Bessy
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You will. It's inevitable.
Above 1200 Sq/FT LilScorpion’s Fab Space
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
You will. It's inevitable.
Yes...my 2nd one shows up this week lol
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lilscorpion
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Works well as designed.
Continued to make more drawer pulls too. Still have a lot to go.
New pull in this lot is for the Systainer drawers which I found difficult to open before. I had thought the Systainer itself would be sufficient but the way the handle lays made it not as easy to get at as I thought.
Pull converts the slide out to a fully functioning drawer with the benefit of removal so I can take the parts to the work as needed. The machines recesses in the bottom trap the Systainer in its spot preventing moving at all.
Design flows nicely with the traditional drawers when closed
Continued to make more drawer pulls too. Still have a lot to go.
New pull in this lot is for the Systainer drawers which I found difficult to open before. I had thought the Systainer itself would be sufficient but the way the handle lays made it not as easy to get at as I thought.
Pull converts the slide out to a fully functioning drawer with the benefit of removal so I can take the parts to the work as needed. The machines recesses in the bottom trap the Systainer in its spot preventing moving at all.
Design flows nicely with the traditional drawers when closed
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lilscorpion
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Spent too many hours messing with shop doors…
Had some issues getting contours to work correctly in fusion 360. Cut maybe a dozen die profiles.
Figure it out tho, got there
Had some issues getting contours to work correctly in fusion 360. Cut maybe a dozen die profiles.
Figure it out tho, got there
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lilscorpion
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shifting to inside the cabinets. Drill and driver racks. I keep two one the tool wall for fast access set up one with a magnetic Phillips and the other with a center drill. The rest go up in the cs one.
A “rack” stores two drills and/drivers but many when installed side-by-side.
A “rack” stores two drills and/drivers but many when installed side-by-side.
moab11
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All these custom brackets and such are just drool worthy!
tyyost
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Can’t wait to see what you have done in a month…
mercracing
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Any progress?
Every time I'm here I look for updates outta LS. And now that's its been a while I'm at odd's with it.
On one hand, I can't wait to see what perfection he's brought to the table which makes my day.
On the other hand, I don't want to see it because it'll just reminds me of how much of a slacker I am and ruin my day
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Bessy
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Consider it a kick in the pants to motivate you! I try that method myself, but I'm still a slacker. Still fun to watch this thread continue to unfold though!Every time I'm here I look for updates outta LS. And now that's its been a while I'm at odd's with it.
On one hand, I can't wait to see what perfection he's brought to the table which makes my day.
On the other hand, I don't want to see it because it'll just remind me of how much of a slacker I am and ruin my day
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lilscorpion
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ALLLLLLLLLLLL-RIGHTY THEN!!
I’ve done stuff, lots of stuff. Also 7 weeks of business travel in the last 8 weeks.
I don’t post pics of home remodel stuff because I feel it’s repetitive and because I really, more than anything, just want ‘em done…but I can…
The initial design was simple - make a bracket to mount an air cylinder to the gate and use an pneumatic valve to open and close the gate.
Looked really cool, and was fairly simple in design, but didn’t work. The gate would rack when the cylinder extended because it was bias to one side.
This is where I picked it back up - my idea was to use a really small linear rail to prevent the racking. Mount bearings to the main bracket and then a clamp on the arm/gate.
Here’s the modified bracket that the bearings will attach to.
Given how close the bearings are to the bend in the bracket, I decided I’ll hand drill them instead of expect the plasma table to do it. Fairly quick, here’s how it turned out.
Here’s the first testing of the 6” version. It worked first time (with enough air pressure).
Test success always had powder coating as a fast follow and then assembly.
And the completed unit.
Works very well.
I’ve done stuff, lots of stuff. Also 7 weeks of business travel in the last 8 weeks.
I don’t post pics of home remodel stuff because I feel it’s repetitive and because I really, more than anything, just want ‘em done…but I can…
- Remodeled the mudroom - tile, cabinets, new washer & dryer
- Remodeled the main floor 1/4 bath - tile floor new floating vanity
- Started remodel the basement 1/2 bath - tile floors…next vanity
The initial design was simple - make a bracket to mount an air cylinder to the gate and use an pneumatic valve to open and close the gate.
Looked really cool, and was fairly simple in design, but didn’t work. The gate would rack when the cylinder extended because it was bias to one side.
