Between 705 & 1200 SQ/FT Miller Time Garage

[GreenIron]

Miller Time Garage is a 20'X36' metal building.

Our backyard isn't all that big, so I only have so much room to work with. The outer walls and roof of the garage was erected earlier this year and I've been working on the interior since then. The first order of business was to build a mezzanine (Loft?) at the rear of the building, to allow for storage of usable items. Storing household materials, hardware and miscellaneous items up on the mezzanine will free up workable area on the main floor.

I'm a retired mechanic with 47 years of experienced in Lawn & Garden, Agricultural, Heavy Construction Equipment (earth moving) and Rough Terran Cranes. Since retiring ~5 years ago, I sometimes take on small jobs for family, friends and neighbors, to pass my time. Most of the small jobs are gas powered lawn care products (line trimmers, chain saws, leaf blowers and such). I have taken on large jobs from cars to 1-Ton trucks, to single axle dump trucks, but would rather not, as it takes up too much time and space. At my last place, which had a couple acres with shop and a barn, I've spent time restoring Garden Tractor and Ag Tractors; and would like to continue doing more of the same here in the new garage.

My wife will be retiring at the end of this year, and she'd like to get into small item woodworking. She's never had a "Hobby" and would like me to teach her the ropes. I'm no woodworking pro, being mostly self-taught by Trial and Error.

I'll post a few pics of the garage and also some of the jobs when I get a chance.

 

[GreenIron]

The pic below is of the mezzanine I built over the summer months. It measures 12' deep X 20' wide.
This area gives me an additional 240sf of floor space. Being the main floor of the garage is 720sf, this gives me a total of 960sf of floor space. The OSB walls are insulated on the back side using double bubble sheets. It's 96% reflexive and 4% emissive.
We basically have little to no winter weather down here, but the summers can be brutal. A copula will be necessary to vent out the summer heat. I hope to build and install a copula before next summer comes around.




Pictured below is the front wall of the mezzanine. I used re-purposed Tin for a Rustic look and also because it was FREE.
The large opening(approx 8'x8') in the center is for accessing large items. A small Jib Crane will be built and utilized for lifting and lowering items.
The smaller opening to the right is for the stairway access.


The 14' inner walls are also being covered with re-purposed Tin.
Double-Bubble insulation is installed behind the Tin.

 

[j p smith]

Awesome use of the "free" Tin

 

[GreenIron]

The Tin on the front wall of the mezzanine is some that I picked up about 5 - 6 years ago from my BIL's friend. They were 8' in length and had to be cut to size. The 8' Tin was removed from very old, dilapidated barns and have heavy rusted areas.

The Tin I'm installing on the inner garage walls are 16' and have to be shortened to 14'.
These were removed from my sister and BIL's house. The house they live in was built back in the '30s or '40s. It still looks like new on the underside(attic side). Other than a few spots with light rust, their roof was still good, with no leaks. They had to replace it prior to changing Homeowners Insurance Carrier.
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No work on the garage for the next few day, as I'm going to a friend's fishing camp for the weekend.

 

[rlwhitetr3b]

When I read your title, I thought maybe you did not have electricity in it. I like where you going and will be following.

 

[HeadsUp]

Quick story... For years my kids believed me when I told them "Wow no electricity in those houses, no outlet"

Really like re-using the tin.

 

[jbrentd]

I like the look of that re-used tin siding...and you can't beat the price. Are you going to put your tool stoarge/workspaces under the mezzanine?

 

[Homebody]

Awesome - and a great name!! Following.

 

[ZRX61]

How did you the cut the tin?

 

[Klammer]

Looks nice! I used some re-purposed tin for the ceiling in my shop and love the look.

I just put a metal cutting blade on my circular saw and cut it with that. I think I used a 4" grinder to get the smaller cuts around the garage rail hangers.

 

[GreenIron]

How did you the cut the tin?

Depending on what I'm doing. Nibbler, electric sheers and Tin snips.

I like the look of that re-used tin siding...and you can't beat the price. Are you going to put your tool storage/workspaces under the mezzanine?

Excuse my drawing.
Below the mezzanine will be storage for wood-working tools.
The mezzanine measures 12'x20'. The leading edge of the metal support frame for it is 10' from the rear wall. The mezzanine floor extends 2' beyond that.
The work bench top (2'x10') will be located under the overhang. Because I'll sit at the work bench on a stool, the top will be positioned 42" from the shop floor.

