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Yes I use a buffing wheel on my bench grinder and it works great. Without knowing the condition of your plumb tool, I would be hesitant to use a brillo pad. Try using the buffing whee first with compound before using something more aggressive like the brillo. You will be surprised how well it will clean up.
 
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Correction scotch Brite pad not Brillo Pad. Thanks. I was just worried about taking the finish off of the tools.


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My favorite Plomb ratchet
 

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Nothing exciting, but I added a 3/8 ratchet. Also have a 1/2 breaker bar coming. I can't believe you can still get this stuff so cheap.

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And now added a 1/2" drive breaker bar.

What's a guy gotta to to get a toolmobile or top chest? Just get completely lucky?

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Bought a 1/4" ratchet, t handle and box. Added some old craftsman standard sockets and a snap on extension with handle. Was planning to give to my girlfriend because she liked my little plomb 1/4 ratchet.

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(6) !/2" socket set in sequence 7/16" - 3/4". They have a beautiful silver/bronze war like finish even though they are not marked WF and unlike many of my other Plomb's. Pics color balance is way off but these are almost new.

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Has anyone seen these before? I have yet to find another example just like these.
 

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Yes, but not often. I have one of these in an 11/16ths size. Would like to get the rest of the set though!

Here's a better picture with the correct color balance.

I'm on the fence on whether to keep or sell. There in great shape but rarely do I pullout my 1/2" ratchet in recent times so I'm on the fence.
 

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Got a 9989 Top box I am sorting the Tool Mobile out
 

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ALL: someone mentioned that my ratchet piece on my 1 incher is in backwards. is it? do i need to take it apart by taking the 2 Philips head screws out and turn it around and put back together? or just pop it out and turn it around. or is ok as is? sorry for being so naïve, but I've never had to or needed to repair a ratchet yet in 50 plus years of using them.
 

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i was thinking it was that kind of plug too so are you sure? by the way lubing it doesn't sound like a bad idea so can i use a few drops of TriFlow or what would you recommend after i take it apart?

by the way once i take the two Phillips head screws out is that about it for taking it apart if to just clean and lube it?

thank you for the help

Frank you just had a post and it disappeared. did you delete because you are not sure it is a plug?
 

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ALL: someone mentioned that my ratchet piece on my 1 incher is in backwards. is it? do i need to take it apart by taking the 2 Philips head screws out and turn it around and put back together? or just pop it out and turn it around. or is ok as is? sorry for being so naïve, but I've never had to or needed to repair a ratchet yet in 50 plus years of using them.

Yes it is. Jut take it apart and flip the drive square/gear. They are a super simple ratchet. That 1" drive is awesome. How many teeth does that version have? If they are just a scaled up rendition of the 1/2" it is probably pretty coarse, no?
 

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ZK: i'll take a picture after i take it apart and post it so you can see because i don't know the answer to that yet? thanks for the heads up.
 

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ZK: i'll take a picture after i take it apart and post it so you can see because i don't know the answer to that yet? thanks for the heads up.

You can just count the clicks as you ratchet it 1 full revolution. But since you will be taking it apart anyways. Just a heads up there is a spring on each side of the selector flaps. Make sure you are careful when taking it apart so the springs don't bounce off to Narnia. BTW, I like your vise background in the photo. :lol:
 
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Yes it is, as zkling stated. But for whatever reason, it isn't uncommon to see Proto ratchets with the selector on the drive side.

It think it's because some people prefer to use there index fingertip instead of there thumb in tight situations (more ergonomic) to change directions. I know I sometimes wished the lever was accessible to my index finger.

I think I may try one of mine (have multiples) backwards and see which I prefer.

I too remember receiving two old ones that were backwards but quickly switched and lubed them.
 

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I'll take a stab at the backwards ratchet question:

Setting the ratchet up with the selector on the drive side might be to prevent the ratchet from becoming trapped.
If you're removing a long bolt and there isn't much clearance, in some cases you may carelessly go too far and trap the ratchet against something. Then if you can't reach the lever to reverse it, you could be in trouble.
 

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Drivesitfar, that 1" drive lug pops right out like today's Proto equivalent. Look and you can see the spaces around the square.

No need to open the ratchet to reverse the lug on this one.

Hold it over your bench or some surface that wont get damaged and get that lug a swift smack with a rubber mallet or even the bottom of a shoe. Will pop right out. You may wish to spray around it or soak it first.
 
