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Did the yard art survive the cleanup?

Steve AKA 71MKIV



Absolutely Steve. The Terraplane will still be there long after I'm gone! This coming spring/summer I'll be reworking the landscaping on the west side of the shop and the area around the Terraplane. It's mighty shady there so I'm looking for shade loving plants, ie ferns, hosta etc. Finally getting to it!

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I'm glad to see your new projects.
I think I posted in the thread when I caught up a while back but I wanted to say thank you, I now clock all my fasteners.
 

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Thomas You really get those teardowns and remodels done quickly!! As you know we torn down our old house last December - thought that we would be in by now.
:eek:oks like at least another month.?! Still thinking about the garage floor surface??
Have a great 2020

Bruce
 

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well, ima dummy..... ha ha sorry, I forgot you had already documented the demo of the original Johnson house, and I can certainly understand, after being a 1 story, jacked up, and made into a 2-story (see, I do remember that part....), that it was a little *wonky*.... any way, congrats on the new acquisitions, and that house fooled me, how similar it was to the old place !!!
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Porcelain Tile Garage Floor

Thomas You really get those teardowns and remodels done quickly!! As you know we torn down our old house last December - thought that we would be in by now.
:eek:oks like at least another month.?! Still thinking about the garage floor surface??
Have a great 2020

Bruce

Thanks Bruce, this is how I finished my garage floor at our house.



I'd always planned using porcelain tile, so all the various doors were installed knowing that the floor height would eventually be about a 1/4" higher than the bare concrete. Here we're laying out spacing to get a feel for any pattern plus to see how we'd start the layout.



After it was emptied out, it was thoroughly cleaned with Dawn dish washing soap and a stiff bristle brush to clean any oil or grease spots.



Then using my electric power washer...



... it was rinsed clean using hot water from the sink faucet. A couple of box fans aided drying the floor.



Any place we saw a crack on the floor this membrane material...




... was applied over the crack. That would serve as a "bridge" across the crack if it should get any bigger.



There weren't many cracks and it's doubtful we had to do this since they were small and tight, but I decided it couldn't hurt. It would insure that if the cracks did open up more under the tile, the membrane would bridge the crack and not transfer the crack to the tile.

It is highly recommended to wait at least 1 year before tiling to see where cracks might develop so they can be dealt with. My concrete had been installed over 3 years ago and was very stable.



This is the mortar we used.



Then it was a matter of just starting to lay the tile after a reference line was snapped on the floor.



I used 12" X 18" (30cm X 46cm) off-white tiles that had a slight color variation going through them. The plywood seen on the floor you might remember...



... is the covering to my material lift, elevator shaft to the basement. Note the hoist above it suspended from the ceiling.



Centered on each overhead door...



...I used these darker contrasting tiles.









The floor was very flat that just had a gradual slope to center floor drain.



This is how the floor slope near the drain was managed. The slotted metal cover was cleaned up...



... and then raised about 3/8". To raise it, some JB Weld was fashioned as a spacer around the outside edge, under the cover and longer stainless steel screws were used. They were Philips headed screws so no tremendous need to clock them. :bounce:

Once the tile was all laid, it was grouted, then cleaned...





...and 4" (10cm) vinyl base trim installed all around, even in the storage closets which were tiled as well.









I personally think having the floor tiled really finishes off the appearance of the garage. It conveys a feeling of completeness. An added bonus is porcelain is easy to keep clean and is extremely durable. It can easily hold up to having floor jacks and jack stands placed on it. It's tough stuff! Much more durable and long lasting than just about any epoxy paint material.

For more information there are several threads about porcelain garage floors in the "Flooring" section of Garage Journal. They are worth a look. More is coming here, please check back. Thanks everyone.

Thomas
 

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The tile floor looks great.
It's nice how much room you have around the cars too to either work on the cars or display them in a nice setting without bumping into them.
 

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A belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Tom & Chris! I've been following this thread for many, many years, and can honestly say it's the best thread on the net! I've learned a tremendous amount from Tom's detailed and well written posts. I hope some day to drop by to meet you guys in person. I'm eagerly looking forward to the next ten+ years from the COTU...

Best Regards from a fellow 'screw clocker',
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But, I’m not buying that there will be a test at this point.....

Just keep poking the bear with a stick huh Greg?! :D

well, ima dummy.....


.........James (flunked the test, in advance) Jensen
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I can see how you got them mixed up James, they are somewhat similar. Since you've now pre-flunked the test, there's no pressure anymore, right? :)

The tile floor looks great.
It's nice how much room you have around the cars too to either work on the cars or display them in a nice setting without bumping into them.

