new extreme tool box

[MCM1]

Ah yes the first post guy.

Need some imput from tool box owners. looking at an extreme ex5621 or a
tv5621 not sure I like the lid opening on the extreme with the front not opened
like the tool vault.
should this influence my purchase decision? I have been looking for weeks but
did not find any discussion on this topic and I am hoping to get some feed back.

My new box wont move it going in my personal shop. It's going to be used only by me but for business.

 

[LXCam]

There's all kinds of threads on everything they make. Try searching "strictly tool boxes" and you should get all kinds of hits.

 

[MCM1]

Well thank you anyway for your advice.

I have looked for weeks and found nothing on my exact ? I have talked to scott
at extreme tools and find him very customer focused friendly and he shows
genuine concern.

I will just call him back and get his feedback I have been o GJ for 3 years now
and log on daily but I am not a poster so my bad looking for imput.

Again thank you.

 

[FigureItOut]

Well thank you anyway for your advice.

I have looked for weeks and found nothing on my exact ? I have talked to scott
at extreme tools and find him very customer focused friendly and he shows
genuine concern.

I will just call him back and get his feedback I have been o GJ for 3 years now
and log on daily but I am not a poster so my bad looking for imput.

Again thank you.

I think he was trying to be helpful. Members who own this box may not be eager to go over everything again. The best search method is actually to use a Google. Type "(your search term) site:garagejournal.com". Leave out the quotations and parentheses.

That said, a new thread may bring out some useful info from guys who have recently gotten one.

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[thickhead]

I would choose the open style top. Just makes more sense to the way I'd use it

 

[CNGsaves]

Those boxes get very high reviews by GJer's who have bought them.

+1 to use GOOGLE to find all those prior GJ threads.
. . . .thus . .
> > > > > GOOGLE > > > >strictly tool boxes site:garagejournal.com

Quite a few threads, and even this one where guy got nice deal by getting a "scratch & dent" which really just a minor scratch not visible.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136244

This seems to be a often quoted thread by Nissan Crawler who did nice review on Montezuma model # MTZ7216BLS and model # BU7213CH. Check it out as I'm betting it will give you lots of information. Good luck.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42889

 

[LXCam]

I typed in "strictly tool boxes extreme". And got 44 hits and just glancing over the titles think there might be about a dozen threads.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/search.php?searchid=34099649

Sometimes you need to try word the search differently and also you need to read some threads. Many times some guys title stuff indirectly but will talk about it in another thread and provide a link.

Since you joined in 14 and decided to do your very first post complaining youre unable to find something, I wasn't going to go hunting it down for ya. You know, it's the fishing rod approach and not $5 for a meal deal.

 

[MCM1]

I have been searching for answers both through GJ and doing google search
W/ GJ at the end.
I have gotten so much info from GJ in the past I am very grateful.

I have read hundreds of post but I am looking for debate on the open top lid
of the tv5621 vs the xtreme ex5621cr. I like the extra steel of the extreme
it seems a little more stout.

Extreme tools must have a reason for there design of the top. I would rather it be open but is that enough of a reason not to purchase?

I have talked to strickly tools also and they were super.

I tend to over analyze my purchases to avoid buyers remorse.

I need to stick to 20'' depth do to space constraints.

 

[MCM1]

Please don't misunderstand me I am by no means complaining, GJ has been
a big part of my life I really do log on daily and have for years.

I am sorry I don't post life is so busy with wife 2 kids and self employed ect.

Just never enough time.

Thank you GJ for all you have given me.

I did not find any debate on open top vs boxed in.

obviously I understand the difference in the design but at the end of the day
will it matter? I was hoping to hear it from actual users.

 

[ptgarcia]

Maybe your question has been asked and discussed in threads about similar boxes from a different manufacturer? Does Snap On make similar boxes? If they do maybe do a search for those boxes and see what comes up.

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[Wamsutta]

I found the EX5621 but not the TV5621. Perhaps you meant the TV-7217MZ.

 

[gdocktor3]

I can't believe you guys are breaking this guys stones about the "search feature" in regards to a topic I can't recall being discussed, after he said he has already looked. Yet all of you will debate "which brand ratchet, screwdriver, wrench, etc. is better" 3 times a week....

Anyways, MCM1, its hard to say which is the better choice. I have 2 boxes with lids, one always stays opened and I have different magnetic items stuck to it. I also keep all my aerosol cans, oilers, pipe dope, gloves, etc up there for easy access. The other box I lock and keep closed, but tend to put stuff up on top when it is closed.

Personally, I'd go with the lid. That's extra storage space that the EX5621 doesn't have. Unless you want to use the top of the EX as a storage shelf. Plus, things won't fall off the back of the TV with the lid.

