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A couple of years ago, I started to lose interest in loud and fast projects. I stumbled across across a pretty solid little 76 Jeep CJ5. I quickly remembered how much I loved working on and messing with old four wheel drives. I have had all manner of Scouts, full size Jeeps, and XJs, but I had never had a CJ. I instantly fell in love. A couple of years, some paint, some vintage part sourcing, and its pretty well sorted out.

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Fast forward to earlier this year, and I get a call from a good friend of mine an hour or so away. He tells me that he has a buddy who's parents bought a farm, and in the garage/shop was an old Jeep. None of them had any desire to mess with it, would I be interested? From the photos he sent I knew that it was a flatfender civilian Jeep with a homemade top, but that was about it. He did mention that he thought it "had a V8" swapped in. I was immediately hooked. I wasn't able to make our schedules work until a couple of weeks ago. I grabbed my trailer and some cash, and hauled ***.


When I got there, I found a pretty clean little flatfender Jeep. The more we uncovered and dug, the more intrigued I got. I could tell that someone once loved this Jeep very much. It was slathered in 1960s era Jeep modifications. Early Mustang (in amazing shape) bucket seats sat were the originals once rested. An aluminum, home built top was bolted to the tub. Under the dash hun an Chevrolet heater box from what looks like an early-mid 50s pickup. The most interesting parts, however, lived under the hood. Resting where the Go-Devil L134 once was sat a 1958-60 230hp 4 barrel 283. From all exterior glances, it appears completely stock, down to the Carter WCFB carb and rams horn exhaust manifolds. The SBC is bolted to the stock T90 transmission. The swap appears to have been quite well, with only minimal firewall hacking to clear the distributor. From all evidence, this little Jeep has been off the road since the late 80s.

Once we drug it outside, I was even more convinced this thing needed to come home with me. There is rust, but from what I can see it is so minimal that I don't believe I will need to buy any patch panels. At some point, the whole Jeep was fogged in a very thick coat of red oxide primer. In the back was a foot locker full of vintage Jeep parts. Vacuum wiper motors, brake shoes, drive flanges, even the paperwork and receipt from the Cutlass Power Lok hubs that were bought in 1958. I'll take it!

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So there she sits. Some digging through the footlocker I was able to figure out that the Jeep was once owned by Victor Spratt who was a commissioned officer in the USAF. He was from the town we found the Jeep in, but traveled all over the world. Based on his obituary, he spent most of his life at Elmendorf in Alaska. Based on the modifications to this Jeep, I have to make a few assumptions. One, this Jeep spent some time with him there. Two, Spratt owned this Jeep since at least 1960, possibly earlier. Three, he truly loved it and to see it discarded in his estate breaks my heart.

Luckily, "Vic" has found a home that will bring him back to life.
 
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Very cool and I'm excited for updates.

Are you planning on keeping a lot of the modifications and restoring to bring it back to how he had it (aluminum top and all) or you have different plans for it?
 
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Very cool and I'm excited for updates.

Are you planning on keeping a lot of the modifications and restoring to bring it back to how he had it (aluminum top and all) or you have different plans for it?
Somewhere in the middle. I plan to maintain a lot of the modifications he did, with his original intent in mind. I will keep the top, but I doubt it will be on there very often. The 283 will stay and get rebuilt, but will get an SM420 in place of the T90. The Mustang seats will go, in preference for the stock buckets. It will get a winch, preferably a PTO, but a Belleview or Warn 5687 would be fine, too. A set of PowrKing 7.00-15s on stock steel wheels. Disc brakes will eventually find their way on all four corners, simply because I have grown tired of fighting cheap, Chinese drum brake parts.


I want to keep the spirit of the build alive, with some personal touches.
 

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Nice pair of jeeps!
I had a 74' CJ 5 "Renegade" with a 304 V8 just out of high school.
2nd owner (I think) and my first vehicle.
I like your plans for "Vic" 👍
Sure wish I held on to my 67 Bronco (289 with a 3/4 ton "granny" 4 spd and PTO winch.
Then there's the 76, the last of the original Broncos....😩
 

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That is very cool! Kinda looks like it might be related to Mater from Cars :)
Looking forward to the updates for sure.
 

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nice! I drive my 46 almost every day during the spring-fall (pretty heavily modified), and have a 56 (keeping it mostly stock-ish) that I'm working on :D

The SM420 will do nicely with that!
 
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I have a weird fascination with old Auto manuals, magazines, etc. I buy and sell here and there, and just generally enjoy them. I had found these on FB Marketplace back in June, but the seller was super flaky. I wasn't completely sure what she had, and her pictures and description was vague. All I knew was she had some "old Jeep manuals" and I could see Willys-Overland on the cover of one.

