ratchet ****

[Holt]

MOPARHOUND! i dont know why but im really liking you Walden Ratchet. How does it work, if its vintage look like with the quick reverse it was ahead of it time.

 

[Uncle Buck]

10,256 views, as of this post...............!!!!!!!!

Strange socket sets as promised.........but, sorry............it's late.............only 1 pic for now..............more tomorrow.

Something called "Open End Ratchet Wrenches".........????

Haven't seen them in any tool catalogs.

Good luck finding a set today. Those were sold in the 40's or 50's and the only reference I have ever seen to them was an old ad in a vintage Popular mechanics magazine from the day. the TAC stood for something like Tube Appliance Corporation, or something strange like that.

I have most of a set of those. If you open this link http://www.harryepstein.com/basementdeals.htm and scroll down the page to "Ratcheting Crowfeet" you will see what the box marked "TAC" once contained.

So how much will you need for the box?

BTW: Here is my set of them, they are up in the top right corner of the pic.

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

Good luck finding a set today. Those were sold in the 40's or 50's and the only reference I have ever seen to them was an old ad in a vintage Popular mechanics magazine from the day. the TAC stood for something like Tube Appliance Corporation, or something strange like that.

I have most of a set of those. If you open this link http://www.harryepstein.com/basementdeals.htm and scroll down the page to "Ratcheting Crowfeet" you will see what the box marked "TAC" once contained.

You're on the right track............I'm impressed............but these will also turn any 3/8" and 1/2" sockets.............and more..............more pic's to come.........

 

[Uncle Buck]

Aside from a pic in their old ad, those are the first I have ever laid eyes on. Where on earth did you find them? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

Aside from a pic in their old ad, those are the first I have ever laid eyes on. Where on earth did you find them? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Impulse buy on eBay 8 years ago, IIRC.

Closeup of the smaller ratchet head..............

NO.500 PATS.PEND.
TUBING APPLIANCE CO.INC.L.A.CAL.
TAC
MADE IN U.S.A.

Socket Set logo closeup..........

A more accurate term might be "Flare Nut Ratcheting Sockets" ? They allow the line to pass through like the low clearance Snap-On sets using different socket sizes. These crows feet style ratchets are not reversible. Much like the prevalent female style ratchets of their day, you have to flip them over to change direction. The ratchet heads aren't very stout, I would use a regular line/flare nut wrench to break the fitting loose.

The smaller set has a 1/4" drive breaker bar stamped Williams, and has inserts for ratcheting 3/8" and 1/2" drive sockets. The larger set has a TAS stamped 3/8" drive breaker bar, but only a 1/2" drive insert.

Think I'll classify one as a 1/2" ratchet and the other as a 3/8" drive ratchet............

('HOUND's running ratchet total, this thread: 219 1/2" Drives, 137 3/8" Drives, 48 1/4" Drives, 404 Overall/All Sizes. Number needed to surpass overall/all sizes ratchet total of 500: 97. )

 

[zuspiel]

Wow, these things are neat. Great "impulse buy"...

 

[bchee]

that is pretty cool. Never seen something like that

 

[Uncle Buck]

The pile I referenced in my box pictured above, operate just exactly the same as this one.

I am surprised I almost remembered the correct name didn't I !

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

10,946 views now............................

Started this march about 45 days ago, October 27, post #55........still going...........

Time to count the 3/4 drives................

Left to Right............

1) Blackhawk (Antique, female drive, no reversing lever, turn ratchet over to change direction.... reminds of the 1920's Snap-On 1/2" drive ratchets, only bigger)
2) Armstrong (New, has the Proto style head)
3) S-K
4) Snap-On (the bar on it seems to be 4 feet long)
5) Craftsman (New, has that Snap-On style head like some of the Craftsman ratchets from the 40s/50s, but with quick release)
6) Mac (ratchet head attachment, put it on the 3/4" drive Craftsman breaker bar to show it off)
7) Plomb (in the bottom pic, forgot about it while taking the 3/4" drive group shot, that is a vintage Plomb set, with only the upper right hand 5 sockets in the photo being Proto)

Up next............some 1" drive stuff............

('HOUND's running ratchet total, this thread: 7 3/4" Drives, 219 1/2" Drives, 137 3/8" Drives, 48 1/4" Drives, 411 Overall/All Sizes. Number needed to surpass overall/all sizes ratchet total of 500: 90. )

 

[buening]

I need to get a pic of the one you likely don't have. It's an old Bonney ratchet from my grandfather, who was a Chrysler mechanic. They gave service awards with gold-like plated tools, most of which were Bonney tools.

