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Above 1200 Sq/FT Overcoming Good-Deal-Itis One Project at a Time

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Going to give this a try, been on the HAMB and Garage Journal for many years and figure I need to give back some. I’ve gotten many great ideas here and I should share some of the things I’ve done too. I was a Snap-On Tools Dealer for 30 years and one of the side-effects was what my wife calls “Good-Deal-Itis”! In my weekly travels I would see cars, tools, parts, material, livestock, etc that were then offered to me for a “Good-Deal” and way too good to pass up! When I moved to Flagstaff in the early 90’s everything in my garage fit in the back of my 73 Ford F-100 shortbed pickup, now if or when I move Semi’s will be involved. Around 2010 my wife and I moved into our garage temporarily, it’s 40x75 with the last 40x15 as a 600 sq ft upstairs apartment with an office and storage on the ground floor. We had planned on eventually building a house on our 3 1/2 acre property, but after the economy collapsed, we just have lived in our tiny home years before it became cool! So the actual shop is 40x60 with 4 bays and 10’x10’ doors and 12’6” ceilings. One bay has a ALM7001 clear floor lift that I’ve barely been able to use from all the years of good deals and also all the inventory that comes from being self employed. Fast forward to 2019 and we retired from selling tools (yes, my wife also had a route for almost 15 years!) and I was paralyzed with not knowing where to start on the daunting task of retired life renewal.
Towards the end of summer 2019 I finally started the process….
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This is after I’d already moved about 25% of the treasures! My plan was to build full depth shelves tying into the pony wall that the county building inspector made me build in the shop. They would end up very deep, but I’ve got long arms. But first all this had to move! And to move it all I had to make room for it elsewhere. In the end I didn’t move it all, I just worked around it. I had a pretty good plan for the shelves because when we moved into this place it was supposed to be temporary, so all the stuff from our nearly 2000 sq ft house was stored on this mini-mezzanine I had built. F362A9CD-7514-4074-90A9-1EB52759AC2D.jpeg
So after getting enough stuff moved I started the build. First step was to get the top shelf up that ties into the mini-mezzanine.
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I painted everything bright gloss white for easy cleanup and maximum light reflection. One trick I learned from selling tools was to paint the underside of a shelf bright white to reflect light as far back on a shelf as possible. Worked in my tool trucks and worked here nicely.
Lots more to come as the above was around December 2019.
Thanks for looking,
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I have the bad habit of when I do decide to do something, I REALLY do something! These shelves are a great example, very overbuilt. All 2x4 lumber except for the top shelf that is 2x6, headers screwed directly into wall studs, 4x4 vertical supports, everything is 2’ on center, and completely screwed together with SPAX #10 torx headed fasteners and Simpson componets.
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Got a little fancy on the end corner, didn’t want a sharp 90 that I knew I’d invariably find with some delicate body part!
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Tied the center of the horizontal 2X’s into the pony wall with lag screws.
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I luckily got started on these shelves before Covid and bought most of the materials before crazy began. The HomeDespot still got a lot of my loot, so much I’ve not kept track. What I do not know can not hurt me!
 

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Nice shelves Jimmy. My dad an I built shelves just like that in my first house. It was a brand new house with a two car garage. I didnt have a lot of storage. So my dad an I built similar shelves just like that. Its always nice to know the snap on man. The wife gets mad when I go visit my snap on man. It always cost something.
 

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Throwing words like Spax and Simpson around is what I had to do to get my plans approved for my garage. A buddy of mine had same issues with our town planning dept. He wrote the same plan but only difference was he said he was using Simpson strong ties and they approved it. We both swear they get a Kickback from simpson. They told me I could not use tapcons for securing sills to floor and had to use Simpson titen bolts which are essentially the exact same thing. Shelving looks good!
 

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Bought a second hand generator cheap from a neighbor. Over the years I have acquired several 12AWG 100' extension cords. In the 20+ years I have had these items, they have been used TWICE ! Kept my daughter's family warm for the past 2 nights.
 
