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gapfast

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I have a new to me compressor.
The belts seem to be pretty loose. How tight are they suppose to be? Where would I get new ones?
Its a 432.
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They're just belts, get them from anywhere that sells belts. They should be reasonably tight, something like 3/8" deflection when you push on them.

Also, I want a 432 in the worst way. What did that thing cost you?
 
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Thanks jim. How do go about tightning the belts? 200$. It seems I have more in the wiring part of it so far.
Looks like I will hit my napa up and see if they have the belts.
There is some oil around the bottom of the pump. I need to pinpoint where that leak is coming from
 

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I have a new to me compressor.
The belts seem to be pretty loose. How tight are they suppose to be? Where would I get new ones?
Its a 432.
Thanks

Grainger, Fastenal, Ace, lock hardware store.
 

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Fastenal sells belts?? Cool. Got one of them right next to work

Yeah any industrial supply type place should have them, I often use Tractor Supply for belts.

$200 is a good price, those pumps are tough as nails and just chug along for ages. What size motor are you using on it?
 
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Yeah any industrial supply type place should have them, I often use Tractor Supply for belts.

$200 is a good price, those pumps are tough as nails and just chug along for ages. What size motor are you using on it?

It has a baldor 5 on it
 
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Good looking compressor, loosen the bolts on the motor and slide back for tension.

I would just tighten them, but the middle belt is more sloppy than the outer ones. What ya think? I'm sure the belts haven't been replaced in well over a decade though.
 
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Ok. Got the belts. Having a hard time tightening them though...
Any tricks? I'm using a craftsman spreader but I can only get 2 of the 3 tight
 
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Ok new problem. Finally got it wired up and running:
Found out tank has a hole. Gonna replace it. While I was taking it apart I noticed(that no man can pull this flywheel off with his bare hands)that the fly wheel has some play in it.
Not flywheel on shaft play but shaft in pump play. Normal?
 

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No expert, the crankshaft shouldn't have any noticeable play in the case/pump. Kams1973 and I removed my Kellogg flywheel by removing the main bolt and inserting a large chisel to spread the collar open a bit. Next step was gently tapping it with a sledge and wood blocks to slide it off the shaft. It took about an hour but I had great help.:thumbup:
 
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i had to drill 3 small holes in the flywheel in order to restore this old pump....there was nooooooo wayyyyy that 16" flywheel was coming off without a puller.....make shure you put a washer or something inbetween the puller and the crank shafte end threads or the puller will wreck them.
 

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Sweet idea!!! Thanks bud.
Well after looking I don't know if I could dp that. My flywheel is a bit different
 

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Sweet idea!!! Thanks bud.
Well after looking I don't know if I could dp that. My flywheel is a bit different
 

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if that was mine, i would still consider drilling at least 2 holes across from each other for the puller. Its a pretty thick chunk of meat ther(thicker than mine was ), shouldnt weakn it.....You could also drill and tap would b cool , if you dont want to go all the way through. I bet that casting is easier to drill through than you think, its not solid bar stock center there. If it is easy to drill...i would do all three. Keep posting pictures , some of us on here luv compressor rebuilds
 
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Drillin an tappin is not a bad idea. Just got a brand new set itchin to get used.
The pump looked horrible inside...
Where to get parts, I need bearings for sure and a oil seal
You can see in the last pic where it was just hanging there.
Should I bead blast the connecting rods...?
 

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that's a neat neat pump man. In your third picture, that large ring behind the crank, going into the oil sludge there is an oil pick up. It somehow helps alottttt in the lubrication and long life of this pump. Do you hav a lathe or a way to spin that crank....i would polish those rod journals on the crank with 400Grit after you clean it up.
 

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i think this is the deVilbiss 447 pump crank case, with the oil pressure rings
 

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On pulling the flywheel... is there enough space between the flywheel and the pump to get a piece of bar stock in there? You could try to put the metal behind the fins and then use the puller bolted to that. That way you don't have to put holes in the flywheel itself.
 
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that's a neat neat pump man. In your third picture, that large ring behind the crank, going into the oil sludge there is an oil pick up. It somehow helps alottttt in the lubrication and long life of this pump. Do you hav a lathe or a way to spin that crank....i would polish those rod journals on the crank with 400Grit after you clean it up.

Yes gonna clean crank up good. What about rods? There rusted and corroded bad. Bead blast ok?
 

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yah, bead blast would be good. Just unassemble them, mask the bearing surfaces good.
 
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Finally!! Puller. Borrowed from a friend worked like a charm.
Bearings on crankshaft, whats the secret to getting them off?
 

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After looking closer at the crank, its in bad shape. Needs turned. Would need oversized bearings but not sure I can still get em....ill post a pic tmrw
 
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Got all the parts blasted, but they are still kinda dirty. Inside the heads and block and intercoolers, couldn't reach inside. What do you suggest?
 

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Maybe. I just hate to use water because of rust. But soap and water moght do the trick. Inside the intercoolers will be the hardest to get
 
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