The light gray in the image below is existing concrete. The dark gray is where I'll pour additional concrete.

Looks nice! I used some re-purposed tin for the ceiling in my shop and love the look.

I just put a metal cutting blade on my circular saw and cut it with that. I think I used a 4" grinder to get the smaller cuts around the garage rail hangers.

At our last place, we built a 14'x36' kitchen behind the garage. We installed re-purposed Tin on the ceiling also.

 

[GreenIron]

Yesterday, I fabricated brackets to mount the stairway to the mezzanine. I then set the stairway in place.


Today, I caulked, sanded and primed it.


Tomorrow, I'll paint it, then begin fabricating the handrails.

 

[xtremek]

I'm also using reclaimed tin in my shop, but only on the ceiling. Are you concerned about the noise reflection from the tin? That's why I'm only doing the ceiling. What's the deal on the thing at the bottom of the stairs?

 

[GreenIron]

I'm also using reclaimed tin in my shop, but only on the ceiling. Are you concerned about the noise reflection from the tin?

Not concerned. Double-Bubble insulation is installed directly behind the Tin, which should deaden much of the sound. Of course, the walls won't be 100% Tin. It will be broken up using re-purposed fence boards as well, which will also help in noise reflection.

What's the deal on the thing at the bottom of the stairs?

That is the bottom step itself. I'll be pressure washing the floor at least twice per year and don't want any wood contacting a wet floor.
I built the bottom step using three sections of 2"x4" Perlin (C-channel) material, welded together.

 

[Metallitubby]

It already looks really cool. Nice work!

 

[GreenIron]

It already looks really cool. Nice work!

Thanks.
I applied the first coat of paint to the stairway this morning.


I picked up some non-slip tape and two sections of 2" pipe that I had in storage down the road. I'll use them to build the handrails. I'll be working on that this afternoon or Friday.

 

[Metallitubby]

Like almost everyone else has commented; The corrugated roofing that's been weathered really sets off the space. I've been searching local junk places high and low to find things similar. You've definitely inspired me!

 

[GreenIron]

Like almost everyone else has commented; The corrugated roofing that's been weathered really sets off the space. I've been searching local junk places high and low to find things similar. You've definitely inspired me!

As stated earlier, this Tin is from my sister & BIL's house. I've seen lot of use Tin advertised on FB Marketplace and Craigslist. Maybe you could check those out.

 

[Metallitubby]

I've seen lot of use Tin advertised on FB Marketplace and Craigslist. Maybe you could check those out.

I'd rather buy new and chemically age them then deal with some people on either of those sites.

 

[GreenIron]

I'd rather buy new and chemically age them then deal with some people on either of those sites.

I hear ya.

 

[xtremek]

With the close-up and painted shot, I get it now. It does look cool.

 

[GreenIron]

I didn't get a chance to build the handrail, as friends drove up for an afternoon visit. By the time they left, I only had time to collect a few pieces of split logs and build a fire in the backyard firepit. Once it was going well, I sat next to the fire and enjoyed a few cold ones after night-fall.

Work will most likely resume on Friday.

 

[GreenIron]

Adding a pic of the where the front man-door is located, nearest the house.



The pic below is where the shop is, in relationship to the house. There is 8' 2" between the two.
A concrete slab will be poured between the house and the shop. The wood fence is there to hide the garbage can.


EDIT:
I installed a Dusk-to-Dawn light on the south side a couple weeks ago.

 

[DJL1967]

Looking great so far! I did my garage ceiling in galvanized sheets from a 120 year old barn roof. Looks exactly like the stuff you are using. I get a lot of compliments when people see it.
I will be following along.

 

[jbrentd]

That space between the house and garage is nice, especially since you have some concealment with the fence. I'm curious to see the outside with the barn doors.

 

[xtremek]

I got my tin off of a shed that was falling down. Ended up selling the really rusty stuff. My old eyes need a decent amount of light. Got about 1/8th of the ceiling done.

 

[GreenIron]

That space between the house and garage is nice, especially since you have some concealment with the fence. I'm curious to see the outside with the barn doors.

