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Melias24

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Hey everyone, just wondering if anyone has the mid-torque Milwaukee half inch impact? Do you find it has enough power? I currently use a Milwaukee impact driver with socket adapters on it, and it just doesn't have enough power.

I fear that the big Milwaukee half inch will have too much power for what I'm after. I do have shop air at my disposal so i can use my half inch air impact if i really do need it, but i hope the mid torque Milwaukee will have enough power.

My question is, do people find that the mid-torque impact has enough power?

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~Elias
 
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I haven't used my High-Torque since I got the Mid-Torque.

I work on pick up trucks and trailers. Probably break out the high-torque for red loc-tite trailer hitch balls and that's about it.

Most people/trades do not need the awesome power of the high torque. It's a beast for sure. But the mid-torque is quite beastly as well.

Look at the Milwaukee Addiction Thread on here. Start reading...

(I think it is fair to say, that if you (anybody, not you in particular) need the high-torque, you would know it from your line of work)
 
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I have mine and like it a lot, a good tool and powerful, best pared with a 5ah battery imo.

I use my 1/2" compact 90% of the time however, a great compact impact that's nice and balanced on 2ah batteries and powerful enough to do most jobs (About 300nm max) if that cant handle it i go for the mid torque. I also have a dewalt high torque that i haven't used since starting back after the new year due to having the mid-torque Milwaukee.

I also have the impact driver, its excellent for dealing with smaller fasteners like the torx head screws for the undercover, headlight modules, interior fixings etc.. I use mine with long 1/4" screw bits pretty much every day, again i like it with 2ah batteries to keep it light.
 

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I've heard that those Milwaukee Impacts are some bad, bolt twisting mama-jamas. Rumor has it a guy was using a Milwaukee to drive a lag bolt into a rafter in his attic and it flipped the roof over.
 
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I have both, I used my high torque every single day working on heavy equipment, now a days not so much. I still use it, but maybe only every other week or so. I think they both have their place but the mid torque will cover 95% off your needs
 

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I have both and haven't use the high torque model since getting the mid torque version. The mid torque's size is just so much easier to manuver than the larger impact. It has plenty of power for my needs. :beer:
 

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Since getting my 1/2” mid torque I’m going to sell my 1/2” high torque and replace it with a 3/4” high torque because I only use it on really big fasteners that I have in 3/4” drive sockets.
 

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I'm disappointed to say that the very first test of the mid torque I performed (removing brake caliper bolts from an F250) the mid torque failed to perform. In all fairness it did take a breaker bar to loosen them.
 

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I have the high-torque only. For the minimal difference in price, if you're taking a nut off, I can't see using the mid-torque instead of the high-torque. If you're trying to torque a nut down to spec then you should be using a torque wrench anyway, in which case mid-torque vs high-torque doesn't matter.
 

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I'm disappointed to say that the very first test of the mid torque I performed (removing brake caliper bolts from an F250) the mid torque failed to perform. In all fairness it did take a breaker bar to loosen them.

Looking online the torque spec for those bolts is only 225Nm, very surprising it didn't break them loose, i break caliper bolts tightened to 200nm with my compact all the time and it doesn't even seem to struggle.

I might have the wrong torque spec however.
 

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I had similar issues witht he mid torque breaking things loose. But in all fairness they were rusted hub bolts on a 2000 dodge dakota that it took the big boy Milwaukee to take off. Everything else Ive had no issue with the mid torque.

The compactness is what sells the mid torque for certain jobs. Trying to balance all 5lbs or whatever the high torque is can be tiring. Ive also found several spots where I cant fit it.
 

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You can tell who in here has very little experience with impacts and who actually uses them regularly.

The mid torque and high torque are two different tools with two different uses. As mentioned above, the mid torque will handle the majority of the work you need an impact for. The high torque will be used as a problem solver for the extra tight bolts. One impact does not replace the other... no matter how much you want it to. The mid torque is lighter and smaller (getting into tighter spots). The high torque has more power.
 

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Couldn’t agree more.