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I figured it would be a lot easier if I painted everything before I cut them to size and screwed it together, but juggling boards being painted and then trying to work in that tight area was a challenge. All of this fun is happening in my farthest east bay in my garage. I got the south side done and then started on the north side.54D1D4FB-9D6E-4F90-B483-294CAF184BAC.jpeg4E1406BE-AE9F-4214-8F66-F3C7EDE5B715.jpeg8B64671F-8125-426A-8E5B-D8F1FF365FDA.jpeg
To give something for the actual shelf to sit on behind the 4x4 vertical post I added a small kicker.368A9FB8-E6FD-40B4-8866-548B68A558AD.jpeg
North side getting started…
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This side was a bit more of a challenge because I had to attach the far north horizontal supports to the cinder block wall.
All of this is in April of 2020, slow but steady builds a wall of shelves!
 
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Finally got all the 2X parts installed on both sides and then started on the plywood shelf sheeting. Went with 3/8” as I figured with everything on a 2’ center it would be more than strong enough, especially if I screwed it down with the #8 SPAX every 6”…. Looks OK (Over Kill) to me!
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Like I mentioned before I painted the bottoms of the plywood with the same bright white gloss paint and I think it really helped brighten it up towards the back of these deep shelves.
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Then I learned a little lesson about making stuff fit really tight. I had to pull half the short front to back 2X’s just to get the shelf sheets in place. Built a bit to tight! Good thing I was using screws.
This is now August of 2020, seems like I’m not making much progress on these, but we also went to Bonneville for SpeedWeek and put in a huge garden so we had something to do during the depths of Rona. 41F13324-2804-4496-BAA1-35FD8BEA9950.jpeg
My wife says I’m a “Corn Star”!
 
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When I drove my last new tool truck home from the Snap-On convention in Nashville back in 2018 my first stop was Costco to pickup some supplies…
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Stopped along the way for some Texas Tea…
About 1/2 way home I started sweating bullets at every Port of Entry, how was I going to explain a tool truck full of “contraband liquid”?! Luckily the only state that even looked twice at my truck was New Mexico in the wonderful Land of Entrapment! I’m getting thirsty just looking at these pictures….
 
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It really depends on what you want to do and what they want also. Like life, it’s complicated! Lol! I’m just ecstatic that I was able to retire so young and then get to do whatever I want from now on. Funny thing is, I bought the new truck in August of 2018, took a month to get it loaded and setup the way I wanted it (while still working in my route 60 hours a week) and then I retired January 1st 2019! The company that builds these trucks said it is very common for long term dealers (30 years for me) to spend all the effort and expense to get a new truck and then retire less than a year later. And I’m also very biased about the value of the tools that I sold, so I’ll only say I don’t regret a single one that I’ve bought, from before I was a dealer, during my years selling, and yes, even today, my current dealer comes by every couple weeks. I really hope he got my stuff in!
 

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Seeing the bootleg pictures reminds of when some friends of mine came from South Dakota to visit. One of ‘em is from Texas and stocked up on beer and the other is northerner and had never seen or had Big Red soda. When they came down they had two Harley’s in the bed of a short bed 84 Silverado. When they left they only had one Harley in the bed as the rest of it was full of Lone Star and Big Red as was the passenger side of the cab. They took turns riding the remaining bike and driving back to Sodak. When I say the bed was full it was stacked to the rails with beer and soda, pretty sure that truck was close to if not over loaded.
 
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Once the shelves were complete I was able to add what I hope will be the solution to one of my pet peeves…..
DUST!
When I was moving all my treasures I had my air compressor running constantly, blowing all the fine Arizona dust off of everything that had been motionless for more than 5 minutes. Those of you in the East think you have dust, you have no idea what dust is until you’ve been to Arizona, home of the Haboob! We get dust storms here that turn day into night. They teach young drivers how to not get killed if you’re caught in one. So, when I was at SEMA in 2019 I think I saw a revelation….
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Goff’s Curtain Walls! As effective as a solid door, but I could see right thru them to find whatever I was looking for! My favorite color on the bottom and clear up to the top with a white band for trim. Perfect!
Now I just needed to move everything back onto the new shelves…
From this….
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To this!