I finally got her tracked down today, and picked them up. I now have a complete 1947 Willys Jeep Parts list, with all supplements, and some other random Willys parts catalogs and manuals. Not bad for $40....and having no clue what I was getting.
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Check out the disc brake conversion from Brennan's Garage on FB. Check out his flatty builds too.
 
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His full float kit for the Dana 44 is nice too...

And if you ever find an old Warn/Bellevue winch, he is becoming the go to guy for parts.
I’ve been eyeballing an early Warn 56 series winch that’s missing then motor…
 

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Wow - I had no idea you could fit a small block V8 in an early Jeep. I am suspicious that engine had 230hp, and that would be way overpower for that little Jeep. The original engine had 35-40hp.

I had a 49 CJ3A and I would concur on the disc brakes, the original brakes on those were so bad that 40hp was more than enough. Mine topped out about 50 mph and (55 with a strong tailwind) any more would have been treacherous. They also had the roughest ride of any vehicle I've ever owned.

I think the CJ2A was essentially a military Jeep in civilian paint colors. They did a couple things to the 3a - single piece windshield, and a very large hitch on the back which was meant for farm use.
 

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Guys have been shoehorning v8's in them for years... you know... 'Merca.

Wouldn't be my first choice.. ours was converted years ago. But a 215 Buick/Rover engine would be sweet.

That's why you see so many Willys with various cut outs on the hoods.. it's tough to fit an air cleaner with a V8 in there. Ours is the high hood model so lots more room.

I've even seen one with a straight 8.
 
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Wow - I had no idea you could fit a small block V8 in an early Jeep. I am suspicious that engine had 230hp, and that would be way overpower for that little Jeep. The original engine had 35-40hp.

I had a 49 CJ3A and I would concur on the disc brakes, the original brakes on those were so bad that 40hp was more than enough. Mine topped out about 50 mph and (55 with a strong tailwind) any more would have been treacherous. They also had the roughest ride of any vehicle I've ever owned.

I think the CJ2A was essentially a military Jeep in civilian paint colors. They did a couple things to the 3a - single piece windshield, and a very large hitch on the back which was meant for farm use.

The SBC actually weighs the same or less than the GoDevil L134…which had 60hp. V8s have been swapped into CJs since the day the SBC was born…before even.

Curious as to why you doubt the 230hp rating, it simply is what it is.
 
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They were doing 283's with 4bbl that were in the 220hp range factory, so very possible when new it made 230hp. Now.... who knows. No doubt some ponies have been lost to time.

Unless your building a sand drag or something, anything around 200 is gobs of power that will likely go unutilized. Better than too little!
 

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They were doing 283's with 4bbl that were in the 220hp range factory, so very possible when new it made 230hp. Now.... who knows. No doubt some ponies have been lost to time.

Unless your building a sand drag or something, anything around 200 is gobs of power that will likely go unutilized. Better than too little!

It is the higher torque down low that makes them better for off roading.
A 283 4 barrel with a nice docile cam fits the needs nicely.

Better still a Mitsubishi 4D56-T Diesel and 5 speed / transfer box from an L200 or Pajero
The Mitsubishi swap is almost a bolt-in because they've already done this at the factory in Japan.
 
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Guys have been shoehorning v8's in them for years... you know... 'Merca.

Wouldn't be my first choice.. ours was converted years ago. But a 215 Buick/Rover engine would be sweet.

That's why you see so many Willys with various cut outs on the hoods.. it's tough to fit an air cleaner with a V8 in there. Ours is the high hood model so lots more room.

I've even seen one with a straight 8.
on an old willys that came with the flat head motors, a hole in the hood usually means they swapped the L-head 4cyl for the slightly newer F-head 4cyl motor to get a whopping 70hp instead of like 40 or whatever, haha.
 
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^^ that or a V8.

Kerrynz, If properly geared you don't need a V8... or diesel, although a diesel also overcomes the small gas tank issue.
 
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They were doing 283's with 4bbl that were in the 220hp range factory, so very possible when new it made 230hp. Now.... who knows. No doubt some ponies have been lost to time.

Unless your building a sand drag or something, anything around 200 is gobs of power that will likely go unutilized. Better than too little!

It doesn't make any HP right now... 230hp is simply the HP designator. In 1958-1960, the 283 was available in a 185hp 2bbl, the 230hp 4bbl, and 250 and 290 FI versions. The casting numbers on this 283 indicate it to be a 230hp 4bbl from 1958-1960. I haven't had a chance to check block or head numbers, but there is nothing to indicate the motor isn't what the intake says it is.

