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OEM Briggs $60 replacement the carb same as $15 ebay/amazon?

DGersic

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I have a Snapper 1030 snowblower too. About 4 years ago it developed a problem that I was able to isolate to the carburetor, so I removed the carburetor and had a local shop rebuild it for me. It cost about $65.00 total. I reinstalled it and made the proper adjustments, and only used non-ethanol gasoline in snowblower from that point forward. It’s been running like a champ ever since.

For future reference can you provide a link to the carburetor that you purchased? What did it cost?

$15.99 from Amazon in 2018.

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searching for those numbers should turn up another dozen copies of the same design.
 
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Chinese aftermarket carb worked well on my friend's 17hp Kohler. The JD L110 mower she got cheap for $300 has been anything but in terms of parts and labour by yours truly. Still, all these parts have done the business, except for the fuel pump, which took way too much time and troubleshooting to get it to work right. The lever arm was just a hair too long which caused excessive fuel pressure leading to a rough, smoky idle. Took a few tries with a hammer on the paving stones to get just the right arc to it so it would pump but not make too much pressure. Overall, I am satisfied with all of these parts, even with grudgingly supporting Amazon with these purchases.
 

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The carb is going to be a very small portion of that - like $5-8, max.
Agreed, but sending whole bins of piece work is different than inventorying, packaging, inventorying again, skid packing, shipping, distributing, tracking, billing, accounts payable...carbs for individual sale. With that said, the knockoffs seem to have found a way to do it though.
 

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Picked up a used MTD/Tecumseh snow blower for my son last year. Went the cheap route and put the $12 eBay carb on it. Hate to admit it, but it worked great. How can they do is so cheap?
 

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Manufacturing is still pretty cheap here. A highly automated facility could crank out a small engine carb in the U.S for probably about $7-8 all-in.

Like I said, Briggs isn't putting $60 carbs on an engine they're wholesaling for $50-60.
 

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Briggs owns their carburetor plant. They cycle castings as required which are then shipped to the US and assembled. Im not going to argue that a $60 or even a $40 small engine Carb made in China isn't price gouging but you're way off base first claiming that they were 100% identical and then shifting over to its "probably" the same place just making knock-offs. I said it on the prior page and you don't want to comprehend it. They're different, they're made cheaper. The castings are junk, the QC is non-existant, and they use Chinese carburetor insides most times where the Briggs plant uses US manufactured gaskets, floats, needles, and jets (most times). Use whatever you want but step off your soapbox over whats made where because you have no idea what you're talking about. End of discussion.

I read these arguments all of the time on this site with zero actual proof to back up these claims. I suppose we should just put our full trust and faith into random internet user 'Skin' for his take on Chinese manufacturing just because he 'said' it. Oh wait, I forgot the "End of discussion" has been declared by this random bozo - please disregard this comment and anything that may follow.
 

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I have a 13 Horse Harbor Freight Greyhound Engine that I call a "Chonda", it very strongly resembles a Honda. I have twice replaced the original carb with something I purchased from Amazon. I have yet to get a bad one.
 

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The GJ forum helped me fix a dead mower! Small engine repair: New mower from 2015 used once and been dead for a long time. Bought eBay $15 carburetor got it running. Damn ethanol fuel. Going to run some TruFuel ethanol-free gas in each mower before the winter. 904DA07F-0024-48C4-8960-1FA909EE74E9.jpegE475707C-2087-40B9-AD88-57CD8E79F699.jpeg
 

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Similar but not identical carburetors. Started on the first pull. The part #s didn’t help for an old mower so measure the carb throat openings and mounting holes to match the pics. 66CED21C-8618-4E33-A27E-A1634AC3B733.jpegCE05CFAD-1A98-4848-ABC4-2567B9E87AA3.jpeg
 
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So far, I've put the cheapest Chinese carbs I could find on Amazon and Ebay on two different chainsaws, a 6 1/2 horse Briggs on a tiller and a 14 horse Briggs on an older riding mower. All have been flawless.
 

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I, too have gone to the China carburetors. I find they work just like the OEM.

On B&S parts:

I just rebuilt an 18 HP vertical V-Twin. I had to hone the cylinders oversize .020 because B&S no longer carries +.010 pistons. The pistons come with rings and piston pin retainer rings, but not a piston pin. My old piston pins are about 1/8" too long to fit in the new pistons, the retaining ring grooves are too close together. Two weeks of trying by my vendor could not get an answer from B&S about what piston pin I should order. I tried to find it out online, but failed. I ended up shortening my old pins on my lathe with a tool post grinder.