I love my mid torque with a compact 2.0 battery but my high torque with a 4.0 or 5.0
 

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Yeah, I should mention, even though the mid torque covers the majority of the work, I wouldn't trade my high torque for the world. That other 5% can be a real ***** without it.
 

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The mid torque is not as powerful as you think should be. I use the compact and high torque 1/2 more often. I have the Fuel impacts from 3/8 to 3/4 and each has their purpose.
 

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I have both high-torque models, and got the mid-torque a few months ago. I try and grab it whenever I can versus using the high-torque as the mid-torque is much lighter and easy to get places.

That said, the high torque blows it out of the water. So it really depends on what you plan on using it for. I'm definitely not disappointed in the purchase.
 

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Can't say I have to need it yet, though I have found plenty of instances the High Torque would not fit.

What I want to know if compared to the 1/2" compact is it just mildly more impressive?

My 2655B has always done most what I ask of it, but f course I also know its limits
 

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Can't say I have to need it yet, though I have found plenty of instances the High Torque would not fit.

What I want to know if compared to the 1/2" compact is it just mildly more impressive?

My 2655B has always done most what I ask of it, but f course I also know its limits
On paper it's about 3 times stronger. I think the compact puts out either 210 or 220ft/lb vs 600ft/lb On the mid torque. Those are breakaway numbers
 

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I have the high-torque only. For the minimal difference in price, if you're taking a nut off, I can't see using the mid-torque instead of the high-torque. If you're trying to torque a nut down to spec then you should be using a torque wrench anyway, in which case mid-torque vs high-torque doesn't matter.

It's hard to take the nut off if the high torque is too big to fit where you need it. The mid torque is also lighter which makes it easier to use all day. Most of us had the high torque before the mid torque was released. Now if I were giving advice I would suggest buying the mid torque first and the high torque only if you find situations where you need it.
 
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You can tell who in here has very little experience with impacts and who actually uses them regularly.
I think one of the mistakes people make here is assuming everybody here is in the same line of work or even if they are, that their experiences should be similar.

Big difference between an auto mechanic vs a field service tech vs a rancher vs. etc.

Even if you have 2 auto mechanics talking, lots of differences between a Honda tech in Kali vs a Chevy tech in the rust belt
 

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The High torque and Mid torque models are 2 different animals so neither one replaces the other. If you are a pro doing this daily (or an amature with enough $), you want both because there are going to be times where the Mid torque model doesn't have enough balls to get the job done and times when the High torque is just too big and heavy.

If you can only have one then your decision comes down to what are you buying an impact wrench for?

If your primary goal is to break free those nuts and bolts that would be almost impossible to remove any other way, the decision is easy, get the big one.

If on the other hand, you want an impact to use daily to help speed things up and make things easier (compared to a manual ratchet) and run into really tight bolts occasionally...the middy is your best all arond/all day tool. Just know that there will be times that it won't be enough.
 

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I think one of the mistakes people make here is assuming everybody here is in the same line of work or even if they are, that their experiences should be similar.

Big difference between an auto mechanic vs a field service tech vs a rancher vs. etc.

Even if you have 2 auto mechanics talking, lots of differences between a Honda tech in Kali vs a Chevy tech in the rust belt

This^^^

Is why any "what's the best?" thread gets so many different responses
 
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The High torque and Mid torque models are 2 different animals so neither one replaces the other. If you are a pro doing this daily (or an amature with enough $), you want both because there are going to be times where the Mid torque model doesn't have enough balls to get the job done and times when the High torque is just too big and heavy.

If you can only have one then your decision comes down to what are you buying an impact wrench for?

If your primary goal is to break free those nuts and bolts that would be almost impossible to remove any other way, the decision is easy, get the big one.

If on the other hand, you want an impact to use daily to help speed things up and make things easier (compared to a manual ratchet) and run into really tight bolts occasionally...the middy is your best all arond/all day tool. Just know that there will be times that it won't be enough.

Yeah, i do have an air impact but the airline really bugs me, especially after using my impact driver with a socket adapter in it. The impact driver is awesome but does not have enough power.

I'm a light vehicle mechanic, so something that can handle wheel nuts on bigger vehicles (small trucks, landcruiser etc) would be great, which it sounds like the mid torque can do.