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I really like that I can see what is where! Goff’s is a great company, they invented this whole industry, and their products are awesome! If you have similar situation, this might work for you.
Did I mention “Good-Deal-Itis”! Lol!
 
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Fantastic dust solution! Dust is something I would not have thought about....until it was 1/4" deep over everything. Speaking of your favorite tool, I still use Snap-On tools that my dad bought back in the late 1940's. Along with many new acquisitions, too. ;) My grandson will be using these long after I'm gone.
 
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When I made the choice to retire in 2019 a contributing factor was that my parents had decided to move out of California and to Flagstaff to be closer to me and my wife. My father was very Norwegian, hardheaded isn’t even a insult to those people. If you weren’t 15 minutes early, you were LATE! And ”can’t“ wasn’t even considered a word. So I knew that my 80 year old man would move himself, my mom, and all of his “treasures“ all the way to Flagstaff by himself, or die trying! So right after we retired, we started moving everything to Flagstaff, seven trips in all, 2200 miles round trip. That pretty much consumed most of 2019, we did make it to Bonneville for SpeedWeek and I also finally got to go to SEMA! Very cool, both of those should be something anyone who loves automobiles should go see! But, unfortunately towards the end of 2019 my dad got sick and passed early 2020. Looking back now I’m very thankful that it was as quick as it was and that my dad passed right before Covid hit. His passing was horrible, but I can’t even fathom how much worse for my mom and me if we hadn’t been able to be there for him, and for us too. I’m sure you all are wondering how this fits with my thread…
After my dad passed, my mom let me know that she was going to move to be closer to my sisters, so I needed to get all my dad’s treasures, that had taken nearly a year to bring to Flagstaff, moved to my place cuz she was moving in two months! Grief is a funny creature, you really don’t know how someone will ever respond to it. My dad‘s passing really hit me on Father’s Day. My birthday is very close to it and we always had a private celebration between the two of us. My mom had a Git’R Done attitude, she looked at the move as a way to not think about my dad. But now I had to figure out what to do with all his things. So this wasn’t a case of Good-Deal-Itis, but it is something I have to overcome…
 
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2021 started out as a continuation of 2020, and that year was so bad I even got the hat!75AF9BD1-C75B-46A6-8334-F3AC356FDE28.jpeg
Seemed like nothing was going right and the whole world was in chaos. I did get another project (a really good deal too!) when a friend told me about a 1937 Chevy Gasser that had been sitting in a garage near him for over 40 years. You can catch the whole story here on the HAMB..
So now I really needed to get my rear in gear, more stuff! So I started looking for things I really didn’t need, things just taking up space. One of those things was my large collection of bolt bins. Thru the years I had been given a few, a couple came with the grade 5 & 8 fasteners assortment I’d bought from Fastenal, and more that I really couldn’t remember their origin.
I took a couple that were matching and bolted them together back to back and built a frame for casters so it was mobile. I did this originally while I was still selling tools to hold excess ratchet inventory.
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Since I was retired, it was now empty, so I moved all my fasteners into it. Very convenient as I can now move it close to what I’m doing and put it away when I don’t need it. Two of my buddies were very happy when I gifted them the overstock!
Next I got going on my electrical supplies. I had a wire spool assortment and kept trying to figure out where to mount it, what wall or shelf would be most convenient when electrical work was happening. And I had all my wire connectors, heat shrink, solder, and wiring tools. I was looking around and then it was…. Duh, same as the fasteners, but different! I had an old Craftsman cheap bottom box of my dad’s. Perfect!
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The two top boxes are now somewhere else and I’m going to get some nice plywood and 18 gauge sheet on top so I can mount a small vise for a soldering station.
We are now to the end of 2021. Kinda sobering how little I got done in my garage in the past year. But once again it was a very busy year. Drove across America, got to see parts of this great country I’d never seen before. Got to experience a South East Gasser Association drag race down in the Deep South. Learned what Southern Hospitality means firsthand! Almost went to Bonneville again, but the Rona had different plans…. A great friend and I attended Frank Hawley’s Drag Racing School at Maple Grove and I’m now licensed to go 7.50’s in Super Gas! Don’t know how you guys do it in the South and the East, it was so hot and humid there in Pennsylvania in August!
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Was able to go to SEMA again after the lockdowns let up a bit, it wasn’t as big as 2019 but still cool to go to. I mostly spent the year figuring out what to do with a bunch of stuff. Sold a lot of items, gave a bunch away, and just thought about what to do next. Life is good, especially if you think about it for just a bit!
 