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Well, I got a 9989 off eBay. It was a little bit rougher than I was hoping. I guess my plan is to straighten the sheet metal as much as possible. I'll probably spray the bottoms of the drawers with rust converter and line everything with cork. I'll probably get the textured rust oleum dark green for the outside, but I could leave the exterior as is, although it's pretty rough.

Should I start a thread on the restore and ask for advice, or should I do it here?

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Nice Score!

It's still got the original decal!

Are there reproduction decals available?
 

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Bart: i really like the cork and the original patina. i saw a thread where you were thinking of painting it and this way those old plumb tools really make it shine. nice collection by the way and are they your daily users or just sitting on the bench looking cool?

All: thanks for all the tips about my inch ratchet and i think i'll leave it alone for now and maybe put a few drops of TriFlow on the moving parts and ratchet head while it sits until i need to use it.
 

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Well, I got a 9989 off eBay. It was a little bit rougher than I was hoping. I guess my plan is to straighten the sheet metal as much as possible. I'll probably spray the bottoms of the drawers with rust converter and line everything with cork. I'll probably get the textured rust oleum dark green for the outside, but I could leave the exterior as is, although it's pretty rough.

Should I start a thread on the restore and ask for advice, or should I do it here?

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Yeah, I don't know if I would touch this one. It looks decent in the pictures. If it was me I would just clean up the rust and wax it!
 

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Bart: i really like the cork and the original patina. i saw a thread where you were thinking of painting it and this way those old plumb tools really make it shine. nice collection by the way and are they your daily users or just sitting on the bench looking cool?
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I have a Hazet Assistent with all metric in it and I plan to put all SAE in this box for the rare occasion I need them. I definitely won't be afraid to use them.

Yeah, I don't know if I would touch this one. It looks decent in the pictures. If it was me I would just clean up the rust and wax it!

I agree! With all of the original crinkle paint that is still intact (along with the water-transfer decal inside the lid) I'd carefully line the compartment bottoms and leave the rest of the box alone.

I definitely plan to leave the decal intact. I wouldn't say all the crinkle paint is intact! It's a rustbucket, but I may just get it as straight as possible, make a tray and leave as is.
 

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Careful using Evaporust or something similar in trying to clean up and neutralize the rust. Even though it's biodegradable stuff it wreaked havoc in 2 seconds on my vintage SK tool box. It turned the paint from dark to light green instantly, with drip streaks and then peeled once dry. Of course I didn't first test it on the bottom or some hidden area.
 

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I hope its alright to ask this here......

I've been using Plomb tools for a lot of years, now, and have 'sort-of' collected them.

For no particular reason, I chose to collect only the post-war production Plombs, maybe cos I was born during the war, and preferred to have tools which were new within my life-time.....yes, I know, thats a bit silly, its just amusement or some such.

Which leads me to a question. Some years ago, I found a pre-war Plomb #9999 large tool chest, at our local flea market. I strongly suspect that it belonged to a circus or carnival mechanic, as it was heavily painted in 'clown colours', red, green, yellow, and blue, in a pattern vaguely reminiscent of a clown uniform.

Well, I got it paint-stripped, and refinished the drawers in original dark green, but never did get around to painting the 'case' or 'body' of the chest......so its a dormant restoration project.

I'm guessing that the pre-war #9999 large Plomb chest is a relative rarity, these days, but don't know that for any certainty.......it was rather expensive when new, so I'd imagine that relatively few mechanics would have bought them, considering that the late '30's were still 'depression' years.

What I really was looking for was a post-war #9998 large tool chest......so.....on the theory that it 'can't hurt to ask', is my pre-war #9999 chest desirable as a Plomb collectible, and is there any chance that a Plomb collector who has a really nice #9998 post-war chest might be interested in a trade?......I'd add some $ for a 'fair trade', considering that my old one still needs to have its refinishing completed.

I do have some misc pre-war and war-time wrenches, ratchets, etc, which I'd trade for nice post-war ones.......when I can gather them up, I'll do a photo or two......might anyone be interested in such trade?

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Yet more Plomb trivia......in my comment above, I mentioned possibly trading my partially restored pre-war large #9999 Plomb box, plus some $ to be fair trade, for a really extra-nice condition post-war large Plomb #9998 box.

One of the members here had posted a photo of one with its original red paint, silk-screened Plomb logo lettering, etc, which was what I'd prefer to have, just purely as a 'personal aesthetic preference'. That one had a bit of paint wear, to be sure, but not badly so, it looked generally quite nice.

I received a 'private message' offering a possible trade involving a #9989 Plomb box, the more common smaller style, which really isn't what I'd hoped to find......oh, well.....