But yes i do agree one won't replace the other!
 
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I haven't used my High-Torque since I got the Mid-Torque.

I work on pick up trucks and trailers. Probably break out the high-torque for red loc-tite trailer hitch balls and that's about it.

Most people/trades do not need the awesome power of the high torque. It's a beast for sure. But the mid-torque is quite beastly as well.

Look at the Milwaukee Addiction Thread on here. Start reading...

(I think it is fair to say, that if you (anybody, not you in particular) need the high-torque, you would know it from your line of work)

Cheers for that. I'm a light vehicle apprentice mecahnic, so nothing too big. The occasional truck here an tehre, but we don't see F-series or Dodge rams too often here down under, so mainly smaller utes (pick-ups) and landcruisers etc.

The mid torque is a HUGE step up in power compared to the impact driver.. just look at the torque ratings.

Yeah for sure! On paper it looks like a huge step up.

I have mine and like it a lot, a good tool and powerful, best pared with a 5ah battery imo.

I use my 1/2" compact 90% of the time however, a great compact impact that's nice and balanced on 2ah batteries and powerful enough to do most jobs (About 300nm max) if that cant handle it i go for the mid torque. I also have a dewalt high torque that i haven't used since starting back after the new year due to having the mid-torque Milwaukee.

I also have the impact driver, its excellent for dealing with smaller fasteners like the torx head screws for the undercover, headlight modules, interior fixings etc.. I use mine with long 1/4" screw bits pretty much every day, again i like it with 2ah batteries to keep it light.

Yeah 2ah batteries are awesome !

I have both, I used my high torque every single day working on heavy equipment, now a days not so much. I still use it, but maybe only every other week or so. I think they both have their place but the mid torque will cover 95% off your needs

Yeah, i don't do heavey equipment, mainly light vehicles, thats why i think it might be the better option

I have the high-torque only. For the minimal difference in price, if you're taking a nut off, I can't see using the mid-torque instead of the high-torque. If you're trying to torque a nut down to spec then you should be using a torque wrench anyway, in which case mid-torque vs high-torque doesn't matter.

Yeah, i always use a torque wrench in the approriate situation.

I had similar issues witht he mid torque breaking things loose. But in all fairness they were rusted hub bolts on a 2000 dodge dakota that it took the big boy Milwaukee to take off. Everything else Ive had no issue with the mid torque.

The compactness is what sells the mid torque for certain jobs. Trying to balance all 5lbs or whatever the high torque is can be tiring. Ive also found several spots where I cant fit it.

Yes compacteness helps too, i'll be dropping the air impact if the mid-torque can handle most jobs.

You can tell who in here has very little experience with impacts and who actually uses them regularly.

The mid torque and high torque are two different tools with two different uses. As mentioned above, the mid torque will handle the majority of the work you need an impact for. The high torque will be used as a problem solver for the extra tight bolts. One impact does not replace the other... no matter how much you want it to. The mid torque is lighter and smaller (getting into tighter spots). The high torque has more power.

Couldn’t agree more.

I love my mid torque with a compact 2.0 battery but my high torque with a 4.0 or 5.0

Yes, i only have 2.0ah batteries at the moment. Hoping to buy a 5.0ah soon.


The mid torque is not as powerful as you think should be. I use the compact and high torque 1/2 more often. I have the Fuel impacts from 3/8 to 3/4 and each has their purpose.

Yeah i will expaned eventually, but just to start me off i hope this does a good enough job.

I have both high-torque models, and got the mid-torque a few months ago. I try and grab it whenever I can versus using the high-torque as the mid-torque is much lighter and easy to get places.

That said, the high torque blows it out of the water. So it really depends on what you plan on using it for. I'm definitely not disappointed in the purchase.

Light vehicle work mainley. Landcruiers, Patrols etc are the heaviest vehicles i usually work on.
 

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I am a DIYer youtube mechanic and just got the mid-torque. I really like it. Good for doing wheels and a lot of items that require 1/2" drive socket.

