Yeah I love sketch up. I actually originally designed this garage in sketch up but had to hire a CAD guy in the end because the county wouldn't accept my sketch ups for permits. They were way detailed too! I thought you weren't supposed to store on a two post? I was looking at two post asymmetrical lifts. After going around and around and around I just decided on the four. I like the height I can get. Like nearly 7' of lift. I'm 6'2" so that'll be nice.
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Yeah I love sketch up. I actually originally designed this garage in sketch up but had to hire a CAD guy in the end because the county wouldn't accept my sketch ups for permits. They were way detailed too! I thought you weren't supposed to store on a two post? I was looking at two post asymmetrical lifts. After going around and around and around I just decided on the four. I like the height I can get. Like nearly 7' of lift. I'm 6'2" so that'll be nice.
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One thing I had my electrician do was to put a generator transfer switch out in the detached garage which is set up to run the house. This way when we lose electric the generator is running out at the detached garage and we can't even hear it. Great build btw, I'm enjoying following the progress.
seth928
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Lyle....I wish I saw this sooner! Our builds are similar in some ways regarding open bays and a loft...other than that, very different. I was going to mention that your lift area is going to be very very tight....I know because I have the same problem....I actually am considering a single post. Also I am glad you took the advice given on here about compaction!!! I literally flooded my slab area 3 separate days..let it sit for 10 months....compacted dense grade material for 2 full days prior to my pour! I am a landscape contractor and install hard-scapes as well....base is everything! Great looking build...look forward to more pics!
I'd love to see pics of your build, Seth. Yeah my lift pit is going to be tight. I'm probably going to have to go with the short, skinny, and tall 9k bendpak. oh well.
hopefully I compacted everything enough. we got a bunch of rain and it was compacted a couple times...sat for about a month i guess. nowhere near your 10!
Here are a couple shots from this morning...no workers today.
milner351
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Wow - amazing looking building.
Are you planning on putting a gutter across the front?
I would worry about it getting torn off by sliding snow during winter thaws. The house I grew up in had a similar situation over the front porch - I put that gutter back up for my parents many times - even good old copper is no match for a massive slide of ice and snow.
Are you planning on putting a gutter across the front?
I would worry about it getting torn off by sliding snow during winter thaws. The house I grew up in had a similar situation over the front porch - I put that gutter back up for my parents many times - even good old copper is no match for a massive slide of ice and snow.
vr4joe
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Wow!!!
This is such a great project! Subscribed!
This is such a great project! Subscribed!
seth928
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Lyle you can see my build here
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135752
I look forward to your progress....subscribed
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That's a good point. We only get enough snow to worry about that about once every 3-4 years here though. The gutters will be on either side of the dormer. No gutter under the dormer since it will be a working one and that would get in the way. I actually like the look of no gutters, but the dripping would be beyond annoying. And we do get rain!
Lyle you can see my build here
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135752
I look forward to your progress....subscribed
very nice...I just checked it all out. I really like it!
Man, that's a great idea, can't wait to see that completed. As for the compressor, it's in a corner of the garage, so no insulating or venting. It is quiet compared to all the older oil less ones I have had in the past. It runs at very low rpm hence it is quieter, if you ever are shopping, hit me up and i will send you all the details. It is a nice piece.
I got kinda stupid and polished all the copper lines, they look pretty cool, but probably not
the best use of my time. No photos up yet, but at some point I will get them up. Look forward to seeing the functional dormer photos.
BK
I got kinda stupid and polished all the copper lines, they look pretty cool, but probably not
the best use of my time. No photos up yet, but at some point I will get them up. Look forward to seeing the functional dormer photos.
BK
Last time I checked in, you just had the foundation poured. It's coming along nicely and looking great. I can't wait to see the project finished.
BTW, your neighbors have a nice looking house too.
BTW, your neighbors have a nice looking house too.
e-tek
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Great looking building - love the loft space. You've done a lot!
Nice looking houses for sure - hope everyone can afford them....
Nice looking houses for sure - hope everyone can afford them....