I'm planning to build and install the barn door within the next couple weeks.
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I borrowed 2-bucks of scaffolding from a friend. They're old and don't look pretty, but they'll work for my needs.
This will allow me to reach the ceiling of the garage(shop) to run the electrical conduit, to supply power to the lighting.


Below is how I supply power to the LED strip lighting in the mezzanine. The outlets for the lights are controlled by a switch near the front man-door.


Plans are to hopefully run more conduit after lunch today.

 

[GreenIron]

In between a few honey-do's, I managed to run a few feet of conduit and install a receptacle box for the overhead lights.
I chilled with a few beers to plan what I'll do tomorrow.

 

[xtremek]

I take it the white stuff is insulation board. How thick is it? Did you insulation the walls? Are you worried about the heat of the summer?

 

[GreenIron]

I take it the white stuff is insulation board.

The white stuff is Double-Bubble insulation.
It's what's used in 90% of all Pole Barns and Meatal Building down here.

How thick is it? Did you insulation the walls? Are you worried about the heat of the summer?

5/16"

Are you worried about the heat of the summer?

No sir.

 

[nadogail]

I have been able to get many things by just saying Please, and most Importantly saying Thank You.

 

[xtremek]

Thanks for the info Lucas. Interesting the differences things vary by regions.

 

[GreenIron]

Last week, I received a Rewards Card for my annual purchases, from a local hardware store I deal with. I figured I'd use it for garage related items.


This morning, I made a list of electrical items I needed and drove there this morning to redeem it. I bought 12ga wire, switch boxes, junction boxes, GFCI receptacles and exterior in-use covers. While I was there, I bought a case of HVAC filters for the house. It ran over the Rewards amount, so out of pocket was only ~$28.

I'll be running more conduit and installing electrical boxes in the garage this afternoon.

 

[GreenIron]

I didn't do much in the garage yesterday.
I had to wait for wifey to log-off her remote work at 5PM, to have her help with pulling six 12ga wires through a 16' length of 1/2" conduit.
Once that was done, it was a couple hours after Beer:30, so I stopped for the day.

 

[theoldwizard1]

One thing that bothers me about mezzanine construction is most the main beam is sized and supported. Can't tell from the pictures, but that 20' beam that spans the width looks pretty small ! How is it attached to the outer walls/posts and is there a center support ? I'm guessing that the joists run from that beam to the back wall. What size are the joist, how closely are they spaced and how are they connected to the back wall.

It is one thing to build a mezzanine for light storage and another thing to build one for heavy storage or to support people occupying that space.

 

[GreenIron]

The 4"x4"x20' square tubing (beam) is screwed and welded to the building frame. It's supported by a 4"x4" x92" vertical post in the center. The joist is 2"x8"x12' and span 10' from rear wall and extends 2' past the 4"x4"x20' square tubing (beam); and the joist are attached to the square tubing using HD "L" brackets, metal screws at the beam and decking screws at the joist. The rear of the joist is supported by a 2"x 4"x 20' channel welded to the building framework with four 2"x4"x 92" vertical channels evenly spaced, also screwed and welded to the build framework.

 

[GreenIron]

I finally got a chance today to begin building a frame for one of the sliding barn doors.
This will be for the door on the south side. It's 10' tall and 8' wide. It's a single door but will look like a double door from the exterior.

I utilized the Kreg pocket hole jig.


All attaching points are glued and screwed.



I'm waiting on these long hex-head screws to arrive this week. They'll be installed at the four corners for additional support.





Once the sheathing is installed on the door frame, I'll begin opening the wall to accept the door.


From the exterior, the door should mimic the rough draft below.

 

[GreenIron]

Today, I finished the sliding barn door (south side of shop).

I went with the Board-&-Batten look. It's primed and ready for the first coat of gray tomorrow.



I'll order glass for the two openings.
Waiting on the tracks and rollers.

 

[xtremek]

They look good so far. Are they going to be all gray, or trimmed in another color?

 

[GreenIron]

They look good so far. Are they going to be all gray, or trimmed in another color?

All gray, but not certain of the window trim. I'll see what it looks like after it's installed.
Before painting, I need the cut a shallow grove down the length of the center vertical board. That way, it'll mimic two separate doors. Black recessed door pulls will also be added after painting.

I ordered the door-hanging hardware yesterday (rollers, stops, tracks and supports).