Since the house was a clean sheet design I wanted a generous sized garage. I was limited to a 2 car opening because of trees, but there is a lot of interior space there. It's just a tick under 1,200 sq ft (111 sq m).

.......

I hope some day to drop by to meet you guys in person. I'm eagerly looking forward to the next ten+ years from the COTU...

Best Regards from a fellow 'screw clocker',
John

I hope you can stop by sometime John. From one Impala owner to another!

Did you use epoxy grout?

Thanks for the question and interest 1949 caddyman. No epoxy right or wrong, my feeling is epoxy grout can get away from you if you're not careful. If you're not finished and it starts drying on you, you've got a tiger by the tail cleaning it all up. For this application I didn't see the need. This is what was used...





...and it should work just fine for what I'm doing. I read every thread I could find on porcelain garage floors and took cues from folks who have done this. Dakota00 has a very informative thread on the subject:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212509

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Wow! New properties, new home projects, new shop projects! You have indeed been busy.

If you only knew.........!!

There's a reason I haven't been on here in a while. :eek: There are several more projects done that I have yet to post and that's just my stuff. I've been helping several friends with their own work that will never see the light of day here. It's all good. I'm truly enjoying being retired and just tweaking and messin' around! :thumbup:

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Pallet Fork/Loader Bucket Mobile Base

To follow up on my pallet fork mobile base. The pallet fork consists of 3 basic parts,

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The base frame seen above and back frame which attaches to it, seen below.

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Here the black back frame can be seen along with the 2 individual forks. These parts are what make up the pallet fork assembly.

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Together as a unit it's very heavy. I fabricated a mobile base for it modifying a design I had seen...

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...that would make moving and installing the forks or bucket much easier. The mobile base consists of 2 rectangular tubes cut on an angle that the forks slide into.

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Those angled tubes were joined together on top by an angle iron frame seen above. Simple enough. Powder coating was required of course...

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...and Blickle Casters with stop lock brakes installed on the bottom.

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To install the forks, the bucket needs to be removed from the loader first. Maneuver the mobile base...

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...under the bucket and...

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... then set the bucket on the angle iron frame. After that, detach the bucket from the loader. Once removed the bucket can now be moved around sitting on top of the mobile base. Next, to install the pallet forks...

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...turn the whole outfit around and back the pallet fork unit up to the loader.

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The forks use the same attachment points on the loader as the bucket. With the forks installed on the loader, simple roll the mobile base with the bucket away and I'm all set to go. Just reverse the process to re-install the bucket. Using the mobile base there's no lifting of components any more either to install or store while not in use. It's so simple, even a retired airline pilot can do it!! ;)

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Thomas, why don't you clock Philips type screws?

I have been trying to emulate your attention to detail. As a result I do clock Philips or Pozidrive screws because I hadn't realised that you don't!

Not so sure about the tiled floor. One of my jobs each morning it to sweep our tiled kitchen floor before breakfast. I find the way little bits hide in the grout lines very frustrating and I am afraid you may as well.

Keep up the good work.
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Nice work on the cart! I used Blickle casters on my roll around welding table because I had seen you use them on your table. I'm going to start on a mobile bench grinder stand soon and will definitely be using them on it. Thanks for letting us tag along on your projects!
 

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Thomas, the tile floor looks fantastic. Once again your attention to detail shows in the results. So many projects, you’ve been a very busy guy.

Well done.

Bob
 
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That is a great set up for storing and installing your bucket and forks.
Was that storage cart on your "bucket list"?:thumbup:

Vince

You've been saving that one for a looooonnnng time haven't you Vince??!! :D I bet there was a collective groan heard all over the forum when everyone read that one.

Thomas, why don't you clock Philips type screws?

I have been trying to emulate your attention to detail. As a result I do clock Philips or Pozidrive screws because I hadn't realised that you don't!

Not so sure about the tiled floor. One of my jobs each morning it to sweep our tiled kitchen floor before breakfast. I find the way little bits hide in the grout lines very frustrating and I am afraid you may as well.

Keep up the good work.
David

David I just knew that statement was going to get me in trouble the second I typed it! Just knew it! For me to say I don't clock Philips screws isn't completely accurate. These are just a few pictures I found I have on file, from in the old shop. I don't have that many items using Philips screws, but these are a few.