This is where I picked it back up - my idea was to use a really small linear rail to prevent the racking. Mount bearings to the main bracket and then a clamp on the arm/gate.
Here’s the modified bracket that the bearings will attach to.
Given how close the bearings are to the bend in the bracket, I decided I’ll hand drill them instead of expect the plasma table to do it. Fairly quick, here’s how it turned out.
Here’s the first testing of the 6” version. It worked first time (with enough air pressure).
Test success always had powder coating as a fast follow and then assembly.
And the completed unit.
Works very well.
SEE!, ya SEE that **** ^^^
I fn told you I'd feel like ****. Hell it was 4 weeks between visits to my new shop and what does Scorp pull off.....7 of 8 weeks outta town and he remodels half the house AND builds a damn Terminator arm JUST.. LIKE..THAT!
No ****.......and my goal is just buying colored zip ties.....I feel inadequate once again....SEE!, ya SEE that **** ^^^
I fn told you I'd feel like ****. Hell it was 4 weeks between visits to my new shop and what does Scorp pull off.....7 of 8 weeks outta town and he remodels half the house AND builds a damn Terminator arm JUST.. LIKE..THAT!
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XJSuperman
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After a week of travel I want to sit and unwind for another week. Not run off and travel again. Not remodel a house. Just unwind. Maybe catch up on sleep? I am now convinced Lilscorpion does not sleep. He can't, not enough hours in the day. The math doesn't add up.
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lilscorpion
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In my favor - traveling gives me time to get the parts I need for the following weekend. And the math - yeah I should have clarified on the remodels, I didn’t do the tile, I have a guy who would do the tile while I was gone. The weekend before I’d demo, the weekend after I’d build the cabinets, do drywall repair, paint, install cabinets/baseboards/stuffs, and then demo the next room so the tile guy could start Monday the following week. All cabinets are still unpainted but fully functional. We’re on the schedule to be measured for counter tops…so the rooms are fully usable. My port is (mostly) done.
I am tired. I felt like I was being chased and I guess I kinda was in a sense.
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lilscorpion
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Also came up with a new design for spray bottle holders. My last few organizational strategies used a very simple organizer that allowed the bottle to drop in from the top like this HDPE one.
Or this cart organizer
They’re very easy to creat for just about any size bottle but the design has its drawbacks. I have to allow space above them so I can get them out of the holder.
It seemed like it was wasting space that could be otherwise used for other stuff so I designed this new holder.
It instead had a ledge that the handle rests on and a cut out for the bottle.
It requires only a few inches above it to put the bottle away. Another up side is the same design holds all of the various sized bottles I have.
Or this cart organizer
They’re very easy to creat for just about any size bottle but the design has its drawbacks. I have to allow space above them so I can get them out of the holder.
It seemed like it was wasting space that could be otherwise used for other stuff so I designed this new holder.
It instead had a ledge that the handle rests on and a cut out for the bottle.
It requires only a few inches above it to put the bottle away. Another up side is the same design holds all of the various sized bottles I have.
bugnut
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Blast gate is just freakin awesome!!
zmotorsports
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Damn Matt. I "WAS" feeling pretty good about what I have gotten done this past week or so. 
Then I come here and see what you've been concocting, and I feel very inadequate.
Then I come here and see what you've been concocting, and I feel very inadequate.
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cccoltsicehockey
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The solutions you come up with to solve your problems and organizational needs are amazing. Love the blast door design. I now want automated doors in my dust collection system when I get around to building it. Manual seems like such a pain. Thanks for adding another item to my list.
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lilscorpion
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The little things….have this Baoman indicator light hooked up to one leg of the 3-phase powder in the shop so I can tell easily if the phase converter is on or not (it’s in the basement).
This little bracket allowed me to move it from sitting on the counter top to be up on the uni-strut higher on the wall.
At about 10’ I can see it from anywhere in the shop now.
Though a little project compared to others, It’s more finish than function which is an indicator of the overall progress in the shop.
This little bracket allowed me to move it from sitting on the counter top to be up on the uni-strut higher on the wall.
At about 10’ I can see it from anywhere in the shop now.
Though a little project compared to others, It’s more finish than function which is an indicator of the overall progress in the shop.
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lilscorpion
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Here’s some of the drawer customization I did in the mudroom. This drawer has always turned into a junk drawer full of all kinds of ****. Now it’s hyper organized.
And a drawer for vacuums, chargers, and attachments.
