Northwest 60x60 shop

[sfeldma]

SF: thanks for the 411 on the bolts and i do like the way you framed in the windows. trucks look great and just curious do you have more or are you still buying any. i've got a 1978 Ford c800 flatbed i bought from a closing down steel fab company that is really stout and has the cool smaller size cab so there is also a flat bed area alongside the cab for 20+ foot material. anyway i don't have a huge need or a great place to park if you might want to trade for one of your working pick ups. PM me with your email and i'll send you pictures if you are interested.

Thanks, but I'll pass, only because those last two trucks I bought are 1-1/2 or 2 ton, one with a flatbed with hoist. I think I can make one good truck between the
two.

 

[drivesitfar]

SF: no worries and hope it works out for you. by the way you build a garage I'm betting that rebuilding a truck you can do in your sleep.

take care and please take lots of pictures of your shop and post them as you have time.

cheers

 

[sfeldma]

And the siding answer is:

 

[sfeldma]

10" western red cedar channel siding. I'll run it vertical. There's 5000 lf on the trailer. I had to drive 4 hours to get it (another craigslist find). I think they overloaded me a bit! Should have enough to do all the exterior.

The cool thing I noticed is if you flip the board around, it's milled to look like 4" bead board. Might have to experiment.

 

[sfeldma]

I was inspired by Buickfarmer's barn, before and after pictures where he let the cedar weather naturally. I think I'll do the same.

 

[checkthisout]

I'm in Linn county. My concrete guy is out of Albany; not sure what his range is. I'll PM you his contact info.

Wait a minute.....

Your thread title says "Northwest 60x60 shop"

Did you mean Northeast?

 

[knucklehead]

Wait a minute.....

Your thread title says "Northwest 60x60 shop"

Did you mean Northeast?

nope, that is in Oregon.

 

[checkthisout]

nope, that is in Oregon.

LOL Duh.

All I saw was "Albany" and instantly thought of New York

 

[drivesitfar]

SF: gotta love craigslist. I am really curious how you are going to side the barn so ill sit back and watch. I picked up a trailer load Bout like that of cedar for fencing a couple years ago and going to build a fence this spring with it. Found the little cedar mill on craigslist too about an hour from me.

Did you say you are going to leave the inside open or put in a loft?

 

[sfeldma]

SF: gotta love craigslist. I am really curious how you are going to side the barn so ill sit back and watch. I picked up a trailer load Bout like that of cedar for fencing a couple years ago and going to build a fence this spring with it. Found the little cedar mill on craigslist too about an hour from me.

Did you say you are going to leave the inside open or put in a loft?

Leaving it open for now, but an open loft in the back 20' would be pretty cool. That's where the DJ would set up

 

[drivesitfar]

SF: and when dj isnt using it have a place to put all your old spare truck parts would be nice.

Any progress on the new or old door to hutton it up for winter? Also i didnt see pics of finished roof or stiil working on that?

Cheers

 

[checkthisout]

And the siding answer is:

LOL

I used the 1/2 priced Tyvek too.

 

[sfeldma]

LOL

I used the 1/2 priced Tyvek too.

Home Depot special!

 

[sfeldma]

Cedar siding going up, slowly. It looks good. Picked a green for the window/door/edge trim because it looked good with the cedar.

 

[Toolfool]

You should get your gutters on before the rain starts and splashes mud all over that nice siding. That cedar does look good.

 

[sfeldma]

You should get your gutters on before the rain starts and splashes mud all over that nice siding. That cedar does look good.

That's exactly what I was working on this afternoon, and I'll be working on it tomorrow as well! I have the gutter package, and the drainage pipe is already in place, so I think I can get it all hooked up before the rain on Sat.

I'm going with 5" half-round galvanized gutters with 3" round downspouts. Going for that old-fashioned gutter look. The K-style gutters that everyone wants to sell me would just look strange. I finally found a source for the half-round gutters in Portland. I'll have to rivet/seal together 20' sticks to make the 60" run.

 

[vegar]

And the siding answer is:

I love the look if this wood. Do you have to paint or stain it, or just leave it as is?? We dont have this siding here unfortunatly. And what is the deal with the packages. Is the wood just sorted after lenght, or special cut for lenght??

