Plomb tool picture thread - show your stuff!

[Kirk T]

It is a pebble wrench and the are one of the most collectable wrenches due to their art-deco appearance. They were made in the 40s. There are 79 pebble wrenches in all. Including combos, DBEs, DOEs, and flares.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

That was quick thanks for your reply. Looks like I have a ways to go to have a set.

 

[r_olson_06]

That was quick thanks for your reply. Looks like I have a ways to go to have a set.

I spent 4 years and only 2 left to find. The combos are the easiest, followed by the flares, and then the DBEs, and finally the DOEs.

Stormking on here is the only one that I know of that has finished the set and it took over 7 years to do living in the PNW where Plomb is the most found in the USA in my opinion.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

 

[RagTopTA]

What time frame did this wrench come from? I like it, wish I had the whole set.

And so it begins... Welcome to the Plomb downward collecting spiral : ) I too am afflicted with this disease. It doesn't stop with just wrenches.... but its really a great thing to do. Hit fleas and Estate sales to find Plomb gets to be a great adventure!

Edit: Matter of fact if you look here you will see what happens...all because of one wrench.. its great!!

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7576088&postcount=5277

 

[Kirk T]

I have some other Plomb but not from the same time frame. I like the look and feel of this wrench so now to make a set[emoji16]

 

[RagTopTA]

I have some other Plomb but not from the same time frame. I like the look and feel of this wrench so now to make a set[emoji16]

Mine started with a Plomb pebble ratchet from my grandpa.

 

[r_olson_06]

I have some other Plomb but not from the same time frame. I like the look and feel of this wrench so now to make a set[emoji16]

Keep us updated on your progress. I am always up for a trade to expand my Plomb as well.
Here is the list of wrenches and sizes so you will know where your gaps are.


Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

 

[Catfishdan]

I had a pretty good plomb day at the flea. 8 Plomb Los Angeles 1/2” sockets including a rope braid, 2 3/4” drive sockets for the ratchet I found a few weeks ago, an 1120 DBE, an unmarked wf-21 ratchet and a Proto 6734 valve adjuster.

 

[r_olson_06]

I had a pretty good plomb day at the flea. 8 Plomb Los Angeles 1/2” sockets including a rope braid, 2 3/4” drive sockets for the ratchet I found a few weeks ago, an 1120 DBE, an unmarked wf-21 ratchet and a Proto 6734 valve adjuster.

And DD series. I would say that is an epic score.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

 

[Catfishdan]

And DD series. I would say that is an epic score.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

Thanks. DD 14, 13, 12, 10, 9, 8 and 7. All are marked 8A. Any idea what that’s all about?

Edit: never mind. 1928 date code. Never see them that early.

 

[r_olson_06]

Thanks. DD 14, 13, 12, 10, 9, 8 and 7. All are marked 8A. Any idea what that’s all about?

Edit: never mind. 1928 date code. Never see them that early.

I think that 28 or 29 was last year they ran the alpha character part numbers before switching to the numeric.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

 

[MR.X]

Okay, it went from rare and justifiably expensive to rare and unjustifiably insane, and, if the seller played a bait-and-switch game, possibly rigged with fake bids, to rationalize a re-listed BIN, he's ignominious on top of it.

Not to long ago you rightly warned, concerning a different non-Plomb item "if they get additional inquiries the price is definitely going to go up, not down."
After the air raid siren alert of this auction by not exactly poker faced GJ members I don't think the seller needed to rig any bids after the massive amount of views generated even before he added the correct spelling of "PLOMB". I also think it's reasonable to assume that he got some significant email offers from prospective buyers asking him to end the auction early. I'd also bet that someone( possibly from this site) just HAD to tell him what he had, and corrected him about the Plumb/ Plvmb bit ( BTW,giving him the perfect excuse to claim an error in the listing..because, well, there was an error in the listing). If I was trying to get that item for a reasonable price I'd probably be a little frustrated but I couldn't blame the seller.

 

[MR.X]

I had a pretty good plomb day at the flea. 8 Plomb Los Angeles 1/2” sockets including a rope braid, 2 3/4” drive sockets for the ratchet I found a few weeks ago, an 1120 DBE, an unmarked wf-21 ratchet and a Proto 6734 valve adjuster.

You crushed that! Awesome socket haul bro!

 

[d42jeep]

Dan,
That is a really good flea find. Congratulations.
Here is a recent pebble I received in a Plomb trade with R Olson. It cleaned up beautifully. Thanks, Roy!
-Don

 

[Kirk T]

Dan,

That is a really good flea find. Congratulations.

Here is a recent pebble I received in a Plomb trade with R Olson. It cleaned up beautifully. Thanks, Roy!