Thanks guys...certainly do hope everyone can afford their houses! These days the mortgage market has tightened up a LOT (as it should have always been) so it's harder to be overextended like was the norm of the 2000s. Who knows though. Things can change in an instant and catch people off guard!
got my 26X40 going on, what grid did they go on the rebar? did you also lay mesh down?
lookin good
I'm not exactly sure what grid they did on the rebar. It looked like 1-2' squares when they were done. No mesh but went with 6.5" of fiber reinforced 3500lb concrete which they said they'd be able to park a dump truck on. I have no idea but it sounded good!
They started insulation today. Not sure if they ran out of foam or what but they only got like half done today. Should be real tight when they're done though. It gets real windy and cold at the base of these mountains so I wanted something pretty decent. Spray foam seems to do the trick.
Insulation going in.
I'm hoping the spray foam type really seals this puppy up tight. The wind here by the mountains is terrible!
I need to take some finished shots, but it does make a huge difference. Even with the garage doors wide open still it's much warmer in there just with the insulation. Hopefully the doors and brick will be done this week. Then it's just paint and final trim work, etc. Shouldn't be too much longer!
Any good recommendations on epoxy for the floor?
I'm hoping the spray foam type really seals this puppy up tight. The wind here by the mountains is terrible!
I need to take some finished shots, but it does make a huge difference. Even with the garage doors wide open still it's much warmer in there just with the insulation. Hopefully the doors and brick will be done this week. Then it's just paint and final trim work, etc. Shouldn't be too much longer!
Any good recommendations on epoxy for the floor?
What aer they figuring the R rating is going to be with the spray foam ?
One thing I'm curious about is the exposed foundation, not that it's a bad thing or anything like that. Since it gets cold there and the concrete is exposed, I wonder it that will act as a heat sink and draw heat directly out of the floor making it continually harder to heat ?
Do you have any palns to cover it up with some type of insulation or bring the grade up around the garage foundation ?
EDIT: This is the stuff I was wondering about, I knew Menards carried it. Actually I was thinking about using it on the rear of our house which has a crawlspace.
http://www.menards.com/main/buildin...ted-aggregate-foundation-panels/p-1458145.htm
One thing I'm curious about is the exposed foundation, not that it's a bad thing or anything like that. Since it gets cold there and the concrete is exposed, I wonder it that will act as a heat sink and draw heat directly out of the floor making it continually harder to heat ?
Do you have any palns to cover it up with some type of insulation or bring the grade up around the garage foundation ?
EDIT: This is the stuff I was wondering about, I knew Menards carried it. Actually I was thinking about using it on the rear of our house which has a crawlspace.
http://www.menards.com/main/buildin...ted-aggregate-foundation-panels/p-1458145.htm
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I think they said R38. My builder talked me out of putting radiant heat in the floor. That would have been much better, but was thousands more. The foundation is going to be bricked and then the grade will be brought up a bit around it as well. It will certainly be exposed though. I'm hoping 2 mini-split ductless units will keep it warm enough. I'm not trying to keep it 74 in the winter or anything. Probably 65 or so. Just want to make it comfortable to work in year round. We will see!
R38 ? That's awesome.
Homebody
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Great looking garage, Love it!
Gonna have a deck and stairs for the side and rear service doors?
Gonna have a deck and stairs for the side and rear service doors?
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Electrical is pretty much roughed in. Some update pics.
Side.
See? I knew there was something about this build I liked. I mean, aside from it not appearing so be some over the top, deep pockets, garage mahal. It's a Bronco home!
Thanks Homebody! There's going to be a small deck off the back and a little pad off the side with stairs down to walk around the outside. No rear service door? The back sits about 7' off the ground, but there will be a regular 6'8" door to the deck. Deck is really more for storing the compressor under it along with some yard equipment. I'm not going to seal it up tight, but will make it dry underneath.
R2 ? You didin't get doors with more insulation ?
You will be amazed by the spray foam especially in the summer. It will cut your second floor temps to a max of about 85 ish degrees because of its radiant properties.
In 50 degree temps you can practically heat the structure with light bulbs.
We did just the roof in our 1950s bungalow and our bills dropped by almost 40 percent and now HVAC system is too large for the house.
In 50 degree temps you can practically heat the structure with light bulbs.
We did just the roof in our 1950s bungalow and our bills dropped by almost 40 percent and now HVAC system is too large for the house.