 

[gdocktor3]

I found the EX5621 but not the TV5621. Perhaps you meant the TV-7217MZ.

http://www.strictlytoolboxes.com/56-tool-vault-21-drawer-tool-cabinet-top-chest.html

 

[deanlutz]

And some of you people wonder why others don't post much on this site. Bunch of elitist pricks around here

 

[MCM1]

Thank you gdocktor3 that is the type of information I am looking for.

And yes I have used the search feature to the point of almost giving up!

That's why I am reaching out, I can't find any debate on the different pros
and cons pertaining to the different styles.

Again I am ready to buy 1 just this last issue is holding me up.

It is between EXTREME EX5621CR and the TOOL VAULT-5621. go to strictly tools and view the top lid,tool vault is open in the front and the extreme's top is boxed in.

I will add that I want to keep the lid closed when not in use and would not be storing anything up there that would prevent me from closing the lid.

funny thing is I have a HF 44'' box (bottom-top-small side locker) in my basement shop and it has the closed in top like the extreme but now I think the open top would be better for sight but I really want the extreme! ugh

If I could have my choice it would be the extreme with open top in lime green and after talking to scott at extreme they are not doing colors anytime soon.

When they did the yellow it took them a long time to sell through their inventory.

Again thanks for the help and input.

 

[gdocktor3]

I'd go with the open personally. Granted they're only 5' tall and sigh shouldn't be a problem, but I think it looks nicer, easier to access things and easier to clean out.

I don't understand, you want open top and lime green, both of which are offered with the Tool Vault. So why are you stuck on the Extreme? From what I've read, they're identical as far as quality and build. No?

 

[MCM1]

deanlutz I see the 1/4 million thread all the time in new post and I do believe
a lot of people do not post because of they don't want to deal with some issues that arise from posting.

Why did tool vault choose the open top?

Why did extreme choose the boxed in top?

Extreme is the better box did they make a mistake in their design?

I know that the large (extreme tools) badge on the bottom drawer is not liked by many and extreme knows this but still uses it why?

The powers that be at the top are they wrenching?

 

[MCM1]

gdoctor3 the extreme uses 18g steel on there drawers vs 20g on the tool vault plus
the extreme has a upgraded finish with polished aluminum trim.
also I do like the blue color just the green a little more.

 

[MCM1]

Forgot to mention one thing that is of concern with the tool vault is the small drawer height.

Tool vault 2''

Extreme 2.25"

that does not seem like much but it is 12.5% deeper.

 

[buckwheat_la]

First off, shame on all you guys busting on this guy for his question, if you don't have a productive answer then keep your opinion to yourself. It isn't like he asked a question about a Snap On ratchet review or something.

To OP. I can see pro's and con's to both. It really depends what you plan to do with the top piece. If using for sockets and small tools then I like the lip on the extreme. If using for wrenches or air/power tools then I like the other one. Also, how tall are you? The full visual might be better with the TV box....

 

[MCM1]

I am 5' 10''. I was thinking of making a little step that slides under the box if needed for some lift if needed.
Not sure what I will store in there yet, won't be sockets they will go in middle
full drawer, air tools will go in one of the bottom deeper drawers.

maybe just spill over tools like levels-hacksaw-blades ect. I think it will depend on my box choice.

 

[LB-1911]

That's why I am reaching out, I can't find any debate on the different pros
and cons pertaining to the different styles.

Again I am ready to buy 1 just this last issue is holding me up.

It is between EXTREME EX5621CR and the TOOL VAULT-5621. go to strictly tools and view the top lid,tool vault is open in the front and the extreme's top is boxed in.

I will add that I want to keep the lid closed when not in use and would not be storing anything up there that would prevent me from closing the lid.

funny thing is I have a HF 44'' box (bottom-top-small side locker) in my basement shop and it has the closed in top like the extreme but now I think the open top would be better for sight but I really want the extreme!

^
There is the answer

 

[buckwheat_la]

I say go with the extreme. You want it most and it doesn't sound like having the lip is going to matter....

 

[gdocktor3]

gdoctor3 the extreme uses 18g steel on there drawers vs 20g on the tool vault plus
the extreme has a upgraded finish with polished aluminum trim.
also I do like the blue color just the green a little more.

Oh I did not know that. I'd go with the Extreme then. At 5' tall, you shouldn't have a problem seeing into that top section. I use my top section for odd ball stuff like my pneumatic grease gun, tubes of grease, rolls of duct tape, rags, etc. Stuff that is big enough to feel and grab, with out actually having to see them. Again, mine is over 6' tall though...

 

[buckwheat_la]

Btw, it isn't any sort of design flaw. They saved themselves 1.5 to 2 inched of height by doing the lid that way. If you notice the TV box has a larger lip between the top and next drawer down, it is because they need to stiffen up the top for support. That 1.5 to 2 inches ends up being wasted space, where as the Extreme one uses the lip of the drawer as part of the stiffing piece.... (at least that is what it looks like to me...

