Looking for simple sealer

ExxWhy · Feb 25, 2016

I'm looking for something simple that goes on over a clean floor to help keep out oil and fluid stains.

40X44 building with 5" of 4000 PSI concrete, hand troweled to a smooth finish. They sprayed on some sort of cure sealer when it was poured, but otherwise it's fresh concrete, poured last May. I'm good with how it looks as is.

I'd like to be able to clean up oil and fluid spills easily, just want something to seal the concrete. Low cost is important.

I was looking at something like Ghost Shield or TrueLock PPC. Either seems to fit the bill, are there other products that anyone would recommend?

Does the cure sealer have any effect on what I can put down? I could find out exactly what they used if it helps, but I don't know at the moment.

LegacyIndustrial · Feb 25, 2016

It will block sealers. Needs to be stripped or sanded off to allow penetration.

If you want an invisible sealer check out our SilaxSeal. Excellent protection for a better price .

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naturalgas · Feb 25, 2016

LegacyIndustrial said:
It will block sealers. Needs to be stripped or sanded off to allow penetration.

If you want an invisible sealer check out our SilaxSeal. Excellent protection for a better price .

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I don't want to hijack thread ,but how would you strip or sand off cure sealer. I'm looking for same thing . My slab is only two months old.

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LegacyIndustrial · Feb 25, 2016

It could be sanded off using a 60 grit sanding screen on a floor buffer.

Strippers are available on the net. We have one.

http://www.legacyindustrial.net/products/etch-cleaners-wax/hd357-acid-etch-clone.html

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bdamico · Feb 25, 2016

How do you test for sealers that would interfere for unknown slab--water absorption test like you would for epoxy?

Shea · Feb 26, 2016

bdamico said:
How do you test for sealers that would interfere for unknown slab--water absorption test like you would for epoxy?

Yep. You are basically checking for the same thing as you would before deciding whether to acid etch or have to grind due to a sealer. Cure and seals are the most common reason people can't acid etch.

ExxWhy · Feb 26, 2016

The chemical stripper looks like it would blow the budget. To be more specific with "low cost" I mean under $1000 for the whole job.

How much sanding is involved to get the cure sealer off? How do I know when enough is enough? Should I do a water test with taping down plastic?

LegacyIndustrial · Feb 26, 2016

I can't tell you how much sanding will be needed without seeing it. However, if just a thin sealer as you described, should be a few hours and a stack of screens at worse case.

Note, that this will "scuff" the surface in the process, it's unavoidable.

Garage Flooring · Feb 26, 2016

ExxWhy said:
I'm looking for something simple that goes on over a clean floor to help keep out oil and fluid stains.

40X44 building with 5" of 4000 PSI concrete, hand troweled to a smooth finish. They sprayed on some sort of cure sealer when it was poured, but otherwise it's fresh concrete, poured last May. I'm good with how it looks as is.

I'd like to be able to clean up oil and fluid spills easily, just want something to seal the concrete. Low cost is important.

I was looking at something like Ghost Shield or TrueLock PPC. Either seems to fit the bill, are there other products that anyone would recommend?

Does the cure sealer have any effect on what I can put down? I could find out exactly what they used if it helps, but I don't know at the moment.

The two product you mentioned are awesome. Do you know what brand and product was used for a cure n seal? Does water penetrate or bead?

ExxWhy · Feb 27, 2016

I would say water penetrates. I do not know what product they used, left em a message to call back with that info. It's a contractor, we'll see if they ever do!

Would good close up pictures help?

Armorpoxy · Feb 29, 2016

Hi
We would recommend our SPGX one part polyurea. It sticks to virtually anything. If you contact us we will send you a small sample n/c to test. You may have to lightly scuff it up with a sanding pad. Cost is around 30-35 cents/ sq ft.

joes169 · Feb 29, 2016

We use "TK Final Seal 290" regularily over water-based curing sealers without issue. It's the only penetrating sealer I know of that will re-emulsify the existing sealer nd penetrate through it. You may be able to find it locally at ready-mix or construction supply yard.

http://www.tkproducts.com/products/water_repellent/TDS/TK290_FinalSeal.pdf

Kevin54 · Feb 29, 2016

Take a look at some of these for a low cost sealer. https://www.grainger.com/category/f...=6&searchRedirect=floor+sealer&searchBar=true

Garage Flooring · Feb 29, 2016

Kevin54 said:
Take a look at some of these for a low cost sealer. https://www.grainger.com/category/f...=6&searchRedirect=floor+sealer&searchBar=true

These look more like what you would use on a commercial vinyl or rubber floor than concrete. Similar to our Hilway Direct Plus. Not going to do what you want, that was not the right link -- but there were several products.

Kevin54 · Mar 1, 2016

My mistake, here is the correct link https://www.grainger.com/search?nls=3&ssf=3&searchBar=true&searchQuery=concrete+floor+sealer

Garage Flooring · Mar 1, 2016

Kevin54 said:
My mistake, here is the correct link https://www.grainger.com/search?nls=3&ssf=3&searchBar=true&searchQuery=concrete+floor+sealer

Lot of products there. More of what you are looking for than the first. With Acrylics you just have to ask yourself if it will hold up for you. They are not generally very chemical resistant. Some tolerate a little oil. Some don't. We sell acrylics but tend not to suggest them for the garage

LegacyIndustrial · Mar 1, 2016

Now this is a simple sealer to install.
Can you roll paint? Then you can install Nohr-S Polyurea.

Theo911 · Mar 1, 2016

is that dry?

LegacyIndustrial · Mar 1, 2016

Yes, dry. Even has a little non-skid in it.

Chuck Baggs · Mar 1, 2016

If the concrete guys used a fair amount of Curing agent, during the pour, that will likely act like a bond breaker, so if you don't want to put alot into prep, like sanding, grinding or stripper a great option is a floor wax. Floor wax is cheap, easy to apply with a mop and if you don't like how a couple coats of wax looks in a year or two, just strip it off with ammonia & hot water easily!

Wax is cheap and be bought at smart & final, home depot. I did this in my old garage shop ( I did 2 coats). It worked well and was cheap. A gallon of floor goes about 600-800 sq ft per gallon.

Good luck!

ExxWhy · Mar 2, 2016

A product called e cure http://www.specchemllc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/E-Cure-Tech-Sheet.pdf was used for the curing. It claims "Will not inhibit adhesion of secondary coatings, topping, or adhesives designed for concrete."

The distributor recommended a product called SLX100. They use it in schools and stores a lot.

The more I look into this, the more I see there are lot's of choices! Getting analysis paralysis!

Kevin54 · Mar 3, 2016

LegacyIndustrial said:
Now this is a simple sealer to install.
Can you roll paint? Then you can install Nohr-S Polyurea.

How much would it cost to do 2200 sq. ft. using what you show? I may be interested in it for my garage.

Garage Flooring · Mar 3, 2016

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5319891

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