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Back in 2011 while visiting friends in crown king az , they commented how good a yuengling would taste...guess what Ups hauled up the hill a few weeks later !
All my friends know that if they are traveling from Yuengling country to within 100 miles of me that a few brown boxes of elixir will be very appreciated. I’ve been able to maintain a constant supply for over 20 years! My greatest feat was surprising my buddy who’s a Wisconsin native. He was lamenting how his favorite was only available in the Cheese Head State!
My wife and I bought an Amish bed and when it got delivered I was talking to Jason the delivery guy. He told me he makes a roundabout trip thru Wisconsin to the West Coast about once a month in the wintertime. So being the very persuasive person that I am, and I really like a challenge….. The next time my Wisconsin buddy stopped by I asked him to grab us a couple beers outta the shop fridge. Should have seen his face when there was a case of these icy cold!2108C5C2-C935-4324-8429-6856FC79F4E7.jpeg
Being as it was the weekend before the SuperBowl I asked him if he’d like some for game time. He started to pull a few out of the fridge before I stopped him and suggested he just take a whole case out of the stack beside the fridge. He almost had a conniption, so much fun!
Mmmmmmmm….. Beer….. not just for breakfast anymore!
 
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The local Sam’s Club was a Price Club over 35 years ago. About 25 years ago some higher up at Sam’s decided he didn’t like the blue Price Club pallet rack shelving, so he made the executive decision that either they get painted the official Sam’s Club color or get them the hell outta his store. It was cheaper and more efficient to just replace them, so for the next couple months all you had to do was show up in the early mornings and load up FREE pallet rack shelves. Sounds like a Good-Deal to me! Thru the years my pile has slowly shrunk, I probably only have the horizontal beams left, no more verticals, but if you put out the word other “Collectors” usually have some they’ll give up. When I moved into my current shop I put up a couple between the 3rd and 4th bays. I used them to store inventory when I was in business and they also just became a catch all, way too much horizontal space for me to have ready access to!
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So I came up with a plan that would solve a couple problems and maybe help with my planned changes. My 4th bay now that I got the shelves done and pretty much dust proof was going to be my “dirty bay” where I would do all my fabricating, heavy grinding, glass bead cabinet and welding area. But first I needed to make these shelves not so see thru. So I spent a bit figuring out how to wrap the whole thing in 3/8” plywood but also reinforce it so I could utilize all the vertical surfaces for hanging stuff. 2x4‘s screwed to the racking would work, I hoped.
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Wood got a little wet coming home so had to let it dry for a while. I again painted everything before I put it up cuz I really hate trying to not paint everything! I used 1/4” carriage bolts to bolt it all to the steel, worked great.
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1st phase done! Moved my welding table (2’x4’ piece of 2” steel plate!) into the dirty bay. Before I wrapped the shelves I had rearranged the shelves, putting the bottom shelves high enough so I could stand under them to work. I also put my band saw under them and made room for other equipment that only made debris but not dust.288851FC-86E2-49B3-98E5-03E1E87CEF9C.jpeg
Now I really needed to get serious with my organizational plans, cuz I’d gotten a couple more “Good Deals”….
Till next time, I need to get to work!
 

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Goff’s Curtain Walls! As effective as a solid door, but I could see right thru them to find whatever I was looking for!

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I really like that I can see what is where! Goff’s is a great company, they invented this whole industry, and their products are awesome!

Thank you for posting this! I was just about to start researching curtain walls for my 'wash' bay in the Hanger. I also like the idea of using them to keep storage from getting dusty!.
 
