Looking for wall framing advice.

[MopardudeWI]

Going to be framing out the inside of my shop soon in order to insulate it. I have 2 wall sections like this (see my attachment) where the window is up tight to the post so i can't run any full length studs on that side. I also plan on putting ceiling joists that will sit on top of this wall. Can I make up the strength by lag bolting the top of the wall to the post or is there a better way to go about this?

 

[19Vert64]

Had same issue and did mine like this


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[The Cobbler]

probably depends on how much weight you want the joists to hold? is it just for a ceiling, or is it for storage above?

You could probably run a header over the window and use a joist hanger at the post
if you do like the above poster, and you're using it for storage above, I would run a built up beam along the wall to run your joists off of

 

[K'ledgeBldr]

Put a header in to span the window opening- a double hanger with inside nail flange on the post and a double stud on the other side of the window.

 

[19Vert64]

Should add that I was not adding joists on top and don’t need it to hold any significant loads


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[dfiler2]

I would wait until the wall covering is on then make jamb extentions that come out flush to the inside. You could use 1/2" material along the pole, then put your inside trim on.

http://stonehavenlife.com/how-to-make-window-jamb-extensions/

Unlike the diagram in the link, your extensions would **** against the window stop.

What are you putting on the walls?

 

[larry4406]

Off topic but this seems to be one of the reasons to stick frame vs pole barn?

 

[Daniel Dudley]

If you went with spray foam you could just hang inner girts and put your sheet goods on those after spraying. There are a lot of ways to skin a cat. The barn is already built, so you don't need major structural wall framing. Some guys would use foam sheets and screw furring strips through to the outer girts.

 

[MopardudeWI]

probably depends on how much weight you want the joists to hold? is it just for a ceiling, or is it for storage above?

You could probably run a header over the window and use a joist hanger at the post
if you do like the above poster, and you're using it for storage above, I would run a built up beam along the wall to run your joists off of

Yea it is just to create a ceiling so I can insulate it. Your thinking along the same ways I was kinda thinking, didn't realize I could use a joist hanger to accomplish this, good idea.

 

[MopardudeWI]

What are you putting on the walls?

Was kinda leaning towards 1/2 ply or even some sort 4x8 sheets of siding so I have the ability to have a good screw surface to where ever I may want to mount stuff to the walls.

 

[MopardudeWI]

Off topic but this seems to be one of the reasons to stick frame vs pole barn?

I would say no. The previous home owner built this polebarn, so his needs were probably not the same as mine if he never insulated it. If i was building new I would just make sure the windows weren't placed so stupidly. lol I have 3 windows in this pole barn and only 2 of are tight to post like this was just the way the spaced them out.

 

[MopardudeWI]

If you went with spray foam you could just hang inner girts and put your sheet goods on those after spraying. There are a lot of ways to skin a cat. The barn is already built, so you don't need major structural wall framing. Some guys would use foam sheets and screw furring strips through to the outer girts.

True, I contemplated going foam the main reason I didn't I am just going to go around doing each section between the beams as I can afford and when I have time to do it. I run a side business out of this shop so even though I don't really take on jobs this time of year because its cold as hell out there and burn a lot of propane to do so, plus I still have jobs going on I am finally getting too. It would just be a pain in the **** to have a crew come spray a section or 2 or 3 at a time or to even dismantle my whole shop to make it happen.

 

[MopardudeWI]

Should add that I was not adding joists on top and don’t need it to hold any significant loads


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Out of curiosity sake how did you go about your ceiling?

 

[19Vert64]

Out of curiosity sake how did you go about your ceiling?

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[MopardudeWI]

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Interesting I contemplated this as well, the only thing is I want the insulation covered up. I am not sure how much weight can be hung from a truss.

 

[19Vert64]

Interesting I contemplated this as well, the only thing is I want the insulation covered up. I am not sure how much weight can be hung from a truss.

Going with a ribbed pvc panel for the ceiling to reduce weight


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[TractorJeff]

Seen as you are in Whitewater. That maybe a Menards building? Either way whomever designed it (Cleary?) should be able to tell you what the truss can handle for ceiling loads. I bought Trusses from Menards and the End Trusses had the ratings stamped on them.

 

[MopardudeWI]

Seen as you are in Whitewater. That maybe a Menards building? Either way whomever designed it (Cleary?) should be able to tell you what the truss can handle for ceiling loads. I bought Trusses from Menards and the End Trusses had the ratings stamped on them.

Sorry guy I didn't see your reply. Yes it is a Menards building built by A&K of Elkhorn. What kind of tractors and trucks you building down there in Elkhorn?