-Don

That cleaned up great! When they’re really rusty like mine is there something better than glass beading and wire brushing?

 

[d42jeep]

That cleaned up great! When they’re really rusty like mine is there something better than glass beating and wire brushing?

I’m currently a big fan of Evaporust. I would suggest staying away from bead blasting. Here is an extreme before and after.
-Don

 

[Kirk T]

I’m currently a big fan of Evaporust. I would suggest staying away from bead blasting. Here is an extreme before and after.

-Don

Thank you!

 

[r_olson_06]

Dan,
That is a really good flea find. Congratulations.
Here is a recent pebble I received in a Plomb trade with R Olson. It cleaned up beautifully. Thanks, Roy!
-Don

Damn that cleaned up nice. What is your post evaporust process? I usually can get that level of clean.


Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

 

[d42jeep]

Damn that cleaned up nice. What is your post evaporust process? I usually can get that level of clean.


Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

I just use a brass bristle hand wire brush to get the dark residue off and wipe them down with brake cleaner. If I’m going to store them I spray them with some Fluid Film that Lugz recommended and wipe off the excess.
-Don

 

[tym]

Finished repairing a Challenger board I got from Rick and UncleDave (USPS beat the **** out of it). It came with the tools pictured, and is placed next to the partially-loaded Proto board that I acquired at the same time.

I'm still working on fixing a chipboard Williams board that came with the pictures pair. The weaker chipboard fared the worst.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Looks pretty good. Box mine came in was beat up as well, but fortunately no damage.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Picked up a partial set of 3/4 stuff

 

[tym]

Looks pretty good. Box mine came in was beat up as well, but fortunately no damage.

That's good to hear. I've already won a couple of low-price auctions on the 'bay to start filling the blanks.

 

[rickhigginshtbr]

It is a pebble wrench and the are one of the most collectable wrenches due to their art-deco appearance. They were made in the 40s. There are 79 pebble wrenches in all. Including combos, DBEs, DOEs, and flares.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

How many in total, including tools other than wrenches?

 

[RubiconJK]

Has anyone ever seen in person a round handle 5467 1/2" drive hinge handle? It is listed in catalog 18A and I've been looking for a long time, but have never seen one for sale in person or online. Every 5467 I've ever seen has been the later pebble design.

 

[r_olson_06]

How many in total, including tools other than wrenches?

There is
8 breaker bars
6 ratchets
1 or 2 pickle forks
12 pyroxylin handle screwdrivers that have a pebble panel
At least 2 puller frames.

That is all I can think of.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

 

[RagTopTA]

So, this came up yesterday. After posting pics of my collection in an online group, someone messaged me wanting to buy then entire collection. How do you even price it? Any one ever do this or try to put a price on it? Or even sell your collection ?

 

[r_olson_06]

So, this came up yesterday. After posting pics of my collection in an online group, someone messaged me wanting to buy then entire collection. How do you even price it? Any one ever do this or try to put a price on it? Or even sell your collection ?

I bought SS Dave's collection for about 10 piece out of it. I would have a hard time selling mine unless I was board of it like I did with SK.

If you do decide to sell I will pay/trade primo for that 3070[emoji2]

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Throw a high number out there, see what they say. If they buy it you get to have fun collecting it all again!

 

[bmwrd0]

Has anyone ever seen in person a round handle 5467 1/2" drive hinge handle? It is listed in catalog 18A and I've been looking for a long time, but have never seen one for sale in person or online. Every 5467 I've ever seen has been the later pebble design.

I have a pre-war round handle, and I am searching for one other. And you are right, they are not common.

 

[RagTopTA]

I bought SS Dave's collection for about 10 piece out of it. I would have a hard time selling mine unless I was board of it like I did with SK.

If you do decide to sell I will pay/trade primo for that 3070[emoji2]

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

You got it!

Throw a high number out there, see what they say. If they buy it you get to have fun collecting it all again!

I threw a pretty good number out there. Waiting to see what he says. I would be pretty sad with out my collection though....

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Not to long ago you rightly warned, concerning a different non-Plomb item "if they get additional inquiries the price is definitely going to go up, not down."
After the air raid siren alert of this auction by not exactly poker faced GJ members I don't think the seller needed to rig any bids after the massive amount of views generated even before he added the correct spelling of "PLOMB". I also think it's reasonable to assume that he got some significant email offers from prospective buyers asking him to end the auction early. I'd also bet that someone( possibly from this site) just HAD to tell him what he had, and corrected him about the Plumb/ Plvmb bit ( BTW,giving him the perfect excuse to claim an error in the listing..because, well, there was an error in the listing). If I was trying to get that item for a reasonable price I'd probably be a little frustrated but I couldn't blame the seller.

