OEM Briggs $60 replacement the carb same as $15 ebay/amazon?

[tym]

You can also add Sta-Bil or similar fuel stabilizer to ethanol gas. Not as good as ethanol free, but it helps.

 

[Bighead38]

For those who have trouble finding ethanol-free gas, there’s a free iPhone app “Pure Gas” that will locate stations selling it near you. Not sure if there’s an android version but I’d expect so.

It’s just not available in some areas. I’m not making a 90-120 minute round trip for ethanol free gas. If it was around the corner I would run it but there’s nothing locally.

 

[MattT]

For those who have trouble finding ethanol-free gas, there’s a free iPhone app “Pure Gas” that will locate stations selling it near you. Not sure if there’s an android version but I’d expect so.

They also have a website that'll work on pretty much anything

https://www.pure-gas.org/

 

[JRC3]

I'm having a little confusion finding a carb for an 1980s Honda generator. All the ones I see on ebay seem to indicate they fit the larger models too. The bore size is my concern. Anyone have experience with these old things? I cleaned the bowl and got it running last year and it purred like a kitten at idle and under load, now it won't run without a little choke and even then it's pretty bad. Ethanol free with both. I really want this thing to purr again. Then I'll build a permanent tank from a gas can with a bulkhead. It belonged to a friend's brother who bought it new.

The stock carb seems to be part #16100-ZE1-825 that replaced #16100-ZE1-814. That's what I've found on https://www.ereplacementparts.com/carburetor-assy-p-559861.html and a few other parts sites.

This ebay description leaves me hesitant. https://www.ebay.com/itm/H127-2-163...-5H/222904608393?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144

The other ebay listing I find have the new style switch and make me think the carb is different too, like for a newer model. Maybe the carb is the same.

Thanks.

 

[The Cobbler]

bought one for Tecumseh snow blower. fired right up & didn't need adjusting. year 3 or 4 now, flawless.
I use hi test gas , it's ethanol free. add stabil to it.

 

[kctyphoon]

I'm having a little confusion finding a carb for an 1980s Honda generator. All the ones I see on ebay seem to indicate they fit the larger models too. The bore size is my concern. Anyone have experience with these old things? I cleaned the bowl and got it running last year and it purred like a kitten at idle and under load, now it won't run without a little choke and even then it's pretty bad. Ethanol free with both. I really want this thing to purr again. Then I'll build a permanent tank from a gas can with a bulkhead. It belonged to a friend's brother who bought it new.

The stock carb seems to be part #16100-ZE1-825 that replaced #16100-ZE1-814. That's what I've found on https://www.ereplacementparts.com/carburetor-assy-p-559861.html and a few other parts sites.

This ebay description leaves me hesitant. https://www.ebay.com/itm/H127-2-163...-5H/222904608393?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144

The other ebay listing I find have the new style switch and make me think the carb is different too, like for a newer model. Maybe the carb is the same.

Thanks.

What I did was get engine code - go on B&S site find the carb part # - which was listed as no longer available - that had another "replacement model' part #. Took that # - searched on Amazon/eBay. All the cheap "equivalent models" come up. Amazon is good cause of the reviews - but you have to Wade through the obviously ******** reviews in broken English - or 5 sales with the same sale date... Amazon returns might be easier too.
If you wanna try to salvage the original, invest in a cheap heated ultrasonic cleaner or a find a small plastic container and attach it to a palm sander to make it vibrate in some cleaner.

 

[pelletman]

Or just install the fakespot extension on your browser

 

[thool]

I own an ultrasonic cleaner..... but the nearest gas station to my house sells gas without ethanol. I haven't had any carb problems since I started buying the correct gasoline. None! (Probably 8 years or more)

This is great advice for anyone who buys a new engine. Running with nothing but E0 gas is the easiest way to reduce carb related issues. I'd also add that for those of us in areas where we store summer and winter equipment, running dry, removing the bowl, and spraying with cleaner is a good idea.

I've always had good luck with Briggs engines. Tecumseh not so much.

Opposite for me. My HM80 Sno-King from 1977 has been trouble-free. I'm going to check the valves (clearance/seats) this summer because they're overdue. My 20hp Briggs decided one day decided it didn't need both governor counterweights, and I caught it in time. The part itself was simply cheap, and I bought the mower new and replaced the oil RELIGIOUSLY.

 

[lilredex]

Inherited a Mastercraft 10 HP (Tecumseh) snowblower that had sat outside for 5-6 years and wouldn't start. Put on a new Amazon carburetor ($20) and it runs like new again.