You're right, its a waste of power. It will be an even bigger waste when it has a 7:1 SM420 behind it on 29" tires. But...it will look cool, it will sound cool, and it will be what Victor wanted. The plan is to get this 283 going as is, rebuild if necessary. The 283 will get the heads done at some point with hardened seats, a super mild roller cam will find its way in, and the cast intake will be replaced with a low profile aluminum job with the WCFB car replaced with a little 390 or 500 Holley. If that's not feasible, I will likely track down a 225 Buick/Dauntless to put back in it.
 

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^^ that or a V8.

Kerrynz, If properly geared you don't need a V8... or diesel, although a diesel also overcomes the small gas tank issue.
I know this is getting sidetracked from the OP's original intent.
But most of the Bushwackers and Mudders I know prefer the diesel engine for 2 reasons.
1: Gasoline engines [except EFI] would flood the carb on steep gradients
2: Diesel engines can cross rivers etc [as long as you have a watertight snorkel]

Gearing makes a huge difference, I know of some off-roaders that use dual transfer cases [crawl box] with big tyres.
 
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I love that you want to keep the “Spirit” of the original build. That respect to Victor is very heart felt. It is a cool story and a really cool jeep. Do you have a color you want to eventually paint it? I’m not sure what the civilian colors might have been. Keep us updated as you progress!
 
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Best I can tell, it was Pasture Green when new. Paint is so far down the list that I haven’t really even thought about it.
 

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Best I can tell, it was Pasture Green when new. Paint is so far down the list that I haven’t really even thought about it.

Keep the paint as is and get something cool painted on the fender. If you have Instagram check out "painted.by.jaush" and "everythingisbrokeninc" for some good Willy's action.
 

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That’s a beauty; you’ll have a ton of fun continuing its evolution. Agree with parts-quality concerns; near universal complaint for so many of us.

My ‘57 truck came to me with 11” later CJ brakes on all four corners; they kinda get the job done but the single circuit configuration isn’t super confidence inspiring.

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I know this is getting sidetracked from the OP's original intent.
But most of the Bushwackers and Mudders I know prefer the diesel engine for 2 reasons.
1: Gasoline engines [except EFI] would flood the carb on steep gradients
2: Diesel engines can cross rivers etc [as long as you have a watertight snorkel]

Gearing makes a huge difference, I know of some off-roaders that use dual transfer cases [crawl box] with big tyres.
and also, diesels get alot better MPG. the 2.2L turbo diesel I put in my 46 will get an honest 30MPG. that's pretty damn good for any jeep.
 
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I have something less than no desire to swap a diesel plant in, and only moderately more likely to swap a modern gas engine.

I like old cars, Jeeps in particular, because I like old stuff. I like the history of the 283 that has been in that Jeep for at least 50 years, most likely more. If that motor is bad, something period correct like a 225 Dauntless is the perfect candidate. I dig the bias ply tires, and I would keep the drum brakes if I was confident I could find decent parts. I like the idea of a lower first gear and an overdrive, but an SM420 and a Saturn or Warn OD is a damn sight more appealing than a T5. I could buy a new Badlands or Warn winch and have it on my doorstep tomorrow, but instead I will source a Koenig or Ramsey PTO, or a Belleview/Warn because that's what belongs on there.

I don't have an issue with anyone doing anything they want to their own ride, and I get the attraction of a restomod with a modern drivetrain....it just doesn't blow my skirt up.
 

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I have something less than no desire to swap a diesel plant in, and only moderately more likely to swap a modern gas engine.

I like old cars, Jeeps in particular, because I like old stuff. I like the history of the 283 that has been in that Jeep for at least 50 years, most likely more. If that motor is bad, something period correct like a 225 Dauntless is the perfect candidate. I dig the bias ply tires, and I would keep the drum brakes if I was confident I could find decent parts. I like the idea of a lower first gear and an overdrive, but an SM420 and a Saturn or Warn OD is a damn sight more appealing than a T5. I could buy a new Badlands or Warn winch and have it on my doorstep tomorrow, but instead I will source a Koenig or Ramsey PTO, or a Belleview/Warn because that's what belongs on there.

I don't have an issue with anyone doing anything they want to their own ride, and I get the attraction of a restomod with a modern drivetrain....it just doesn't blow my skirt up.

I wasn't suggesting swapping a diesel , but merely commenting on why they do it for off-roading and why the torque of the 283 is used.

If the motor is bad, the best bet is an unloved 305 Chevy [purely for the 3.48" stroke]
The thing with street engines and also off-roading engines is you need the power down low.