 

[krusty the clown]

1) Blackhawk (Antique, female drive, no reversing lever, turn ratchet over to change direction.... reminds of the 1920's Snap-On 1/2" drive ratchets, only bigger)

there is a really good reason they look alike

 

[wrenchr]

10,946 views now............................

Started this march about 45 days ago, October 27, post #55........still going...........

Time to count the 3/4 drives................

Left to Right............

1) Blackhawk (Antique, female drive, no reversing lever, turn ratchet over to change direction.... reminds of the 1920's Snap-On 1/2" drive ratchets, only bigger)
2) Armstrong (New, has the Proto style head)
3) S-K
4) Snap-On (the bar on it seems to be 4 feet long)
5) Craftsman (New, has that Snap-On style head like some of the Craftsman ratchets from the 40s/50s, but with quick release)
6) Mac (ratchet head attachment, put it on the 3/4" drive Craftsman breaker bar to show it off)
7) Plomb (in the bottom pic, forgot about it while taking the 3/4" drive group shot, that is a vintage Plumb set, with only the upper right hand 5 sockets in the photo being Proto)

Up next............some 1" drive stuff............

('HOUND's running ratchet total, this thread: 7 3/4" Drives, 219 1/2" Drives, 137 3/8" Drives, 48 1/4" Drives, 411 Overall/All Sizes. Number needed to surpass overall/all sizes ratchet total of 500: 90. )

Moparhound,
I do not know about your math but my math shows only 89 are needed to reach 500

 

[krusty the clown]

Moparhound,
I do not know about your math but my math shows only 89 are needed to reach 500

surpass

 

[wrenchr]

surpass

Oops............. I'm sofa king we todd did!!!

 

[buening]

Alright, I'll add my very small collection. All but the Snap On ratchets were from my late grandfather. I'll start with the 1/2" drives:

From left to right
1. Snap On S715
2. Snap On SL715
3. Snap On S832
4. Craftsman Pro
5. Craftsman raised panel
6. S-K 41653 abused breaker
7. Un-marked speeder
8. Un-marked T-bar


For my 3/8" drives:

From left to right (from bottom to top in close-up view):

1. Snap On GF720
2. Snap On GF720A
3. Snap On F80
4. Husky 22800
5. Craftsman raised panel
6. Craftsman - EE7 stanley/taiwan ****
7. Bonney T-802K (Chrysler Motors Master Mechanic Award engraved)
8. Indestro Super No 2775
9. Indestro speed but missing handle

And for my seriously lacking 1/4" set:

From left to right:

1. Indestro breaker bar
2. Un-marked fine tooth
3. Giller (military?) T-bar
4. Husky
5. Plomb WF7
6. Craftsman-Stanley/taiwan

 

[lennoxlennox]

quick question from a newbie....

I have this rachet... can anyone tell me what year it is? I can also buy another one like it.... what do you think?

Basically it's a 5/8 drive ratchet with original drive lug. The ratchet is 18 inches long, and has the marking OKD 11 stamped into the head. I'm lead to believe it's from the 1920's... anyone know?

 

[snapmom]

Its about 25-27. A early 5/8 dr. the late 20s would have a diff. hanger hole.

 

[Elroy]

7. Bonney T-802K (Chrysler Motors Master Mechanic Award engraved)

Now that is neat. Where did that come from ?? Whip that baby out at the Drag Strip to spin some fresh plugs in your HEMI. Ya Baby!

 

[buening]

My grandfather was a mechanic for 30 some years at Chrysler. Here are more pics of the tools I inherited when he passed away. Many of the brands I haven't heard of, still researching them all! Each tool set came in it's own roll pouch. Here is a few samples (partial sets, for clarity)

 

[Elroy]

Man those Chrysler tools are Bad ***. THANK YOU for posting the additional pictures.

 

[lennoxlennox]

Its about 25-27. A early 5/8 dr. the late 20s would have a diff. hanger hole.

What do you mean 25-27? What year do you think it is and should i buy another one?

 

[Uncle Buck]

Ya gotta love those line wrenches. (at least I do!)

 

[krusty the clown]

What do you mean 25-27? What year do you think it is and should i buy another one?