Parts are cheap for those carburetors and I will overhaul the old one and keep as a spare.


https://www.banggood.com/OEM-Genuin...=105229698&sc_uid=T2jaq1ZGLV&cur_warehouse=CN

 

[Georgewerr]

For those who have trouble finding ethanol-free gas, there’s a free iPhone app “Pure Gas” that will locate stations selling it near you. Not sure if there’s an android version but I’d expect so.

I loaded this app to check it out. I have no gas stations anywhere near me that sell ethanol free. There a couple of hard ware stores listed on this app and even they are not close, about 20 miles away. I'm assuming these places are selling it by the Gallon can instead of from a gas pump. I'm in Rhode Island. I went on a trip visiting my son in OKC and I was very surprised to see it at about of 1/3 of the gas stations. I'm guessing either the laws are different here for it or it just is not economical for the area to sell it.

 

[vssjim]

I loaded this app to check it out. I have no gas stations anywhere near me that sell ethanol free. There a couple of hard ware stores listed on this app and even they are not close, about 20 miles away. I'm assuming these places are selling it by the Gallon can instead of from a gas pump. I'm in Rhode Island. I went on a trip visiting my son in OKC and I was very surprised to see it at about of 1/3 of the gas stations. I'm guessing either the laws are different here for it or it just is not economical for the area to sell it.

It's EPA regulated where to sell it with E10 and in the North East maybe in a marina they may sell it if even there as the enviro nuts run everything. Try Lucas ethanol treatment or you can buy the real pricey stuff in quart and gallon cans.

 

[M6erfan]

It's EPA regulated where to sell it with E10 and in the North East maybe in a marina they may sell it if even there as the enviro nuts run everything. Try Lucas ethanol treatment or you can buy the real pricey stuff in quart and gallon cans.

Project Farm did a test on Lucas ethanol treatment a while back.. Results were not too good. Like, waste of money.

 

[bpjr]

After the second new Stihl oem (china) carb failed I finally replaced the carb on my Stihl HL45 hedge trimmer with an $11.50 ebay knockoff and it works fine. The Stihl HL45 carb is totally different than the carbs on all my other brand 2 strokes...echo(2), cman(3), ryan(1), troybilt(1)...but my Stihl blower has a carb that is the same as those brands and given no problems.

 

[JRC3]

So the last $8 carb I bought for the snowblower had a problem. It was idling a tad high so I had to adjust the idle screw about 3/4 turn. Damn junk ebay carbs!

 

[jayfrank5074]

The last two kohler courage single cheap carbs I bought had to have the emulsion tube ball sealed up with fingernail polish and the main drilled so they would run properly.

A kohler command 13hp I put a cheap carb on is now in the scrap and I found a used one to get going on it.


With that being said, I have put them on and not had to turn a screw. Same with Briggs single and twin.

I put a 55 rancher carb on and adjusted the idle, it was $11.

I always try to fix the oem carb when I can.

Hit or miss!!


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[seber]

It's EPA regulated where to sell it with E10 and in the North East maybe in a marina they may sell it if even there as the enviro nuts run everything. Try Lucas ethanol treatment or you can buy the real pricey stuff in quart and gallon cans.

The EPA only requires that for every gallon of E0 a gallon of E15 or above must be sold. The state and in particular the governor is the problem if you cannot get it.

 

[kald]

I've been using them on Toro/Tecumseh for a while. They are far better then what came that turd engine.

I used to get super pissed at the "Guaranteed to Start" on the cowling while pulling 50 times.

Now first pull it fires up, bangs, clangs and spites better than when the piece of trash Tecumseh was new.

Edit: Just put one on Echo Trimmer(Good Machine) and it runs like a champ!!

 

[Wanna Ride]

About five years ago, I had to work on our push mower, that had carb issues. Removed it, cleaned it, and reinstalled it. Wasn’t quite right. Went to the local dealer, ordered some carb parts/gaskets... replaced it all, and it still didn’t run quite right. Got tired of tearing it apart, went back to the dealer, ordered a carb for about eighty bucks. Came home, threw the new carb on and in ten minutes, it was running fine. Been that way ever since.

Fast forward a couple years and started having the same issue on the riding mower. Nope. Not going through this again. Went online, found a factory replacement carb for eighty bucks. WTH... looked a little more and found a “no-name” carb for seventeen dollars. Pictures and descriptions looked identical, and the parts numbers were similar. Screw it... ordered the cheapo and had it in-hand in a couple days. Threw the new carb on and in ten minutes, it was running fine. Been that way ever since.

Back in November, I break out the snow-blower to make sure it’s ready for winter. Guess what... yep. Ordered a cheapo carb for it, after shipping was like twenty-one bucks. Threw the new carb on and in ten minutes, it was running fine. Took longer to take all the shields off. And as luck would have it, we’ve had no measurable snow this year, but if we had, I’m sure it’d still be running fine.