My approach is I will use my 3/8 Fuel M12 for light to even moderate stuff. It fits into small spots and has a decent level of power. I use my m18 mid torque for anything larger that it will spin. If something is really stubborn, I turn on the air and take my 1/2 nitrocat impact. If it's beyond that, it's heavy breaker bar time.

I will say this about the mid torque. Just rotated the tires on my jeep. It was nice not having to drag an airline. It was quick easy and the mid torque had plenty of power.

Will admit...I miss the air impact sound.
 

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My question is why have two 1/2" impacts of different power rating instead of just a high power 3/8" and big 1/2". This combo covers all my needs.
 

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Milwaukee 'mid-torque' 1/2" gun?

bobcatdan; said:
My question is why have two 1/2" impacts of different power rating instead of just a high power 3/8" and big 1/2". This combo covers all my needs.



Most of us started out with those two items as well but what ends up happening is that you find yourself using the big 1/2” impact gun quite often because the other one isn’t powerful enough and after a while that big 1/2” impact becomes very heavy when you only needed something slightly more powerful than the smaller 3/8” impact.
 

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Working on farm, construction and industrial equipment, I find my 3/8" handles 1/2" or m12 size bolts just fine. From there my 1/2" is mainly for larger bolts. Simple don't see a reason for a 3rd gun.
 

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I think the Mid-torque is a perfect middle ground between compact and the high-torque. I've used mine a lot and haven't ran into anything it couldn't do, including work I did as an RV mechanic. Plenty of power and 3 settings if you need to dial it down a big.

The only time I think one would need the high-torque model is working on buses, dump trucks, and big diesel equipment, I don't think the Mid-torque would cut it there. But for any typical automotive work up to trailers and 1 ton pickups, the mid torque is plenty.
 

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I have the brushless 20v Mac that dewalt doesn't offer a comparable version of. Not much in the 3/8" drive range it can't take off. Nice and compact.

I certainly wish Milwaukee would come out with a 3/8 impact with ~300 ft/lbs... Maybe someday :sad:
 

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Couldn’t agree more.

I love my mid torque with a compact 2.0 battery but my high torque with a 4.0 or 5.0

OK newbie on Milwaukee, I have bought a 2704 M18 Fuel Hammer Drill and a 2656 M18 Brushless. I am looking to add a impact wrench. My head is spinning on this thread with High torque vs Mid torque, Compact vs non compact, heavier vs lighter, M18 vs M12 and fuel vs non fuel, 3/8 vs 1/2. I am a weekend warrior who will be changing tires, doing brake jobs, shocks and occasional light engine work. I believe this aligns with a mid torque wrench. Since I have two M18 batteries, I would like to stay with that. Also like brushless. Could someone give me a model number etc. that corresponds with this?
 

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OK newbie on Milwaukee, I have bought a 2704 M18 Fuel Hammer Drill and a 2656 M18 Brushless. I am looking to add a impact wrench. My head is spinning on this thread with High torque vs Mid torque, Compact vs non compact, heavier vs lighter, M18 vs M12 and fuel vs non fuel, 3/8 vs 1/2. I am a weekend warrior who will be changing tires, doing brake jobs, shocks and occasional light engine work. I believe this aligns with a mid torque wrench. Since I have two M18 batteries, I would like to stay with that. Also like brushless. Could someone give me a model number etc. that corresponds with this?

Model # 2861-20

It will work perfect for what you have listed except perhaps the bolded above.

It may work for some engine stuff, but not all.
 

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That along with a 2754-20 for the smaller stuff.

Both with compact 2.0 batteries and protective boots.

What about friction ring or pin detent has some listings say? I have 1.5 amp M18 not good for this wrench?
 
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Is there enough power from the mid torque to take off axle nuts on a fullsize Chevy truck (I'm not sure of the torque spec)? I have some bearing hubs to change. That would probably the heaviest use I would need it for aside from lugnuts. I just don't want to be disappointed in its power. I currently have a 2nd gen craftsman 19.2 1/2" impact that is rated at 300 ft lbs. It works ok but some lugnuts take a few seconds to break free. I just wanted something more powerful that wasn't a huge jump in size.
 
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