Proto Tools Picture Thread - Post Yours!

[Mintgrun]

I have some wood handled R&P screwdrivers. They're not made by Proto though.

 

[bmwrd0]

Reed and Prince made both types of screws along with developing a drive system, but I don't think that drive bit is an RP. As Mints drawing shows, the tip would be very pointed. They aren't designed to cam out, unlike a Philips, so the angles are very sharp.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

...but I don't think that drive bit is an RP. As Mints drawing shows, the tip would be very pointed.

Hmm. I dunno. It could be worn. What else would an "R & P" marking be and in the same exact location on the socket as the "Phillips" marking?

 

[bmwrd0]

I went back and checked the photos, and it still doesn't look worn to me, at least not in that manner. But, I had assumed* that all of them said Phillips #x, so I am not sure at this point. It's not like I have never been wrong before anyhow.

*and we all know what that word means.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

It may be misstamped. Seems to work on phillips.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Yeah that's the kicker for me it having the "R&P" instead of the "PHILLIPS" and in the same spot.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

None of them are worn, in fact they appear to have seen little or no use.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It may be misstamped. Seems to work on phillips.

That's not impossible and in some cases not that unusual. People have probably interchanged Phillips and Frearson and vice versa cursing a little without even knowing it. It won't be a tight connection on all surfaces. Far from ideal, but not completely inadequate and not impossible in all circumstances. The difference is not like the difference between Torx or even another cruciform type like Posidrive and Phillips. Not to dismiss the distinction, but just to say, again, the fact that it will turn a Phillips screw head isn't enough to eliminate it being Reed & Prince. Besides, that would be a very odd mistake, and one that would still certainly mean they were also making Reed & Prince type bits to have that die. Which is what's remarkable. As 3bay alluded to, I'm not sure that was known before.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I'm not suggesting they're interchangeable. Don't get me wrong. And there are drivers and screws that will not fit each other and vice versa at all. And I don't mean to be arguing so strenuously. I just think that marking is too potent to dismiss too quickly or easily.

Do you have access to any R&P #1 screws? That's how it's marked. If it doesn't fit and turn a Frearson #1, I'll join the doubting thomases, Beemers, and Otgs.

 

[bmwrd0]

To throw a little gasoline on the fire, so to speak, here is a vintage R&P

You can see how sharp the edges and angles are.

And who made it, you might ask?

Well, the only marking is Made In USA in the same place and script that Plomb used. But, Plomb isn't written anywhere, nor is there a part number.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Frearson patent

 

[Provincial]

In the real world of (light, less than 12,000 pounds gross takeoff weight) aircraft maintenance, Phillips and Reed & Prince screws are encountered somewhat randomly. At times, factory-installed R&P screws have been replaced by Phillips screws in the field. One panel may have both types! A Phillips bit will turn a R&P screw if you press in hard enough, and the screw isn't over-torqued or bound with corrosion.

 

[c1504]

That stubby sure is cool BMW!

 

[d42jeep]

It doesn’t seem right that a cheater bar should be used on a 3/8” drive breaker bar but it is sure enough bent. I bent it back a little after taking the pictures. I didn’t want to snap it by going overboard.
-Don

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Ouch! Someone was having a bad day.

 

[d42jeep]

Here are two WF marked Craftsman screwdrivers. The shorter one is marked Reed Prince and the longer one is a #2 Phillips.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I was a little surprised to discover that one of these Proto break-down any-angle eggbeaters hasn't been posted on the thread yet. Unless it has and it was posted as something other than "drill", "hand drill", "eggbeater," or "egg beater". I know that RagTopTA has a blue one, because it made a cameo/photobomb appearance in the Bonney thread. jvlyons posted a red one with a NOS box in an older thread back in 2011. And Straightgrain says he has two, but didn't post any photos.

No bits in the handle. Pivots in one plane with that little thumbscrew and if you pull that release down, the head also pivots in the other plane.

Flea market find this morning.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The patent (2,310,759) dates to 1943, and according to DATAMP, JO Mfg was the manufacturer. That may be so, but the patentee was Clawson and it was not assigned to anyone, so I suspect they may have been made by multiple mfgrs under license to Clawson.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Also snagged this 24 oz. (No. 324-P) ball-pein hammer. Weighs in at 1 lb. 14.3 ozs with the original, hexagonal handle. A few minor pall marks on each cheek, but this hammer was not abused and is in impressive condition.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Finally, (did I forget to say it was a Proto day?!), I also found this partial No. 9200C nut driver set in original Flying Lady logo pouch. It's too bad there were only two of the nut drivers remaining, but I would've bought it empty.

 

[d42jeep]

Finally, (did I forget to say it was a Proto day?!), I also found this partial No. 9200C nut driver set in original Flying Lady logo pouch. It's too bad there were only two of the nut drivers remaining, but I would've bought it empty.

I went through and sorted out my Proto tools today. I’m sure that I have some of your missing nutdrivers.
While going through the screwdrivers, I found candidates for another Phillips vs Reed Prince comparison.
-Don

 

[bmwrd0]

Don, what is the part # of the top one, the RP one?