1925 to 1927..........should you buy another? short answer yes i'm looking for one as well.

 

[lennoxlennox]

1925 to 1927..........should you buy another? short answer yes i'm looking for one as well.

Thanks Crusty... what are these worth...any idea?

 

[buening]

One of these days I'll drag all of them out and snap some more pics. I ended up getting half his tools stash, as other family members picked it over as well. They are definitely neat, although I wish the gold finish was in better shape.

Yeah the Mustang's (67 and 68 I believe) came with 4-piston kelsey-hayes calipers. It seems the tool division had bought Bonney, which explains why most of the other Chrysler tools I have are Bonney brand...like the ratchet http://alloy-artifacts.com/totw_locrite_flare_box_wrench.html

 

[elect]

would love to see all the pics! I didn't know Kelsey-Hayes bought all the tool brands,I worked at a Kelsey-Hayes plant as a line mechanic until it closed.

 

[buening]

I didn't know they had tools either, and really didn't notice that these line wrenches had that on them until I snapped the pics tonight

 

[krusty the clown]

Thanks Crusty... what are these worth...any idea?

i would watch ebay to see what they go for......that is what seems to set market value. chad or snapmom could probably give you a better answer.

 

[chad s]

i would watch ebay to see what they go for......that is what seems to set market value. chad or snapmom could probably give you a better answer.

They generally go for $30-40.

 

[krusty the clown]

They generally go for $30-40.

thats what i thought but as soon as i post that somebody will bid $150 on one

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

Well, we sank to page 5..........but the views are up to 11,579........................marching on................

Dug up a couple of ratchets before we get to the 1" drive stuff...................

Left to right:

Snap-On 9/32" drive set (Vintage 1939, some pieces date '37 and '38, but most '39, have decent shine for their age)

Snap-On 1/4" drive ratcheting nut driver (Has forward, reverse, and a "locked" postition on the selector. Don't know if the shaft interchanges to allow it to become a ratcheting screwdriver???)

Guess I'll create a new category for the 9/32" drive socket set, and add 1 to the 1/4" ratchets...................

('HOUND's running ratchet total, this thread: 7 3/4" Drives, 219 1/2" Drives, 137 3/8" Drives, 1 9/32" Drive, 49 1/4" Drives, 413 Overall/All Sizes. Number needed to surpass overall/all sizes ratchet total of 500: 88. )

 

[elect]

Mopar,that shaft does in fact interchange with with three different length bit holders and several dedicated shafts for slotted,phillips and torx.

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

11,913 views and growing............ ................................... continuing the count .....................

Now for the 1" drive stuff...................

1/4" Drive Snap-On ratchet being shown to give a sense of scale, that is a Proto 3/4" to 1" adaptor beside it.

Left to right:

1) Lowell Wrench Co., Worcester MA No. 3 (Female drive, guessing it is from the 30's??? Has a later model Proto male plug in it, don't know what the adjustment thingy is in the end of the handle??? Looks like the handle was made anticipating a cheater pipe, or some type of handle was meant to be used???)

2) Snap-On L73C Ratchet Head (bought the handle for it, I thought, but it was too small in diameter)

3) Snap-On L673 Ratchet Head Adaptor (being shown with a L112E Snap-On 3/4" Drive breaker bar head with a Snap-On GLA72A 3/4" to 1" adaptor, the breaker bar handle is a seemingly 4 foot long Snap-On L72RL)

Sadly , in a moment of weakness, I traded my 1" drive Made In U.S.A. socket set to a relative who needed it for his farm equipment. Working on cars I hadn't used any of them, so it made sense at the time. He has been glad to have it, using it on several occasions. Think I may have a stray 1" drive impact socket or 2 laying around.

Now, up next, onto the new arrivals!!! All this ratchet picture taking stoked the old dormant TOOLHOUND! fire.........................

('HOUND's running ratchet total, this thread: 3 1" Drives, 7 3/4" Drives, 219 1/2" Drives, 137 3/8" Drives, 1 9/32" Drive, 49 1/4" Drives, 416 Overall/All Sizes. Number needed to surpass overall/all sizes ratchet total of 500: 85. )

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

Overlooked this sweet Snap-On Racing red hard handled 1/4" drive with the crossed checkered flags...............will end up subtracting it back off (along with some other ratchets in the classifieds that have departed since this thread began)............little ratchet will be headed to Hawaii to a new home shortly:

Pictures of several new arrival ratchet lots have been taken ...........just a matter of processing the pictures and getting the text together for the posts......