Will I continue to buy cheap, Chinese carbs? Yep. Could have bought all three carbs, and a spare, for less than I paid for the first one on the push mower.

 

[demarpaint]

Odds are the $60 OE carb is nothing more than a re-boxed knockoff. I never bought an OE carb for OPE, the knockoffs worked just fine. I've used quite a few over the years on B&S, Honda, Tecumseh, Lawn Boy, etc. All I ever had to do was adjust them a bit if needed.

 

[madison069]

My luck has been good with the ultra sonic cleaner when I have to do carb cleaning. I'll get the cleaner hot and then let the carb sit for 15 minutes as I keep resetting the sonic cleaner. Gives me time to clean the engine and body of what ever I'm working on. I've saved a lot of small engine that way. Also something to check is the movements of the governor and linkages, if they are corroded or dirty they will cause problems with the carb running right. If the engine is surging or pulsing then check the linkage first, with all of these automatic control engines that's usually the culprit.

 

[bpjr]

My luck has been good with the ultra sonic cleaner when I have to do carb cleaning. I'll get the cleaner hot and then let the carb sit for 15 minutes as I keep resetting the sonic cleaner. Gives me time to clean the engine and body of what ever I'm working on. I've saved a lot of small engine that way. Also something to check is the movements of the governor and linkages, if they are corroded or dirty they will cause problems with the carb running right. If the engine is surging or pulsing then check the linkage first, with all of these automatic control engines that's usually the culprit.

Also...Cooking overnight in a crockpot filled with antifreeze does a good job of cleaning too. It breaks loose stuff you otherwise can't get to. I don't do the small zama and walbro carbs this way but it works great on briggs type carbs. I use straight antifreeze in a $3 crockpot from the church thrift shop. Soaking in cold antifreeze doesn't do anything.

 

[Wanna Ride]

My luck has been good with the ultra sonic cleaner when I have to do carb cleaning.

Also...Cooking overnight in a crockpot filled with antifreeze does a good job of cleaning too.

Those procedures don't work on the plastic carbs, do they?

 

[bpjr]

Those procedures don't work on the plastic carbs, do they?

I've never done plastic parts in the crockpot. Carb plastics get hot so they are probably more resistant to heat than some other plastics. I cook on low heat and that temp will definitely take paint off aluminum.

 

[JRC3]

05-22-2019, 07:27 PM
Just ordered one...Will report once received and installed. https://www.ebay.com/itm/153099030942

Was given a Huskee Supreme MTD (Troy Bilt Bronco) with a **** Kohler Courage 19 (SV590) engine. It's very low hours but has been sitting for years...Cleaned the carb but still won't run without choke. Carb solenoid is also bad. For $17 I'll just throw one of these ebay carbs on it.

Fired right up after winter storage and mowed the lawn on Thursday. Ran like a champ.


*edit*
Just checked and that carb is now $12.88.

 

[JRC3]

Gonna some more. LOL

This thing is still running like a champ. Sometimes I choke it to start, and half the time I forget to check and it fires right up on the lowest throttle setting from when I pulled it in to park it after the last mow.

 

[nadogail]

I buy my Caveat Emptor Chondra clone carburetors from Amazon.

 

[kody1234]

i work on a lot of small engines,i have used a lot of the cheap carbs and have had good luck with them.most people leave ethanol fuel in storing there equipment.

 

[redmondjp]

My neighbor put a new Chinesium carburetor on his Craftsman YT3000 lawn tractor. It wouldn't idle worth a darn. I attempted to adjust the idle mixture screw - you could go from fully closed to 5 turns open with no affect to how it ran. My conclusion was that they had forgotten to drill out some interior passageway for that fuel circuit.

I rebuilt his old carb and it runs perfectly now.

Pump gas with the alcohol in it is the devil's brew in small engine carbs. For all of my small engines I made the switch to alcohol-free gas, stored in sealed metal containers, and my gas never goes bad, and I routinely use gas that is 2 years old and it still performs as fresh gas does. I leave the gas in the equipment over the winter and it starts right up in the spring. My biggest problem is that my neighbors refuse to use it, and then want me to come over and fix their equipment when it doesn't start. I need to tell them that I won't do it any longer if they continue to use pump gas.

 

[yrly]

I don’t think I replied to it here on this forum. I purchased a “seized” husqvarna walkbehind weed Trimmer at Lowe’s 3 years ago for $50. Well it wasn’t seized they just didn’t realize it the choke effectively worked as the deadman break and I got it started and used it the first season. Last season it was incredibly hard to start. Has one of those Briggs Plastic carbs. Now I work on small engines and haven’t had real issues with this carb on other mowers. So I eventually get it started. This spring? Dead again.