And a drawer for vacuums, chargers, and attachments.
gearhead1960
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Where are the 'D' batteries? 
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lilscorpion
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My kids are grown. Nothing uses D’a anymore.Where are the 'D' batteries?
Bawahahahahaha!!! Now that’s funny. I gotta slow down, pay attention, fix thatVery nice on the drawers. That's my goal - to get organized like that.
But.... I would have spelled that lower right one - "Kubota"
I saw that and thought it was a household joke! lol
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lilscorpion
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Wasn’t intended to be. Better fix it before it becomes one!
Double vacuums in the same drawer? That seems a bit excessive. I think if our vacuum was hidden it would never get used.
Great job as always on all of the organization. I went back in time on your thread yesterday to get some inspiration on 3D printed organization and colors.
Great job as always on all of the organization. I went back in time on your thread yesterday to get some inspiration on 3D printed organization and colors.
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lilscorpion
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Double vacuums because - we had one for upstairs and downstairs…then we bought a ranch. Keeping them central in one place does make it easier. Batteries don’t come off (easily) like cordless tools so when one runs down, you just swap the whole damn thing.
…and we bought a ranch.
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lilscorpion
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Putting in cycles on the powder coating oven(s). The door was made with pre-drilled locating holes. “All I had to do” was drill them to size and install nutzerts.
The door is set up for 5 of these extreme duty hinges. Oddly I had only ordered four…huh. So I got another set on the way and installed the four I had.
This 7’ x 46” oven door weighs more than 200lbs. Probably about 230. Swings like butter.
The door is set up for 5 of these extreme duty hinges. Oddly I had only ordered four…huh. So I got another set on the way and installed the four I had.
This 7’ x 46” oven door weighs more than 200lbs. Probably about 230. Swings like butter.
slodat
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How do you navigate the oven floor being above the shop floor?
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lilscorpion
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I’ve been thinking about how I’ll load (especially heavy and large) things. The structure built into the oven is designed to support heavy loads hanging from the ceiling via overhead rail or trolley similar to this industrial setup -
I’ve been working on this oven planning and build now for years so I’ve had time to think it thru and I’m now not certain I want to have to figure out and commit to an overhead rail system in the shop. The ceiling is too high and I’m not confident enough in the idea to commit to the structure I’d need to build to make it work. I could make carts that have rails in the top which interface like this guy did - go to 12:30 in the video to see him load and 13:04 for unload.
Unrelated note - this guy happens to talk thru the multi-coat process (flowing out, cooling, adding second coat/clear) fairly well.
What I like about it is I could have a larger cart, maybe double the depth of the oven, and have two loads on it from either end for unloading/cooling and a smaller cart for coating/loading.
Idea two I’m pondering is a cart on a cart more or less. It would be more complicated in some ways but easier in others.
This setup is double on complexity I think in that I’d now have carts that go in the oven and the base cart or carts. That said, the base cart wound t be nearly as tall as this one, mine would only need to be about 8” tall.
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I’ve been thinking about how I’ll load (especially heavy and large) things. The structure built into the oven is designed to support heavy loads hanging from the ceiling via overhead rail or trolley similar to this industrial setup -
I’ve been working on this oven planning and build now for years so I’ve had time to think it thru and I’m now not certain I want to have to figure out and commit to an overhead rail system in the shop. The ceiling is too high and I’m not confident enough in the idea to commit to the structure I’d need to build to make it work. I could make carts that have rails in the top which interface like this guy did - go to 12:30 in the video to see him load and 13:04 for unload.
Unrelated note - this guy happens to talk thru the multi-coat process (flowing out, cooling, adding second coat/clear) fairly well.
What I like about it is I could have a larger cart, maybe double the depth of the oven, and have two loads on it from either end for unloading/cooling and a smaller cart for coating/loading.
Idea two I’m pondering is a cart on a cart more or less. It would be more complicated in some ways but easier in others.
This setup is double on complexity I think in that I’d now have carts that go in the oven and the base cart or carts. That said, the base cart wound t be nearly as tall as this one, mine would only need to be about 8” tall.
Way too simple!
You should build carts with folding legs (like a gurney loads into an ambulance)!
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lilscorpion
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Almost getting caught up. Couple of joggers before Christmas spent time on the kitchen, doors this time.
Have a few more to make for the main cabinets.
Also got some router brackets coated.
Lookin good in Prismatics Speedway grey
Decided to keep the tripple oven. Cut out the electronics.
