Made in England " Record Vise"
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British made = vice
If your vice has a good patch of original paint around 2-3 cm in diameter, any auto body shop will be able to make you matching paint. You may have to call around - not many want to mess with it, and you'd need spray equipment - airbrush - to do a really good job.
I remember the RD's, 350 and 400. Screamin' Mimis!
If your vice has a good patch of original paint around 2-3 cm in diameter, any auto body shop will be able to make you matching paint. You may have to call around - not many want to mess with it, and you'd need spray equipment - airbrush - to do a really good job.
I remember the RD's, 350 and 400. Screamin' Mimis!
woody 73
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See if this helps you out (coming from a color blind man).
http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5932216294.html
http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5932216294.html
Lots and lots of info out there.....Google "Record vise color" and these will come up instantly...along with many others.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80347
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321239
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80347
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321239
Dave455
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You havn't shown the vice in question, and the colour did vary over the years, but if it's the classic dark blue then it was a 'British Standard' colour called 'Roundel Blue'.
Relatively easy to pick up in the U.K. but I use the enamel paint from Paragon Paints, which is easy to apply and seems to be durable!
Don't know if they have a Canadian distributor, but they seem to do colours for all the classic machines, and even stuff like mowers, so they may well do!
Relatively easy to pick up in the U.K. but I use the enamel paint from Paragon Paints, which is easy to apply and seems to be durable!
Don't know if they have a Canadian distributor, but they seem to do colours for all the classic machines, and even stuff like mowers, so they may well do!
Gentlemen:
Thank you all for your fantastic input. I must apologize for not introducing my self in my very fist post on this forum. Thanks to google, by chance I came across this forum and I must say It is a privilege to be here!
So I am Daryl, here in Canada a 2 stroke freak, but not just any 2-strokes. I am obsessed with the Yamaha RD series. I own an RD350B air cooled. My dad had gifted it me and thats how I got to know more about the RD. I've just bought a basked case RD350LC and I am in the process of rebuilding her to her original glory. The person from whom I bought the bike was a retard, reason being, he left this beauty lying in the Sun, Rain & Snow since 1991! What a shame! So basically the weather gods were not kind enough, every ferrous part is eaten......so here I am looking for a complete "Spare parts LC".
Now the story with the vice that I bought recently. I've bought a house and in the process of furnishing the garage, so I shopped around for a metal table, ended up at a local scrap dealer. Bought this metal table along with the vise that he had sitting on it. Did a quick search on "Record" and it seems to be quite a renowned brand! SO I guess I got lucky here. In the days to come, I will require your help/ideas/input in building/setting up my garage. Thank you every one for your time and I do appreciate your valuable feedback and guidance. I am here to learn from the pros!
Kind regards to all,
Daryl
Thank you all for your fantastic input. I must apologize for not introducing my self in my very fist post on this forum. Thanks to google, by chance I came across this forum and I must say It is a privilege to be here!
So I am Daryl, here in Canada a 2 stroke freak, but not just any 2-strokes. I am obsessed with the Yamaha RD series. I own an RD350B air cooled. My dad had gifted it me and thats how I got to know more about the RD. I've just bought a basked case RD350LC and I am in the process of rebuilding her to her original glory. The person from whom I bought the bike was a retard, reason being, he left this beauty lying in the Sun, Rain & Snow since 1991! What a shame! So basically the weather gods were not kind enough, every ferrous part is eaten......so here I am looking for a complete "Spare parts LC".
Now the story with the vice that I bought recently. I've bought a house and in the process of furnishing the garage, so I shopped around for a metal table, ended up at a local scrap dealer. Bought this metal table along with the vise that he had sitting on it. Did a quick search on "Record" and it seems to be quite a renowned brand! SO I guess I got lucky here. In the days to come, I will require your help/ideas/input in building/setting up my garage. Thank you every one for your time and I do appreciate your valuable feedback and guidance. I am here to learn from the pros!
Kind regards to all,
Daryl
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Thanks Bob. Can I not paint it with a hand brush?
Indeed them RD's, they still have a cult following!
Thank you so much Dave for your suggestion. I will look for Roundel Blue.
I will also look for Paragon in Canada and will post pictures soon.
THANK YOU
G-Man!!! I think this is the colour that is closest to the Record vise and you get them in aerosol Can! I am heading to Canadian tire right now. I read your other posts, what an amazing job! I am inspired now!Kind regards,
Daryl
Tremclad Dark Blue is about the closest match.
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.rust-paint---blue-378l.1000406111.html
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80347
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.rust-paint---blue-378l.1000406111.html
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80347
Dear All: This is the paint/shade I will go with.
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.rust-paint---royal-blue-340g-aerosol.1000481676.html
The vice is a bit beat-up and has rust. So here are my questions:
1) After sanding it down by hand (with sand paper) do you need to apply a coat of some type of primer or do I spray it directly from the rattle can after I sand down the rust and remainder old paint?
2) Do you recommend that I open/dismantle the vice and then sand/paint?
Thank you all kindly for your time.
Best regards,
Daryl
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.rust-paint---royal-blue-340g-aerosol.1000481676.html
The vice is a bit beat-up and has rust. So here are my questions:
1) After sanding it down by hand (with sand paper) do you need to apply a coat of some type of primer or do I spray it directly from the rattle can after I sand down the rust and remainder old paint?
2) Do you recommend that I open/dismantle the vice and then sand/paint?
Thank you all kindly for your time.
Best regards,
Daryl
Nothing to offer regarding the Record, I'm sorry to say -
I am sure not the only one looking forward to seeing photos & story of the RD though...