Now of course it needs a choke carb which is less common than the primer bulb variety so not being to be able to wait 3 weeks to get one from China I order a US stock primer bulb variety and plugged off the primer intake (I’m unsure if I’ll later adapt this to a primer, leave it, get a choke version). Slap it together and it fired right up.

I cleaned the old carb and put it away, I doubt I’d use it outside a pinch as usually these aren’t that problematic for me. So this ones a win for a me.

On the Tecumseh front two years ago I order three “wholesale lots” of carbs for $9.99 a lot. I figured it’s a typo and I’m getting 3 carbs which was what I needed. Week later UPS shows up with three huge boxes of 30 carbs. I used 3 kept 10 and sold the rest on Craigslist. These were decent quality with idle adjust screw for the snow king engines. I had garbage picked one all rusty sandblasted it off, replaced the fuel lines, slapped one of these on since the thing had been left outside and the carb was entirely destroyed, and it fired right up.

I replaced two more with those carbs without issue either. So far 4 for 4 worked fine.

Usually I prefer to clean the existing carbs if possible, however they seem like a workable alternative in my book.

 

[bpjr]

The china clone carb on my stihl hedge trimmer is still going strong since my post on it last march. It has about 2 gals of gas through it since installed. All I've had to do is tweak the mixtures when first installed. Stihl has a new automatic mixture control carb now. I wonder what thats about?

 

[Psiber]

Used to have issues every Spring with my trimmer mower with the B&S plastic carb. Followed this guy's advice and no issues since:

 

[Mr_B]

I rescued an old hedgetrimmer by converting it to a china primer bulb walbro style carb from non primer .
was easy get right flange and throttle position and even the original metal throttle bracket would mount to it.
Other plus was could get the copy carbs with high and low mixture adjustments on the lifting needle type and this allowed fairly easy setting to the specific engine .
Quality ain't great, primer bulbs best replaced pretty quick and any fuel lines they may include best junked .
Reality is many factories are producing these carbs and some better than others so got look them over pick one with good features but rare find any that exact same source/spec as oem .
The real key to minimal carb issues is good fuel, stick with no ethanol in small equipment and life is good, my tanks left full and I rarely ever get a no start or running issue . Ethanol has caused huge amount environmental damage from farming it and wasted equipment/parts from using it ...

 

[JRC3]

Got one coming for the old Honda gen. $25 bucks with air filter, fuel filter, insulator...I won't use the plug. I'll post the results.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16100-ZB2-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

 

[Skin]

If you're going to throw something out I'd toss the air filter before the plug. They usually arent the same as OE in filtration. If you insist on using it at the very least oil it.

 

[JRC3]

Honda replacement carb results.

Had to adjust the governor, and now playing with the pilot screw a bit.

Overall, satisfied.

Vid of running it through different loads with a space heater, volt meter, and Smartthings plug to read wattage. This old gen has a set throttle and I've set the rpm by feel, I've ordered a tach to get closer. Pretty sure I'm a few hundred RPMs low right now no matter what the vid sounds like.

Is this my fourth or fifth inexpensive ebay carb...I'm losing track? Second season now on my riding mower carb that I use weekly.

 

[Lost Pup]

I used the cheap Kohler M18 carbs from eBay on my Wheel Horse tractors. Purchased one then a second for my two tractors. Have run both for multiple seasons with no problems.
I long soaked the originals and rebuilt them for future use if I need them.
Great value purchase and they do run very well.

 

[bpjr]

Since my last post on this I bought china carb clone for a 38cc craftsman chainsaw. The cman carb had a plastic arm that broke and immediately stopped running. The clone arrived and had a metal arm instead of plastic and runs perfectly. I had to adjust the mixture screws but otherwise another win.

 

[Joe Mamma]

I am digging up this old thread because I am looking to buy a carburetor for a snow blower. I am going to try one of the cheap Chinese ones from ebay.

I am one of those people that does NOT think they are all the same. But I am OK with taking some risk.

Does anyone have any tips or tricks on how to pick a good product or good seller?

If it matters, the carb is for a Troy-Bilt Storm 2410 snow blower with a 179cc engine. It's made by MTD and is about 5 years old.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Joe Mamma

 

[ericg]

I have purchased several Yermax replacement carbs from Amazon and have no complaints. I think that all these Chineseium carbs are probably made by one or two manufacturers and sold under many different names.

 

[Mr_B]

there are a lot more than 1 or 2 manufacturers ...