Since Lugz is showing drills, I figured we needed some more:

A Proto, a P&C, and a JOline, who I think developed these.

But, seeing as this could be considered the woodworking line of Proto, here is the brace I picked up today, along with a plane:

Sorry about cutting it off like that, didn't realize that happened. But, in any case, they are obviously Stanley made and Proto marked, from a much later period than Stanleys best. But, they work perfectly and are great collector's items.

Here is a close-up of the label:

 

[d42jeep]

It looks to be a 9663.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

went through and sorted out my Proto tools today. I’m sure that I have some of your missing nutdrivers.

I was probably going to flip it, Don. If you think it being complete will command that much of a better price, send them and I'll split the profit 50/50 with you!

and a JOline, who I think developed these.

That would fit with DATAMP thinking they were the sole mfgrs. And JO and Plomb Empire had a very close relationship.

 

[d42jeep]

I was probably going to flip it, Don. If you think it being complete will command that much of a better price, send them and I'll split the profit 50/50 with you!

I can’t send them for around a month. We are headed back to the mountains first thing tomorrow to see how things look. We won’t be in an airplane like the Pres. & the Gov. If you can wait that’s fine, otherwise go ahead and flip.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

They're at the end of long backlog of other things. No rush. A "joint venture" sounds fun. Haha.

 

[d42jeep]

That sounds good to me. Let me know what sizes are missing. Here are some further results of my Proto organization efforts. The first picture is the Mfg. tools and the second is Proto Professional.
-Don

 

[consti2tion]

That proto nut driver pouch is mint Pvt Lugnutz! I need some good finds like that.

d42, this is a brilliant idea have drawers dedicated to brands

I have almost filled this 4700c set. Just a couple more sockets. I’m not sure how it’s supposed to be organized though.

 

[RTM]

I have almost filled this 4700c set. Just a couple more sockets. I’m not sure how it’s supposed to be organized though.

you are obviously doing it wrong. None of the parts go in the box, they are supposed to be left out.

Proto Tools : Catalog 6020 : Proto Tool Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

92 p., illus., 27.2 cm, trade catalog

archive.org

 

[Lesserstore]

I found this pair of model 226 needle nose pliers a while back and they are kind of odd. First the handles have a rough finish on them, almost like if they had rubber grips on them, but they don't have a suffix indicating that they should. Secondly they have this raised "X" on the underside of one of the handles, and I don't know what it could be at all (if it means anything at all.).

 

[twertsy]

Per my trolling post, yes I was able to purchase that roto mat topper from the seller on craigslist. I called the day someone posted it in this thread but the seller wouldn't sell it to me right away. He said another buyer was interested in it plus a bunch of gas pumps and other petrolina he was selling. I kept in contact with him throught the week. Finally wednesday he said he would sell it to me! Super cool dude. He took the conduit tube off it to ship it and packaged it up really nice and tight. I offered to pay $75 plus shipping so it came to about $115. I am going to put a bulb in it and put it on my shelf next to my proto boxes! Super cool piece. Now I just need to find a roto mat It measures 10" across and 6" tall. I put a 6" extension inside it just to show perspective. It is really dusty and the metal lids have some slight surface rust I will clean up.

Huh, looks like you could use an LA era rotamat with tools for that……..

 

[consti2tion]

you are obviously doing it wrong. None of the parts go in the box, they are supposed to be left out.

Proto Tools : Catalog 6020 : Proto Tool Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

92 p., illus., 27.2 cm, trade catalog

archive.org

Oh you are absolutely right, they just go on the workbench and set the box behind it!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Huh, looks like you could use an LA era rotamat with tools for that……..

Oh you have no clue....if you were not on the wrong side of the continent I would be making a run at that thing

 

[stormking]

Cross posting so to be a part of this thread.
Layla by https://www.flickr.com/photos/119819727@N06/, on Flickr

 

[Smokeshow69]

Cross posting so to be a part of this thread.
Layla by https://www.flickr.com/photos/119819727@N06/, on Flickr

Hey what the heck? did you buy this of craigslist earlier this year in our neck of the woods ? Very nice box!

 

[bmwrd0]

Oooof... Those are purty. Yours?

 

[c1504]

Got this Plion tie bar from an ebay seller today. It was hard to pass up for less than $10 shipped. After a lot of research I can’t find anything out about it except that they must have made a lot of them. There are a a ton of pictures of them online but no one seems to know anything. Does anyone have any ideas about the history of these things? Was it something Proto gave to employees? Was it something given out by dealers? Even if I never find out anything it is still a fun piece of Proto history

 

[LNKMK8]

Not mine but a good deal for someone on this Proto box.. Located in Independence, MO (Kansas City)

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[consti2tion]

Not mine but a good deal for someone on this Proto box.. Located in Independence, MO (Kansas City)

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If it were closer I would be picking it up for sure!

 

[c1504]

This Plomb pebble 3061 grind off stamped Proto Los Angeles came in the mail from Twertsy today