If the 283 engine [short block] is in good condition and you want to get more adventurous , consider a set of baby cylinder heads off a 265 AND the matching intake . [do a competition 3 angle valve job to the stock valves]
These heads / intake have tiny ports and get high velocity. and are really responsive down low [but the engine will fall over at about 5000 rpm]

I did this to my stocker 1957 Chevy 283 [265 heads and intake swap] because it had a non syncro 3 on the tree , so I needed a vehicle more user friendly in traffic with basically 2 useable gears.
I also decked the block [not needed] and got 10.1:1 compression [cc'd] Then I added a 205° @050 duration x 0.428" lift cam and drop in Z28 springs.
The end result was an engine that pulled off idle with diesel like manners .Even at 30mph around town in top gear [@ 1400 rpm] it was very driveable]

Sometimes "less is more" you can do a few tweaks to modernize it [without doing the "dismantle of death"] A good tune up and a clean'n'paint goes a long way
 
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I have something less than no desire to swap a diesel plant in, and only moderately more likely to swap a modern gas engine.

I like old cars, Jeeps in particular, because I like old stuff. I like the history of the 283 that has been in that Jeep for at least 50 years, most likely more. If that motor is bad, something period correct like a 225 Dauntless is the perfect candidate. I dig the bias ply tires, and I would keep the drum brakes if I was confident I could find decent parts. I like the idea of a lower first gear and an overdrive, but an SM420 and a Saturn or Warn OD is a damn sight more appealing than a T5. I could buy a new Badlands or Warn winch and have it on my doorstep tomorrow, but instead I will source a Koenig or Ramsey PTO, or a Belleview/Warn because that's what belongs on there.

I don't have an issue with anyone doing anything they want to their own ride, and I get the attraction of a restomod with a modern drivetrain....it just doesn't blow my skirt up.
I love the story and spirit of the build!

If Vic was alive, I bet he'd be chanting "LS Swap" in your ear. Just sayin :)
 
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I have something less than no desire to swap a diesel plant in, and only moderately more likely to swap a modern gas engine.

I like old cars, Jeeps in particular, because I like old stuff. I like the history of the 283 that has been in that Jeep for at least 50 years, most likely more. If that motor is bad, something period correct like a 225 Dauntless is the perfect candidate. I dig the bias ply tires, and I would keep the drum brakes if I was confident I could find decent parts. I like the idea of a lower first gear and an overdrive, but an SM420 and a Saturn or Warn OD is a damn sight more appealing than a T5. I could buy a new Badlands or Warn winch and have it on my doorstep tomorrow, but instead I will source a Koenig or Ramsey PTO, or a Belleview/Warn because that's what belongs on there.

I don't have an issue with anyone doing anything they want to their own ride, and I get the attraction of a restomod with a modern drivetrain....it just doesn't blow my skirt up.
I appreciate this line of thinking. I don’t always practice it though. I like things old and beautiful (motorcycles, cars, trucks, airplanes), style is both form and function. There are limitations to older vehicles that most don’t want to deal with. As long as safety isn’t bypassed, keep it old school.
 
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Haven’t had a chance to touch the Willys yet. I’ve tried to focus on the CJ5 to get some stuff knocked out before it takes back burner. It’s a solid driver, but needs a few things.

The last few days it’s been a bit cooler, and with the long weekend I decided to tackle some stuff. I have had a full set of Autometer gauges to replaced the judge lodge of cheap **** that I had in the dash before. I love quality gauges, but damn they aren’t cheap. I still need to address the Speedo, but that’s a job for another day. 44A0C7DA-7A30-4625-B68A-B63E88C11F4F.jpeg

Of course, while I had the dash out, I might as well change the leaking heater core. I had to drain the coolant to swap the mechanical temp gauge anyway, so it just made sense.

Since I’m doing that, I might as well change the thermostat and radiator hoses. Hell, once the lower radiator hose is off, the steering box sure is easy to get to…and I happen to have a new one sitting on the shelf, along with a brand new steering shaft that I was planning on getting one of these days. Well, I guess today is one of them, so…

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Get everything buttoned up, and fill it with coolant. Fire it up and all is well…wait a minute…what’s that dripping? A little inspection and I see the thermostat housing has a bit of a leak. No big deal, probably missed a spot with sealant or forgot to tighten it…nope…

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I don’t know if I did it, or if there was an existing crack. I’ll bank on it being my fault. Luckily I have to run to Oklahoma City tomorrow for a dinner, and there happens to be one in stock in an Autozone on the way.


Just another day in Jeep tinkering.
 
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