Hi Lil, just read your post.
I also read on the other post the gentleman (TECHIE) used Trimclad Royal blue.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321239
Nothing to offer regarding the Record, I'm sorry to say -
I am sure not the only one looking forward to seeing photos & story of the RD though...
Yep, I will post some pictures of the RD's....
Cope
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Good idea to prime. If possible, disassemble before painting. Don't paint the inner face of the jaws! Look for photos of new or properly restored vises so you'll know what to paint and what to leave natural.
I think you'll find that trying to sand it will be slow and probably not that precise. A fine gauge (.12" wire or so) wire brush on an angle grinder won't hurt the lettering, and will get it very clean. I use a combination of regular wire wheels and cup shaped to get in all the nooks and crannies.
After that a coat of self-etching primer is always a good idea before final paint.
Generally you want to disassemble the vise completely before painting. You don't want to paint the slide so mask it with tape and/or masking paper.
Fretters
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Disassemble, clean, derust/depaint and then finally wipe down with a solvent before painting. Personally, I never use primer. Chips stick out like a sore thumb when there's primer underneath, and most enamels and the like will adhere perfectly well to bare cast.
A chip showing bare metal doesn't stand out? All of the primer I use is either gray or green and they aren't any more noticeable than bare metal.
I've found many paints, even expensive ones, don't always stick well to bare cast, and even if they do, it takes more coats of paint to get it looking good than if I use primer, and primer is a lot cheaper.
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Nice! I'm a big fan of Record and Paramo vises....missed a few in the past, but I'll snag one sooner or later!
Thank you Sir.
I must admit, besides being a 2-stroke twin cylinder junkie I am now hooked on to them vises after reading the various posts here on this forum! I have spent the last couple of days reading a lot on line and it seems like Record, Paramo, Chas Parker, Wilton etc. are top notch renowned brands of yesteryear's and are now a collectors item. Correct me if i am wrong, plz.
I am now actively gonna look for these within my vicinity...
Kind regards,
Daryl
I must admit, besides being a 2-stroke twin cylinder junkie I am now hooked on to them vises after reading the various posts here on this forum! I have spent the last couple of days reading a lot on line and it seems like Record, Paramo, Chas Parker, Wilton etc. are top notch renowned brands of yesteryear's and are now a collectors item. Correct me if i am wrong, plz.
I am now actively gonna look for these within my vicinity...
Kind regards,
Daryl
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bmwrd0
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I have nothing to add to this thread, but the RD in my name is from a '75 RD350 I used to own. Chambers, rearsets, clipons, the works. Great bike.
Yes Sir, good to hear this.
The Yamaha RD350B (1975) is very very close to my heart. A magnificent machine to reckon prior to me born! That was something that my dad passed on to me before he passed away and I treasure that bike more than anything else!
Do you still have the RD?
Kind regards,
Daryl
The Yamaha RD350B (1975) is very very close to my heart. A magnificent machine to reckon prior to me born! That was something that my dad passed on to me before he passed away and I treasure that bike more than anything else!
Do you still have the RD?
Kind regards,
Daryl
Dear all:
This is my very first take on restoring this magnificent "Record No. 5" Made in England vise. I will soon have it painted. In order to have the desired outcome (as close to OEM) I need to dismantle it and this is where I am stuck. Could someone please advise as to which pin do I remove or where do I start? I see that there are just two rivets/pins. One is on the spindle handle that holds the spring in place with a washer and the other is on the base plate. I have attached below pictures. Appreciate your help.
Kind regards,
Daryl
This is my very first take on restoring this magnificent "Record No. 5" Made in England vise. I will soon have it painted. In order to have the desired outcome (as close to OEM) I need to dismantle it and this is where I am stuck. Could someone please advise as to which pin do I remove or where do I start? I see that there are just two rivets/pins. One is on the spindle handle that holds the spring in place with a washer and the other is on the base plate. I have attached below pictures. Appreciate your help.
Kind regards,
Daryl
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Fretters
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Just pull them both out. The one on the screw, compress the spring slightly and it'll be easier to pull. The one retaining the nut, either wiggle it free with pliers else punch it out from underneath. You can't get the slide out whilst the nut is in place.
Thank you Mr. Fretters.
The pin on the spindle handle will be be easy to remove.
The other pin on the base (in the first three & last picture) has been press fitted, so I will have to punch it out with a hammer and bolt etc. However for re-assembly, how does it work? Any special tools required as well as the rivets/pins, do I need to replace them and are the available at any hardware store? Thank you for your time.
The pin on the spindle handle will be be easy to remove.
The other pin on the base (in the first three & last picture) has been press fitted, so I will have to punch it out with a hammer and bolt etc. However for re-assembly, how does it work? Any special tools required as well as the rivets/pins, do I need to replace them and are the available at any hardware store? Thank you for your time.
carcajou
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You may have not realized it but that is how addictions start. If you hang around here much your life will be changed forever. You have been warned!
Fretters
Well-known member
There's nowt special about either pin. Mild steel rod or brass/bronze rod would be fine for replacing the nut retaining pin, (it takes no notable load. It merely stops the nut shifting backwards), if necessary, and either steel rod or a split, (I believe you call them cotter over there), pin for the screw pin.
Strangely enough my folks are getting a bit crabby with me saying that this started out as a hobby but now I am investing more time, energy and money into this!
I miss admit, I am getting addicted to it, leave along the motorcycle forums that I am on! But them vise's and the other engineering stuff over here has begun to fascinate me.....There is a plethora of knowledge and pros out here...
kwoswalt99
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I'm doing fine.