 

[sfeldma]

I love the look if this wood. Do you have to paint or stain it, or just leave it as is?? We dont have this siding here unfortunatly. And what is the deal with the packages. Is the wood just sorted after lenght, or special cut for lenght??

I'm just going to leave it natural and let it grey and weather. I didn't get much choice on lengths. The boards ranged from 20' down to 8', in 2' increments.

 

[drivesitfar]

SF: was all the siding on your trailer enough to side the entire barn/shop/garage? or do you need to pick up another load? as the cedar turns a kinda grey those green window trims will really pop. the siding looks great so far.

 

[1/2 Cup]

sfeldma you have one extraordinary build, keep up the good work

Regards

 

[sfeldma]

SF: was all the siding on your trailer enough to side the entire barn/shop/garage? or do you need to pick up another load? as the cedar turns a kinda grey those green window trims will really pop. the siding looks great so far.

Thanks!

It better be enough! It's going to be close.

I got the gutter up today on one side, but it was too dark to take a picture. The galvanized half-round gutters look great.

 

[sfeldma]

sfeldma you have one extraordinary build, keep up the good work

Regards

Thanks!

 

[Chilliwack Murray]

Your cedar looks great. I left mine to turn grey as well. Mostly I didn't want to finish it once and have to keep refinishing over and over in the future.

Hard part is waiting for it to weather.

 

[sfeldma]

My recommendation would be that you treat the cedar with some sort of clear acrylic or light colored stain (or whatever color you like!).

You are obviously good at this and making decisions so take it with a grain of salt, but if you don't treat it, it's going weather on the bottom and stay fresh under the eve. You put a nice sized eve on there so it's going to protect the siding really well. I would also recommend that you lay a nice (1 foot wider than the eve) bed of clean drain rock 4-6 inches thick around the entire building. This prevents splashup and just looks good.

And of course, use the best hot dipped galvies for the siding that you can find. so you don't get rust stains. A craigslist find of someone with a couple boxes of 30 +year old nails that have the craggy, knurly, olde skool coating on them would be best.

You have a handsome build, if not one of the finest on Garage Journal, not to mention it's top quality craftsmanship for anyone, let alone a do-it-yourselfer.

Thanks for tips and advice. I thought about using something like Cabot clear but the instructions say re-apply every 1-2 years! A rough calc said each application would cost $1000 just for the clear, not including labor. If I have to replace the untreated cedar in 15 years because its end-of-life, I figured I would come out way ahead.

For nails I'm using 2" hot-dipped Paslode ring-shank nails for my nail gun. They have some green coating on the upper half of the nail...not sure what that is. If they rust and streak, I'm OK with that because it fits in with the "it's been here 100 years" look I'm trying to get. I almost went with Corten metal roofing that flash rusts in 2weeks for that old look, but it was too $$$.

 

[drivesitfar]

SF: i built a cedar pergola and researching stains had prices from fairly cheap to expensive. Since you have so much siding i totally understand you wanting to leave it naked to weather on its own.

I ended up using seikins (sp?) cedar stain and i decided to use a hand electric planer to take off the rough mill look and only used about a gallon for a pretty bug pergola. Funny whan staining a few unplaned boards for my fence they really sucked up the stain so ill be planing my fence boards too. The seikins was $150 for five gallon bucket.

Ill post pictures of my pergola when I stained it and today 3 years later if you want and its getting darker but more of a brown instead of the grey.

 

[356vintage]

Excellent build!

 

[sfeldma]

I got the gutters up just in time for rain/showers. I used 5" half round galvanized with 3" downspouts.

 

[sfeldma]

One side out of four is officially done...

 

[Toolfool]

That side looks great. Nice job.

 

[One-9 Inc]

Probably the coolest build on this site in my opinion!!! AWESOME!!!

 

[my58]

I have read and watched and am truly amazed. It looks incredible, the workmanship is incredible and it blows me away its a DIY project.

You are a great inspiration for me!