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It is now June of 2022 in my Good-Deal-Itis world. And cruising around on Facebook Market Place I came across what seemed like a good deal. Before I sold tools I was a Steam Plant Repairman at one of the largest coal fired stations in America. My job was like a MillWright, mechanical in most ways. If something needed welding, there were certified weldors to weld, if it needed machining, master machinists were ready and able. Because I wasn’t allowed to do those things, I was fascinated by them. The skill those trades possessed. I was just a righty-tighty, lefty-losey guy. So I always wanted to at least give both of those processes a try, I just needed the stuff! Middle of June last year I get a hit on my search for Engine Lathes on FBMarketplace…
Guy down in Sierra Vista is selling a Craftsman 12x36 lathe and all the tooling for a good deal….
I’m in! Load up my truck and trailer and my loving wife and south we go.
What I got from Randy and Linda was better than even I ever get! Got it moved into my shop.
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And then moved it into it’s new home under the shelves I wrapped with plywood.

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The amount of accessories that Randy included with the lathe is incredible….
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There was also a small Craftsman box filled with more tooling…
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Between all the inserts and HSS cutters I’m probably set for life. There is a Milling attachment here too, so all the end mills and other non-lathe tooling will come in handy in the future when I move to more than turning projects.
 
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Randy had purchased the lathe when he got stateside after flying forward observation airplanes for the Army in Vietnam. Purchased it from the local Sears store back in 1974. I remember seeing these in the Craftsman Tools catalog back then, never thought I’d ever be able to own one. Randy also had the other stuff you need to have, and he gave me everything!
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Owners manual, very nice to have the original!
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Nice little future project when I learn how to not destroy whatever is in the chuck!
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Randy even gave me a bunch of material!
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When everything was loaded up to head back North the bed of my truck was full of boxes that were filled with every item individually wrapped and labeled. My trailer was full too! One of the last items he gave me was this, he said it’ll come in handy someday…
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Till next time, I really need to get busy!
 
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July, 2022…. Sounds a bit like Star Date! But more like, time for another Good Deal!
I’m poking around on Craigslist or FBMarketPlace and I come across this…
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Phoenix Phase Converters GP3PL 3HP rotary 3 phase converter for practically 50% off, was a demo at a equipment show and now has to go. Why would I need this? Because my best friend who’s been a machinist for nearly 50 years is retiring and he is giving me a great deal on what ever I want in his shop, first dibs! And now I really do need the tram gauge Randy gave me, cuz I now have this…
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My friend ordered this back in September of 1973 and it took almost a year for it to be built and finally delivered to him August of 1974! Ex-Cell-O 602 9x42 mill with Sony DRO and power X&Y feeds. And another ton of accessories, Kurt vise, complete set of R8 arbors, rotary indexing head, sine table, a bunch of end mills and cutters. Hopefully I’ll live another 40 years so I can learn how to use all this awesome machinery!
 
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This Ex-Cell-O mill is a beast, it’s like a Bridgeport supersized! Even all the hold down tooling is bigger, had to buy the 11/16” T-Slot setup! The quill is over 3 1/2” in diameter and it’s 2 hp. I’m very cautiously getting to know this machine cuz I know it can rip both my arms out and beat me to death!
 
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To move the mill over to my shop I definitely needed help, and lucky for me I have a buddy that moves stuff like this all the time for the local university and schools here in town. I was really stressed out thinking about it, he said “No problem!” So the night before I loaded up my forklift..4012F975-D92B-48DD-90CB-400730CB6AA2.jpeg
Yup, it was a “Good Deal”! And who doesn’t need a forklift?!
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Got it loaded and then hauled to my shop. My buddy showed me the easy way to move a vertical mill…
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Move the head and table all the way back and then pick it up with a 4x6 oak timber. Worked great, but at 2400 lbs my lift was on it’s tippy toes!
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Got it all moved in and then realized I wanted it to face the other direction so back out and then in, so we moved it twice!
The Ex-Cell-O manual had exactly how to lift it damage free. I did get all the original documents for it too!

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Now I have more stuff to rearrange! Lol! And I need to figure out how to get power to all this new stuff. So much to do, so much fun!
 
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