 

[MCM1]

buckwheat la yes I see what you mean about the wasted space. I think that is how the extreme is able to get their smaller drawers to be 2.25'' high where TV is only 2'' or 12.5% shorter(which is really a lot for some tools).

I appreciate the input and this will help me and others through these differences and help pick the best suited option.

 

[FJ 432]

I can only speak as a guy who buys old boxes.

The newer design of TV I believe became popular with the advent of cordless tools and their chargers, The top of Extreme being more traditional is more functional for hand tools.

Believe me on your last comment.... higher drawers are better.

Thanks for hanging around.

 

[regguy1]

I don't think the slight difference in of 18 v 20 gauge should be a major concern. The 2" drawers are ideal for wrenches / screwdrivers / pliers etc. any deeper and you just have dead air space above, you can see that in the organization video. I was able to use a 2" drawer for 1/4" drive sockets / ratchets / extensions.

I have the Tool Vault with side locker, here are review and tool organization videos of it:

Close up review:

Review :

Tool Organization:

 

[kythri]

I'd recommend this combo:

http://www.strictlytoolboxes.com/al...25-deep-20-drawer-tool-cabinet-top-chest.html

Over the EX5621.

It's a 25" deep cabinet, instead of a 20" deep cabinet. ENORMOUS difference in space.

 

[LB-1911]

I'd recommend this combo:

http://www.strictlytoolboxes.com/al...25-deep-20-drawer-tool-cabinet-top-chest.html

Over the EX5621.

It's a 25" deep cabinet, instead of a 20" deep cabinet. ENORMOUS difference in space.

It appears that the OP has constraints to operate within, cut from a previous post.

I need to stick to 20'' depth do to space constraints.

 

[MCM1]

Thank you for providing insight for me it is helping me make an informed decision.

I do need to stay within that 20'' depth do to available space.

regguy1 I have seen your videos on the tool vault, so you have no issue with the drawers being 2'' high?
How about the drawers being 20ga do you get any flex in them or do they feel
ridged?

LB-1911 thanks for posting both boxes in the post it gives better clarity to the
topic.

 

[buckwheat_la]

Unless the drawers are really large, you are not going to notice a big difference in weight capacity and flex between 18 an 20 gauge.

 

[kythri]

I do need to stay within that 20'' depth do to available space.

Overlooked that, sorry.

 

[regguy1]

Thank you for providing insight for me it is helping me make an informed decision.

I do need to stay within that 20'' depth do to available space.

regguy1 I have seen your videos on the tool vault, so you have no issue with the drawers being 2'' high?
How about the drawers being 20ga do you get any flex in them or do they feel
ridged?

LB-1911 thanks for posting both boxes in the post it gives better clarity to the
topic.

I'm fine with 2" drawers, It allows and additional drawer in the same size box, I prefer that. I wouldn't say the drawers themselves "flex" only flex would be movement in the slides if drawer is pulled out and you move it side to side and I think you'd get that with any gauge metal.

 

[Wamsutta]

That EX5621 looks like it has a lid that's shut. Are you guys saying it doesn't open up?

http://www.strictlytoolboxes.com/56-extreme-tool-boxes-21-drawer-tool-cabinet-top-chest.html

 

[kythri]

My Tool Vault Elite 72" box (TV-7217MZ) from Strictly Toolboxes specs as 18ga shell, 20ga drawers.

I've noticed no drawer flex, and I've got several of the drawers loaded up pretty well.

I would think, comparing the size of boxes, one would notice flex in a larger drawer more than a smaller drawer (i.e. in the bigger 72" x 30" box over a 56" x 20" box).

I don't think you have anything to worry about in that respect.

 

[Wamsutta]

I wouldn't buy a box with 20ga on it anywhere. I think the whole box should be 14ga.

 

[MCM1]

wamsutta look at the photos LB-1911 posted. we are talking about the lip in front of the ex5621 vs the open top of the tv5621. the lid does open on the ex5621cr.

I am leaning toward the extreme like I was from the beginning just because it is an upgrade over the tv5621. I will put least used tools in top area.

 

[Wamsutta]

Oh you mean the cut-out in the front. I think the cut-out looks Lowe's Kobalt'ish, but I guess it wouldn't hurt anything. I tend to stick with whatever the traditional method is.

 

[kythri]

I wouldn't buy a box with 20ga on it anywhere. I think the whole box should be 14ga.

TV-7217MZ specs:

TOOLBOX CONSTRUCTION
Shell Gauge 18 gauge
Drawer Gauge 20 gauge
Caster Channel Gauge 14 gauge

Seems to be pretty dang sturdy. I don't think even a Snap-on KRL is wholly 14ga. Might be a 16ga shell with 18ga drawers.