I got curious, tho.......I've not been here very long, so I thought I'd use the 'search' feature, and, trying a search for the #9999 large Plomb box, I found only one item, my own comment above.

Am I the only one here who has one of those? Are they even less common these days than I'd imagined?

(I have to admit that I thought a search would turn up some number of nice well-preserved original, or nicely refinished ones, owned by various of the folks here)

So........I'd ask a Plomb trivia question, if I may, just from curiosity........that large box is shown in the 1936 Plonb catalogue, and also in an original 1937 catalogue I have here, yet the later style (rounded edges, like the post-war ones) appears in the 1940 catalogue.

Does anyone have 1933-'35 catalogues, or '38-'39 catalogues, which could indicate the years in which that early style large #9999 box was produced?

Is that box a relative rarity, compared to the later style?

That would seem 'plausible', given that its likely that fewer mechanics would buy a large tool chest in the depression years of the mid-'30s, compared to the relative emergence from the depression by 1938 and '39, as munitions production contracts were beginning to build up, particularly the contract production for England, and the economic conditions for mechanics improved.

It could be said, also, that the early style #9999 box was 'ugly' with its square corners, and might not have sold very well, leading to the re-design to the much nicer-looking #9998 large box.

Yes, this is just trivia......but its a teeny-tiny bit of Plomb Tool Co. history, and, well, I'm just curious.

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Carla
 

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Okay, men. I have a few more pieces and then I won't be actively pursuing plomb. Somebody needs to pick this thread up.

Here's a couple big boy wrenches:

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And some 3/8" swivel sockets:

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I should be finished tomorrow

Oh, my, the ever so desirable and uncommon Plomb Toolmobile.....that one will look really nice when finished-up.

Well done.... : )

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Carla
 

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here are a couple of 'Plomb' photos, one of large #9999 tool chest in its 'dormant phase' of restoration' , and one of a little set, which the 1940 catalogue shows as a '#5400X Challenger' set. The sockets are 7/16 to 15/16, including the 21/32, still in use, as it was the Ford model A rod nut size.

This set is dated '39, and, apparently, was only used once, going by black grime in one socket, which I cleaned. It turned up in a quantity of 'estate sale' items at our local flea market, twenty-ish years ago.

(the small wooden chest alongside the Plomb chest is the issue box for a British armourer's kit for a .303 Vickers gun, probably from the 1914-18 war.....just the box, it is missing the original tooling).

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(could someone please add the photos for me....here are the 'links')

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Here's a ratchet I just picked up from a pawn shop for 12 dollars . It's a 3/8 ratchet and has Los Angeles on the Handle
 

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here are a couple of 'Plomb' photos, one of large #9999 tool chest in its 'dormant phase' of restoration' , and one of a little set, which the 1940 catalogue shows as a '#5400X Challenger' set. The sockets are 7/16 to 15/16, including the 21/32, still in use, as it was the Ford model A rod nut size.

This set is dated '39, and, apparently, was only used once, going by black grime in one socket, which I cleaned. It turned up in a quantity of 'estate sale' items at our local flea market, twenty-ish years ago.

(the small wooden chest alongside the Plomb chest is the issue box for a British armourer's kit for a .303 Vickers gun, probably from the 1914-18 war.....just the box, it is missing the original tooling).

cheers

Carla

(could someone please add the photos for me....here are the 'links')

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www.tactical-link.com/cpix/plomb5400x.jpg

HOW MUCH?? I will take it
 

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Here are some of the misc. Plombs I've found, over the years, at our local flea market.

Some are war-time WF, most are post-war commercial production.

It may be that some 'collectors', these days, would think it a 'sacrilege' to refinish the old unplated tools in black oxide, but, well, twenty-odd years ago, they were just 'working tools', and the unplated ones were generally 'dirty' from long storage, whether or not they'd actually ever been used.

(it may well be that they have no 'collectible' value, but they still work as well as ever.....and will turn a nut or bolt just as well as will a mega-dollar fancy new Snap-on wrench......something about 'practical cost-effectiveness?)

Added on edit......I really should confess that the 'basic nucleus' of the Plomb/early Proto 'collection' of old tools I have here were my father's, left over from his old machine business, back in the 1940's to late '50's....he later got into real estate development, so the old tools were in storage, and he didn't seem to care much about saving them himself.

cheers

Carla

Photos....and, again, I can't get the photos to 'attach' here....could someone who understands computer work help?

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www.tactical-link.com/cpix/plomb1-2.jpg.
 
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