I did actually...I just made up the r2 number kind of as a joke. I figure they're so large and everytime I open them I'll lose tons of heat/cool. I got some sort of Wayne Dalton doors that have the highest insulation they offer. It's not that great though. We have them on our attached garage and they cut the wind, but certainly don't keep it tight and warm!
This is awesome to hear! I was told by the insulation guys that it would be super tight. I would love for the HVAC to end up being over-sized because I only went with the ductless split units and have been worried about them not being able to handle the big open space. I am planning on putting a circulation fan on the opposite side from the wall units to move all the air around.
Spring and Fall are nice by us, but we get real cold in the winter and real hot in the summer. Certainly have all 4 seasons here in central VA!
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Lyle....it's been a while since I have been on your thread, but man, the garage is looking sweet. I bet you're just chompin' at the bit to get moved in there
A couple of questions....I thought you said above somewhere that there was no rear service door, but I see you have one. The door and the evergreens will make for a great bathroom
My main question though is, why do you have one window at a ******* height? The one I am talking about is the one on the upper corner.
But it's looking great and you look like you have a great neighborhood to live in. I only wish I could have a garage like yours. I'd give the proverbial left 'nad to have the room for a lift.
Looking forward to your progress pics. Make sure you post a lot of 'em. And post up a few of the Bronco. From where we're standing it looks pretty sweet too.
My main question though is, why do you have one window at a ******* height? The one I am talking about is the one on the upper corner.
Kevin,
My bet is that window is at a stairwell landing.
Ed
You had me. I have Wayne Dalton doors on my garage. I believe I bought the doors that are R7. I think the next ones up were rated R9. I figured with the woodburner, I could overcome the difference of the R2.
If you keep the slab warm, "heat in the 'crete" when you open the door to bring something in or take something out, you won't see a drop in temp.
Looking at the interior pics, that is where the stairway is. I would have bet money on the stairway with out looking but I did double check.
A couple of questions....I thought you said above somewhere that there was no rear service door, but I see you have one. The door and the evergreens will make for a great bathroom
My main question though is, why do you have one window at a ******* height? The one I am talking about is the one on the upper corner.
Thanks for the compliments man. I'm loving how this garage is coming together. It's been living in my head for about 4 years now so it's nice to see it materialize!
I was thinking "rear service door" meant a garage type door so you could roll a car in the front and out the back. Yeah clearly I have a regular door there! There's going to be a little deck off the back there to piss off of for sure since I didn't want to take up any space with a toilet. Now I'm second guessing that decision. I guess I'll have to check in with the wife and kids every now and then!
The guys got it right...that window is at the landing for the stairs. I almost nixed it actually but I'm glad I didn't. Maximizing natural light is a good thing I think.
I'll keep posting lots of pics. They got my dormer beam installed today and it turned out awesome. Problem is I get home so late it's always dark this time of year. I'll try to snap some pics on my way out tomorrow.
And I'll post more pics of the bronco too. It's my second one now. My first I had when I was a kid and sold it when I was in college. Worst decision ever! This one is going to be very nice, but I got hosed a bit by the previous owner so now I have to do a lot more to it than I was planning on. Good thing I'll have a place to work on it! Here's a couple pics of it from a few months ago. I'm actually lowering it a bit (never liked it that high) and swapping the 302 with a 351w. Cosmetically it's good, but I want the drivetrain rock solid. It's going to be my near-daily driver and I want to be able to take it on trails up in the mountains around here.
Right before we broke ground on the garage:
Top on for winter and garage under way!:
That's really good to hear. I think I'll be pretty good about not leaving them open for long in the cold of winter or heat of summer. I hadn't thought about how the concrete will help regulate the temps. It's amazing the difference with that foam already. No HVAC or garage doors and it's already made a huge difference to the warmth in there. Especially upstairs. And the dormer is still wide open too!
Beam was installed yesterday. 4x8" rough sawn oak beam. It's going to be sealed with some marine poly prior to mounting an I-beam underneath for the trolley to run on.
I think I'm going to get a trolley like this to carry the hoist.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_18558_18558
Does anybody have any experience with trolleys like this?
I think I'm going to get a trolley like this to carry the hoist.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_18558_18558
Does anybody have any experience with trolleys like this?