I think B&S changed the piston/pin design when they changed the 18 HP model a few years ago. The piston with that bore sized probably superseded the old one, but they didn't make any service bulletin or note in the parts lists showing the need for the new piston pin. The parts lists still show the old, longer, pin.

Briggs is dead to me now. I'll never buy another of their products.
Briggs, since they have been bought out by KPS, and sell their "OEM" parts via Outdoor Power Direct, who calls themselves"The Briggs & Stratton Online Store" - it is all Chinese junk that they lie, stating on their site: "

"Only Briggs Stratton genuine parts are specially designed to exact OEM standards, manufactured and tested to help deliver optimum performance in Briggs Stratton engines."

Note the word "designed". The only design is the knockoffs made by 50 or more Chinese companies. B&S doesn't manufacture them or test them at all. Even the photos on their site are photos of DIFFERENT carburetors. That is how deceitful they are. Read the negative reviews and how many people paid $110-$140 for the same carburetors that sell for $15 to $40, and are probably the ones that 'Outdoor Power Direct' labels as OEM B&S, which they misrepresent in every way. Read how many either didn't work, or leaked, or made their tractors run so bad, they had to take them off.
 

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Briggs owns their carburetor plant. They cycle castings as required which are then shipped to the US and assembled. Im not going to argue that a $60 or even a $40 small engine Carb made in China isn't price gouging but you're way off base first claiming that they were 100% identical and then shifting over to its "probably" the same place just making knock-offs. I said it on the prior page and you don't want to comprehend it. They're different, they're made cheaper. The castings are junk, the QC is non-existant, and they use Chinese carburetor insides most times where the Briggs plant uses US manufactured gaskets, floats, needles, and jets (most times). Use whatever you want but step off your soapbox over whats made where because you have no idea what you're talking about. End of discussion.
You don't know what you're talking about. Briggs; doesn't own their own carburetor plant for years. They box cheap Chinese carburetors & try to pawn them off as OEM & "tested & adjusted". They are simply cheap junk put in a Briggs & Stratton box. Check out Briggs & Stratton website - you put in a carb part number & then it brings you to "Outdoor Power Direct" which is the garbage hole that B&S now is. Email them (through their site - they're very clever) & ask if they are made in the US. You'll get the answer I got, "We don't know where they are made - could be in China. What utter ruthless thieves!
 

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My Cub Cadet OEM carb and the cheap eBay replacement were both embossed with huayi and the H logo.

They don't appear to be exactly the same though. The relief on the OEM is deeper and the metal just doesn't appear identical to me although I'm not a metallurgist to put a finger on it other than "probably made cheaper." There's also what seems to be a useless set screw on the replacement and a plug on the original.

So I don't think they're actually made in the same factory and/or there was a process change for the aftermarket or mine is a knockoff.

I bought another one just to have on hand and it's definitely different. The bowl is silver instead of gold and there's no Huayi embossing. It's straight up generic.
 

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what a couple of fine first posts 🥶 drag up a 1 year old thread to vent . how about something worthwhile?
I'll add...My yard is all rough hills so the frame broke last fall on the old TSC MTB turd...Sat uncovered behind the shed all winter and spring...Jumped the battery and the cheap carb fired right off into the first crank. Cheap $17 carb still doing its job 4 years later. https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...-as-15-ebay-amazon.421469/page-2#post-7890047

About to take the mower to a buddy who will transplant that engine to his rider that he classically didn't check the oil on....So I will still monitor the function and reliability of the carb.
 

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Briggs, since they have been bought out by KPS, and sell their "OEM" parts via Outdoor Power Direct, who calls themselves"The Briggs & Stratton Online Store" - it is all Chinese junk that they lie, stating on their site: "

"Only Briggs Stratton genuine parts are specially designed to exact OEM standards, manufactured and tested to help deliver optimum performance in Briggs Stratton engines."

Note the word "designed". The only design is the knockoffs made by 50 or more Chinese companies. B&S doesn't manufacture them or test them at all. Even the photos on their site are photos of DIFFERENT carburetors. That is how deceitful they are. Read the negative reviews and how many people paid $110-$140 for the same carburetors that sell for $15 to $40, and are probably the ones that 'Outdoor Power Direct' labels as OEM B&S, which they misrepresent in every way. Read how many either didn't work, or leaked, or made their tractors run so bad, they had to take them off.
"Briggs & Stratton" was taken into bankruptcy a couple of years ago and so is not the same company remembered from my boyhood. I think both the assets and rights to the brand name have a different owner.
I think there is an old thread around here somewhere about this.
(looks like it was "Briggs & Stratton File Bankruptcy"

looks like the bankruptcy filing was July 2020 so the O.P. 's issue might have been earlier (when the old management was in charge)
 
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