I know others are wondering (but I don't think I read where anyone asked)and I realize it is probably rude but I have to ask, I read early on when you started posting where you vanished for a bit because you had a house remodel... Do you do this stuff for a living, how in the world do you get time to work on this incredible build. I apologize for my rudeness but the wondering has been killing me.

Keep up the incredible job and please let us follow along when you start on setting up the interior and start wrenching on a project vehicle.

 

[RossABQ]

What are your plans for coating/sealing the floor? Do you have too much ground moisture to get it to stick?

 

[checkthisout]

Did you get galvanized downspouts and paint the trim green just so it would match these?

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[drivesitfar]

SF: it looked like you were finishing the other side first so guessing the other side is almost done too? Amazing work you've been doing and thanks for sharing pics of your progress.

Did you figure out a solution for the big door?

 

[Jfresh]

I got the gutters up just in time for rain/showers. I used 5" half round galvanized with 3" downspouts.

It seems you always find a bargain. Where did you get the materials for the gutters from? Thanks

 

[sfeldma]

I have read and watched and am truly amazed. It looks incredible, the workmanship is incredible and it blows me away its a DIY project.

You are a great inspiration for me!

I know others are wondering (but I don't think I read where anyone asked)and I realize it is probably rude but I have to ask, I read early on when you started posting where you vanished for a bit because you had a house remodel... Do you do this stuff for a living, how in the world do you get time to work on this incredible build. I apologize for my rudeness but the wondering has been killing me.

Keep up the incredible job and please let us follow along when you start on setting up the interior and start wrenching on a project vehicle.

Thanks for the nice words.

I don't do this for a living. I'm not working right now, so I spend most of my time working on the barn. In fact, today marks 4 months since framing started. When it rains and I can't work on the barn, I'm working on the house remodel (same property). There are still a lot of little things left to do.

 

[sfeldma]

What are your plans for coating/sealing the floor? Do you have too much ground moisture to get it to stick?

No plans...it's just storage for these old trucks. I'm really pleased with the concrete job so far as only have a few hairline cracks.

Now that most of the roofing is on, it's staying pretty dry inside and I don't get the sense that moisture would be a problem. I didn't put any moisture barrier down before the concrete.

 

[sfeldma]

Did you get galvanized downspouts and paint the trim green just so it would match these?

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ind...099075?hash=item25ab8040c3:g:x~0AAOSwyQtVyiS6

Ha! Those are cool! I was thinking I need some lights like that. I'm wondering if I could fabricate a light fixture with that look. The galvanized pipe/fittings are easy; it's the shade that's tricky. Need some kind of old metal funnel with the right shape, and flip it upside-down and fabricate a base. Any ideas for raw materials?

 

[sfeldma]

SF: it looked like you were finishing the other side first so guessing the other side is almost done too? Amazing work you've been doing and thanks for sharing pics of your progress.

Did you figure out a solution for the big door?

Ya, I'm going to start making the big doors; I have a design. I'm going to make a sandwich of two sheets of 3/8" plywood (breckenridge-style exterior siding) and then a layer of the cedar siding I've been using on the rest of the barn. I'll use the other side of the cedar siding which has a 4" shiplap look that's smooth. The plywood will run horizontal for one course and vertical for the other course. I'll use this Real Wood trim (spruce primed finger-jointed, SPF) to build a frame. 2x6 for frame exterior with an inset to capture the plywood/cedar sandwich. I'll use some more 1x6 SPF on the back side of the 2x6 to hold everything together. And some more 1x6 on the front to make the "Z' patterns. And then paint everything the green trim color. Oh, and lots of liquid nails to hold everything together .

I'm going to build the man-door the same way. I ordered six 6" caster wheels for the sliders. I need to get to 3/16 x 3" metal for the rail and start putting that up.

 

[sfeldma]

It seems you always find a bargain. Where did you get the materials for the gutters from? Thanks

Gutterman's in Portland. I shopped around. It was still over $800 just for 128' of gutter and 4 downspouts. Quotes I got to install it were around $2300 (including materials). One quote from installer to just supply same material was $1500. So I'm glad I let my fingers do the walking. It still took me 4 days to install it myself.