something more along the lines of more fixtures with less bulbs like an IBZ 454?

That's a step in the right direction. Whether it goes far enough is debatable at best. Beyond that, we'd need to know a LOT more about your shop, and how you plan to use it, in order to offer an even marginally useful specific recommendation.

I am not clear on what High Bay means and if these are the correct light for the application.

"High Bay" denotes that the fixture is designed to focus most of its output more-or-less straight down, as opposed to letting it spread out to the sides. Hence, as compared to otherwise similar "normal" fixtures, "High Bay" models will be brighter directly under the fixture, but DIMMER once you move more than a few feet off center. It follows from this that such "High Bay" fixtures need to be mounted much higher than "normal" fixtures, in order to cover the same amount of area at "working height". Or, to look at it the other way around, for the same mounting height, "High Bay" fixtures need to be much closer together in order to avoid alternating "hot spots" and dim/shadowy areas.

 

[600SL]

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I think I want to use Lithonia IBZ 654 from HD 6 and played with the tool above to come up with this. I want 100 fc but I am unclear on some of the settings in the tool.

Based on this article and others I have read I'm going to stick with T8 fixtures for my 30 x 48 x 10 garage. I haven't selected them yet. Still doing home work.

My goal is to get 50 cf overall lighting with the flip of one switch with extra light in task areas like work benches etc to bring those areas up to 100cf.

I'm hoping to do one 28x30 section with 4 fixtures and a 20x30 section with 3 for the overall lighting.

Still planning.

 

[600SL]

As of now my 28x30 garage is looking like 6 Lithonia TL 2 32 putting out 57 fc.

It appears for my low ceiling application without an aperture is the better solution.

 

[Angelfire]

Not sure if this will help but I found this article to be helpful for me:

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/content.php?146-Lighting-the-Small-Workshop-by-Jack-Lindsey

 

[jomobco]

I ended up with looking at it from a lumens per sq' basis. I would do more than less. I organized mine into 3 rows cut into thirds with switches. East half of shop, middle half and West half on 3 separate switches. I did a 3 way switch on the second walk door on the opposite end of the main walk door to the middle bank. My garage doors are on the South side. Keep reading, you'll figure it out.