('HOUND's running ratchet total, this thread: 3 1" Drives, 7 3/4" Drives, 219 1/2" Drives, 137 3/8" Drives, 1 9/32" Drive, 50 1/4" Drives, 417 Overall/All Sizes. Number needed to surpass overall/all sizes ratchet total of 500: 84. )

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

12,569 views...........the beat goes on................

7 1/2" drive ratchets to kick off the 1/2" drive new arrivals postings............................

From left to right:

1) Hornet # 84900 (Biggest thickest round head ratchet I'd ever seen, until the Bonney in the same pic showed up, wonder if they came from the same vendor??)
2) Herbrand # S-7
3) Bonney # A702K
4) Bonney # 4098 (Yes, I too have been experimenting with DaveBlank's Permatex Ultra-Slick )
5) New Britain # NS40 (This thing is built like a tank! Weighs a ton! I think it has to be registered in some states as a weapon!)
6) Walden # 1150 (This, among a few others, thanks goes to Wrenchr )
7) Indestro Select # 6470

Up next, some more of the 1/2" drive new arrivals .................the 1/4" drive Snap-On Racing ratchet has left the building for sunny Hawaii, will subtract it off the 1/4" drive total........................

('HOUND's running ratchet total, this thread: 3 1" Drives, 7 3/4" Drives, 226 1/2" Drives, 137 3/8" Drives, 1 9/32" Drive, 49 1/4" Drives, 423 Overall/All Sizes. Number needed to surpass overall/all sizes ratchet total of 500: 78. )

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

12,700 views...............woo hoo...............

7 more 1/2" drive arrivals to add to the count................

From left to right:

1) Indestro Super # 3201
2) Speedmaster # 84-4860
3) P&C # 6211
4) Craftsman # 44974 (The old version of the long handled flex head ratchet, like the ball detent to help the head from flopping around so bad. Thanks to justinmc on this one!)
5) New Britain # NS40 (Yes, yet another of the 1 ton examples of indestructible vintageness)
6) Craftsman (female drive, nice example, has the "circle H", no number on it though)
7) Mustang # MS 41 (thanks to wrenchr)

Up next, even more 1/2" drive new arrivals..........................

We bid fond farewell to 4 of the NEW 1/2" drives traded away through the board classifieds (some still available).........2 long handle Eascos, a green handled S-K, and a Craftman Professional Polished...................adjusting totals accordingly..............net increase of 3

('HOUND's running ratchet total, this thread: 3 1" Drives, 7 3/4" Drives, 229 1/2" Drives, 137 3/8" Drives, 1 9/32" Drive, 49 1/4" Drives, 426 Overall/All Sizes. Number needed to surpass overall/all sizes ratchet total of 500: 75.

 

[bchee]

when this is all done, how about one huge pict with ALL the ratchets on display?

 

[Frank Elson]

My favourite ratchet. Gedore 1/2inch push-through.
It's easily 30 years old and still the one I reach for before any other.

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

when this is all done, how about one huge pict with ALL the ratchets on display?

Wish I could, if it were practical. Unfortunately, dragging them all back out from the various boxes would be too time consuming. Do hope to get all the pic's together for one post, or maybe one thread by itself.

 

[MOPARHOUND!]

13,390 views...............woo hoo...............smokin' 'em in cyberspace.......

7 more 1/2" drive new arrivals to add to the count................:

From left to right:

1) Keystone # M1555 (Short handled female drive)
2) Walden # 219 (Short handled female drive)
3) Duro # 679D (One of those cool 1/2" female drives, with a reversing lever )
4) Craftsman # J-S 11-44 (Has the "Circle H" logo, female drive, good looking specimen)
5) Billings # S-1410
6) Bog Company (No #, female drive, check out the handy breaker bar female end opposite the ratcheting end, smart and practical engineering )
7) Packer Auto (No #, female driver, has a "RAY" logo on it)

Up next, even more 1/2" drive new arrivals..........................

The quest for 500 ratchets continues..........

('HOUND's running ratchet total, this thread: 3 1" Drives, 7 3/4" Drives, 236 1/2" Drives, 137 3/8" Drives, 1 9/32" Drive, 49 1/4" Drives, 433 Overall/All Sizes. Number needed to surpass overall/all sizes ratchet total of 500: 68.