And the ridiculous amount of wires
Slid the unit up so I can add a drawer or two below
Mounted the new control panel and fit it with conduit making sure it can still sit flush to the walls
Then wires up the lights, elements, and a wire for the convection blower when it gets here.
Capped the wire ends with ferrels and terminated them into the appropriate spots in the panel.
Have a few more to make for the main cabinets.
Also got some router brackets coated.
Lookin good in Prismatics Speedway grey
Decided to keep the tripple oven. Cut out the electronics.
And the ridiculous amount of wires
Slid the unit up so I can add a drawer or two below
Mounted the new control panel and fit it with conduit making sure it can still sit flush to the walls
Then wires up the lights, elements, and a wire for the convection blower when it gets here.
Capped the wire ends with ferrels and terminated them into the appropriate spots in the panel.
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lilscorpion
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K, done for now and almost ready to go back into service. Sweet
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lilscorpion
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Spent the last few days rockin on the kitchen. Making progress but nothing installed, just lots of drawers and doors. These two are for the monster pots and pans drawers.
The rest are piled up on one of the counters. At this point the process is dialed in. I have a spreadsheet that handles all the calculations for both doors and drawers based on a few simple measurements. In Fusion I have a few models that are built using functions. By adding just three parameters, I can kick out the cut files for the router. Im three doors away from having all of them done but ran out of wood. Figures
Out of wood, I now have a day I can focus on the project pile. As of late I’ve been focused on trying to clear the counters of pending projects and parts instead of sticking to a single project. I want the damn counter tops clean and usable.
Fabbed up a bracket to mount ann indicator light I bought for the large oven. I’ve decided that I want as many if the machines in the shop to have indicator lights that are visible from anywhere in the shop. This will wire into the oven’s control panel with green showing the oven is on/heating and red indicating the timer has expired.
A project that’s been on the counter collecting dust for about a year is a pedestal for the plasma table. I made four of the parts while I was playing with the Titan press breaks for the first time. All of these parts were made without the back gauge (manually measuring and marking each bend line.
This is the top for the keyboard and monitor.
This was part of the housing to hold the space for the plasma table.
And a few other doodads like feet for the pedestal, etc. this was a year ago and the parts have been in a pile taking up counter space very since.
Today I’m gonna k peck it out. Started by cutting the pedestal leg out if 2.5” x 3/16 square tube and got it fixtures up in the mill.
Need to drill holes for mounting the feet. Quick little program.
Fixtured it on the welding table and welded on the attaching plate for the keyboard and monitor top.
I find welding very satisfying. I sometimes miss production welding.
The rest are piled up on one of the counters. At this point the process is dialed in. I have a spreadsheet that handles all the calculations for both doors and drawers based on a few simple measurements. In Fusion I have a few models that are built using functions. By adding just three parameters, I can kick out the cut files for the router. Im three doors away from having all of them done but ran out of wood. Figures
Out of wood, I now have a day I can focus on the project pile. As of late I’ve been focused on trying to clear the counters of pending projects and parts instead of sticking to a single project. I want the damn counter tops clean and usable.
Fabbed up a bracket to mount ann indicator light I bought for the large oven. I’ve decided that I want as many if the machines in the shop to have indicator lights that are visible from anywhere in the shop. This will wire into the oven’s control panel with green showing the oven is on/heating and red indicating the timer has expired.
A project that’s been on the counter collecting dust for about a year is a pedestal for the plasma table. I made four of the parts while I was playing with the Titan press breaks for the first time. All of these parts were made without the back gauge (manually measuring and marking each bend line.
This is the top for the keyboard and monitor.
This was part of the housing to hold the space for the plasma table.
And a few other doodads like feet for the pedestal, etc. this was a year ago and the parts have been in a pile taking up counter space very since.
Today I’m gonna k peck it out. Started by cutting the pedestal leg out if 2.5” x 3/16 square tube and got it fixtures up in the mill.
Need to drill holes for mounting the feet. Quick little program.
Fixtured it on the welding table and welded on the attaching plate for the keyboard and monitor top.
I find welding very satisfying. I sometimes miss production welding.
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lilscorpion
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Next I installed the rivnuts in the bottom of the post.
The feet/legs were formed but not welded so a little buzz buzz and they were ready
Nice wide stance should be more than sufficient support
Only thing that looks nicer than a weld is a powder coated weld
Installed the keyboard and monitor onto the post.