I'm no eBay expert (barely ever buy, and just start using it to sell), but you can correct errors in a listing without changing the format (from an auction to a BIN), and, I thought it was impossible to change the format (from an auction to a BIN) after you have a bid. I hear you echoing me on tipping off sellers, and that may have also happened, but the quickly skyrocketing bids spoke loud and clear without that, and what he did was switch it to a BIN after that. Dirty pool, and again, against the rules, I thought.

I guess the buyer was either someone from outside of GJ, or someone who doesn't want anyone else to know they spent $275 on a tool no bigger than your thumb!

If I’m going to store them I spray them with some Fluid Film that Lugz recommended and wipe off the excess.

I threw a pretty good number out there. Waiting to see what he says.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Not to long ago you rightly warned, concerning a different non-Plomb item "if they get additional inquiries the price is definitely going to go up, not down."

After the air raid siren alert of this auction by not exactly poker faced GJ members I don't think the seller needed to rig any bids after the massive amount of views generated even before he added the correct spelling of "PLOMB". I also think it's reasonable to assume that he got some significant email offers from prospective buyers asking him to end the auction early. I'd also bet that someone( possibly from this site) just HAD to tell him what he had, and corrected him about the Plumb/ Plvmb bit ( BTW,giving him the perfect excuse to claim an error in the listing..because, well, there was an error in the listing). If I was trying to get that item for a reasonable price I'd probably be a little frustrated but I couldn't blame the seller.

Agreed! I think the offers tipped him off. I think you can change the wording in the auction but the title can’t be changed without ending the auction and I think the seller realized what he had. I use my best poker face when making deals and I don’t try to run up an item in a sellers mind for other enthusiasts. To me, ruining it for the next guy is not cool for the hobby or for them.


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[Private Lugnutz]

I'm confused. It was an auction that ran up to several hundred dollars. Then it was gone. Then it came back up as a BIN/OBO for $1,984. Then it sold for $275, which had to be an offer. Whether he got emails telling him what he had was rare, and spelled Plomb, not Plumb, etc, or not, during the auction, the high bids told him everything he needed to know: his reserve was way too low for the value of the item! Whether he got offers or not during the auction is irrelevant; it was too late, because, again, it's my understanding you can't end an auction once you have bidders - and he definitely had bidders. Rags was one of them, Rubicon another. He screwed all those bidders when he ended the auction and re-listed it as a BIN. Still not sure how he managed to do that with bids. But I think he ended up selling it for close to if not less than the high bid when it was an auction. So, unless the guy who got it for the $275 offer he accepted is the same guy who had the high bid when it was an auction, that high bidder got screwed.

 

[r_olson_06]

I'm no eBay expert (barely ever buy, and just start using it to sell), but you can correct errors in a listing without changing the format (from an auction to a BIN), and, I thought it was impossible to change the format (from an auction to a BIN) after you have a bid. I hear you echoing me on tipping off sellers, and that may have also happened, but the quickly skyrocketing bids spoke loud and clear without that, and what he did was switch it to a BIN after that. Dirty pool, and again, against the rules, I thought.

I guess the buyer was either someone from outside of GJ, or someone who doesn't want anyone else to know they spent $275 on a tool no bigger than your thumb!


[emoji106]

You can end auction at anytime it is really frowned upon. You can not edit description with bids in though including titles.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

 

[Private Lugnutz]

You can end auction at anytime it is really frowned upon. You can not edit description with bids in though including titles.

Thanks, Roy. Allowing an auction to end with active bidders if the reserve has been met is just plain wrong. And I can't believe the guy had a reserve higher than the high bid since he clearly had no idea what he really had.

BTW - I went back to look at your first screen shot of the auction. The price was $112.19 with 16 bidders in one hour after posting. I have no doubt that some collectors inadvertently ruin opportunities with un/under-informed sellers, driving up the price with quick bids, questions, and TMI, but in this case, the bids did all the talking. Looks like his eyes got way bigger than $112.16, he re-listed fort the outrageous BIN price, and then he took an offer that might've been close to the auction price had he let it run its course.

 

[Provincial]

I'm confused. It was an auction that ran up to several hundred dollars. Then it was gone. Then it came back up as a BIN/OBO for $1,984. Then it sold for $275, which had to be an offer. Whether he got emails telling him what he had was rare, and spelled Plomb, not Plumb, etc, or not, during the auction, the high bids told him everything he needed to know: his reserve was way too low for the value of the item! Whether he got offers or not during the auction is irrelevant; it was too late, because, again, it's my understanding you can't end an auction once you have bidders - and he definitely had bidders. Rags was one of them, Rubicon another. He screwed all those bidders when he ended the auction and re-listed it as a BIN. Still not sure how he managed to do that with bids. But I think he ended up selling it for close to if not less than the high bid when it was an auction. So, unless the guy who got it for the $275 offer he accepted is the same guy who had the high bid when it was an auction, that high bidder got screwed.

I don't see the Ebay "rules" amounting to much. I was the only bidder on an item, won it, paid the winning bid price plus the listed shipping cost, and then had the seller refuse to ship it. Neither Ebay or Paypal would do anything to enforce the sale because the seller refunded the money to Paypal. I could not even leave negative feedback because Ebay refused to list is as a Completed Sale. So much for Ebay auctions being a "binding contract."

 

[tym]

Thanks, Roy. Allowing an auction to end with active bidders if the reserve has been met is just plain wrong. And I can't believe the guy had a reserve higher than the high bid since he clearly had no idea what he really had.

BTW - I went back to look at your first screen shot of the auction. The price was $112.19 with 16 bidders in one hour after posting. I have no doubt that some collectors inadvertently ruin opportunities with un/under-informed sellers, driving up the price with quick bids, questions, and TMI, but in this case, the bids did all the talking. Looks like his eyes got way bigger than $112.16, he re-listed fort the outrageous BIN price, and then he took an offer that might've been close to the auction price had he let it run its course.

Or perhaps the was some shilling going on? Usually the bid price gets run up at the end.

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

Thanks, Roy. Allowing an auction to end with active bidders if the reserve has been met is just plain wrong. And I can't believe the guy had a reserve higher than the high bid since he clearly had no idea what he really had.

BTW - I went back to look at your first screen shot of the auction. The price was $112.19 with 16 bidders in one hour after posting. I have no doubt that some collectors inadvertently ruin opportunities with un/under-informed sellers, driving up the price with quick bids, questions, and TMI, but in this case, the bids did all the talking. Looks like his eyes got way bigger than $112.16, he re-listed fort the outrageous BIN price, and then he took an offer that might've been close to the auction price had he let it run its course.

I didn't bid on it or take any action at all on it but I did notice at least three iterations of the listing. The last one I saw was a BIN for about $275. After seeing it in the earlier BIN listing for close to 2k the final listing almost looked reasonable. I bought some feeler guages instead to use up a $5 electronic coupon. Ed.

 

[r_olson_06]

And, that was actually not my collection, just an accumulation of Plomb from the past year or so of setting incidental Plomb aside in a box. Random stuff, that came with other tools that I wanted. If you buy tools to complete the sets or collection you are working on, you end up with ten times as many you don't want that you have to get rid of again. That's what happens to me, anyway.

I've done that before, and will again; Twertsy bought the lot I had a year or two before that one. He also bought my Plomb and Bonney boxes if I remember right.

As soon as I can get the bottom drawer of my tool box open (stuff piled on the floor in front of it) I'm going to get out my 3/4" Plomb pebble set and 3 groove sockets and get rid of it. It's redundant to my Proto set, and I don't use it.

I think I also have the round Plomb breaker bar talked about above; If I remember right, it's in the tire well of my car, being used as a lug wrench. Funny thing, I put it there, because as a non-collector I see it as less desirable and valuable then my newer, better condition Proto ones, so I don't care if it gets beat up and rusty. I have a double box Plomb wrench in my pickup for the same reason, use it to tighten and remove the bolts from my canopy all the time. I have a fair amount of Plomb scattered in my user tools, I didn't use to differentiate it from Proto, just used it. As I get a better condition Proto one, the Plomb gets thrown in the disposal box.

That is impressive. That lot of plombs was bigger than my active collection after 2 years.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

 

[MR.X]

I'm confused. It was an auction that ran up to several hundred dollars. Then it was gone. Then it came back up as a BIN/OBO for $1,984. Then it sold for $275, which had to be an offer. Whether he got emails telling him what he had was rare, and spelled Plomb, not Plumb, etc, or not, during the auction, the high bids told him everything he needed to know: his reserve was way too low for the value of the item! Whether he got offers or not during the auction is irrelevant; it was too late, because, again,

Maybe it's "irrelevant" to whether or not someone is allowed to do that, or irrelevant to whether or not you think someone got screwed but it's not irrelevant. It was done and the seller doesn't owe some tool collector here anything. Whether on ebay or at a live auction, anyone talking up an item you plan on bidding on is bad news. Also, anyone from the GJ who wanted that item ( if the auction had run it's course) would have had to outbid the guy who ended up getting the item anyway. If they were willing to do that and didn't get the opportunity, than I agree that's messed up, but on top of that it means the seller screwed HIMSELF.