Now I can mock up the PC box.
Good progress. More tomorrow…
The feet/legs were formed but not welded so a little buzz buzz and they were ready
Nice wide stance should be more than sufficient support
Only thing that looks nicer than a weld is a powder coated weld
Installed the keyboard and monitor onto the post.
Now I can mock up the PC box.
Good progress. More tomorrow…
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lilscorpion
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Computer pedestal continued…
The enclosure needs to be attached to the keyboard somehow. This part I had not figured out yet in cad. I decided to make a little lip/ledge and spot weld it in on the underside
With this in pace I can now stand up the assembly and get a look at it for the first time.
If you’re a computer guy this next step will make sense - there are different sized computer enclosures and i wanted to make sure that this pedestal wont need to be modified if I end up getting a different computer. the computer they ship with the Shop Saver plasma table is a mini enclosure so I needed to make a riser to take up the space in my housing. I also added stops to help lifts the PC front to back which will prevent the PC from moving internally front to back putting pressure and possibly damaging the cables and PC Cards.
In place it also strengthens the base.
The backside will face the plasma table and will need to be enclosed to protect the computer from the plasma and water splashing from the water table. The front side needs to allow access to the computer and have an opening large enough to slide it in. With the bones brake I can make this a single piece which also add significant strength to the assembly as well.
The other side will be for the back side of the computer and needs airflow as the back of the computer has multiple fans and provisions for the wiring to pass thru. These details are more interesting to watch being cut on the table.
And add a lot of character to the assembly as well when in place.
With all panels in place
With the computer loaded and pedestal in place
The enclosure needs to be attached to the keyboard somehow. This part I had not figured out yet in cad. I decided to make a little lip/ledge and spot weld it in on the underside
With this in pace I can now stand up the assembly and get a look at it for the first time.
If you’re a computer guy this next step will make sense - there are different sized computer enclosures and i wanted to make sure that this pedestal wont need to be modified if I end up getting a different computer. the computer they ship with the Shop Saver plasma table is a mini enclosure so I needed to make a riser to take up the space in my housing. I also added stops to help lifts the PC front to back which will prevent the PC from moving internally front to back putting pressure and possibly damaging the cables and PC Cards.
In place it also strengthens the base.
The backside will face the plasma table and will need to be enclosed to protect the computer from the plasma and water splashing from the water table. The front side needs to allow access to the computer and have an opening large enough to slide it in. With the bones brake I can make this a single piece which also add significant strength to the assembly as well.
The other side will be for the back side of the computer and needs airflow as the back of the computer has multiple fans and provisions for the wiring to pass thru. These details are more interesting to watch being cut on the table.
And add a lot of character to the assembly as well when in place.
With all panels in place
With the computer loaded and pedestal in place
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lilscorpion
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An important part of the design I glossed over initially was the placement of the feet. To maximize space I wanted the pedestal to more or less interlock with the corner of the plasma table and fit somewhat tightly into it when in place while also making it impossible for a passing cart to run into the feet.
The height of the top was importsnt as well. In position the gantry will pass by more or less under the top but with plenty of room, 6-8” in all directions.
One of the problems with my old makeshift computer stand was I’d occasionally bump it while passing my with material or a cart and knock the monitor off. So far I’ve caught it before it hits the floor but eventually I’ll run out of luck so I need to make the mount more permanent. I made an arm that attaches off the back of the pedestal and an offset to get the angle right.
The monitor will be offset as to maximize my view of the table while standing in front of the pedestal. This will help mostly for positioning the material before a cut.
Monitor attached, base now removed as well
Final touch is swapping in a cordless keyboard and mouse. For now I’ll leave it bare metal but plan to powder coat it once the large oven is up and running.
The height of the top was importsnt as well. In position the gantry will pass by more or less under the top but with plenty of room, 6-8” in all directions.
One of the problems with my old makeshift computer stand was I’d occasionally bump it while passing my with material or a cart and knock the monitor off. So far I’ve caught it before it hits the floor but eventually I’ll run out of luck so I need to make the mount more permanent. I made an arm that attaches off the back of the pedestal and an offset to get the angle right.
The monitor will be offset as to maximize my view of the table while standing in front of the pedestal. This will help mostly for positioning the material before a cut.
Monitor attached, base now removed as well
Final touch is swapping in a cordless keyboard and mouse. For now I’ll leave it bare metal but plan to powder coat it once the large oven is up and running.
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