Yes, I do try to clock Philips screws where it really matters and they are readily visible to the casual observer as you can see above. Your past clocking efforts weren't all in vain, honest. However, on that floor drain cover, there only 3 screws, they are a very small size, the tile lines around them are on a diagonal, and it's on the floor.... in the garage. I just didn't feel there was any real meaningful reference point to clock them to.........so I didn't even try! :scared: I really should have qualified my statement about "not clocking Philips screws and therefore it didn't really matter." I'll do my very best to not be so careless with my wording in the future. :eek:

Now as for keeping the garage floor tidy, note the grout lines are very dark and any bits that might fall in them would be next to invisible. The floor overall is light colored so it'll require a little more attention than bare concrete to keep it clean but Chris will be the first to tell you I've never shied away from cleaning, doesn't bother me a bit. Check back with me in a few months about how I like the floor. As always, thank you for your continued interest.

Nice work on the cart! I used Blickle casters on my roll around welding table because I had seen you use them on your table. I'm going to start on a mobile bench grinder stand soon and will definitely be using them on it. Thanks for letting us tag along on your projects!

Southern83 great to hear you've discovered the joy of good quality casters. They are one of, if not the most important component on a portable piece of equipment. I'm counting on all my Blickles to last a lifetime.
BTW, I just completed another, different kind of mobile grinder stand. Check back for details on that one.

Thomas, the tile floor looks fantastic. Once again your attention to detail shows in the results. So many projects, you’ve been a very busy guy.

Well done.

Bob

Thanks Bob. Are you going to try to make it back to Bonneville again next year? I'm sorry I didn't get to spend as much time with you or Simon for that matter last August. It was a very busy meet for Lou and I.
 
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Believe one of your neighbor's that owned the alfalfa field/helipad in the 70's was a veterinary. Farmer I was working for left me in charge while he went on family vacation. Second day under my command, I arrive to feed the calves and find one hooves up in the feed lot. Get the loader and remove from feed lot. Got in touch with said vet and upon inspection, declared him dead, no kidding!! Two days later, I have another dead calf on my hands. Decided not to bother the veterinary with my problem and being a University of Illinois business administration student, make connections with the AG department and offer up one dead calf for autopsy provided I get a copy of the report. Only catch, I had to deliver subject to Urbana. No problem, loaded subject in back of farmer's pickup and headed north on hwy 130 to Urbana. Whoops, forgot to fill up truck, no problem, I'll stop at the Philo Sunoco! I also never thought to tarp my load and a poor lady at the gas station had never seen a dead calf in the back of a pickup, whoops...sorry. Good thing I didn't decide to get a sandwich at Philo Tavern :)

Turned out some calves he bought to feed out had a rare blood problem, whole herd had to be vaccinated. Thank you U of I AG dept.

Love your place!
 

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Thanks Bob. Are you going to try to make it back to Bonneville again next year? I'm sorry I didn't get to spend as much time with you or Simon for that matter last August. It was a very busy meet for Lou and I.

You bet, I am definitely planning to be back in 2020. I hope the racing happens this year but I know a lot of factors determine that outcome. I’m still planning to be there. It’s now fully in my blood. No need to feel sorry. I totally understand you guys are busy and am just glad to re-connect a little and see you around the area.
If more GJ members want to make the trip maybe we can have a little meet and greet set up. But either way I enjoy the trip and the event.

Bob
 
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Believe one of your neighbor's that owned the alfalfa field/helipad in the 70's was a veterinary........ Second day under my command, I arrive to feed the calves and find one hooves up in the feed lot.

..........Got in touch with said vet and upon inspection, declared him dead, no kidding!!

....... farmer's pickup and headed north on hwy 130 to Urbana. Whoops, forgot to fill up truck, no problem, I'll stop at the Philo Sunoco! I also never thought to tarp my load and a poor lady at the gas station had never seen a dead calf in the back of a pickup, whoops...sorry. Good thing I didn't decide to get a sandwich at Philo Tavern :)

Love your place!

Hello Sifan! The vortex that swirls around COTU is at it again I see. You better take notes!

I'm pretty sure the Philo veterinarian you speak of was Doc Scott. He was Philo's only Vet. He lived...

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...just north of my alfalfa field and his property had a common property line with my field. He didn't owned my field though, Paul Boatman did. Paul was a research technician, conducting research on animal diseases at the U of I College of Veterinary Medicine and technically not a veterinarian. Because of that I think it was Doc Scott who you got in touch with, not Paul. I bought my field from Paul back in 2012. I can easily see how you could get the two mixed up. Both were in Vet Med and lived right next to each other.

Now stay with me on this next bit. For additional test material, this last fall I bought our newest property from Paul Boatman's estate. He passed away almost exactly 1 year ago, age 96. He lived all alone in that house which he built himself in the mid 1970's with summer help from Veterinary Medicine students on summer break. One of the reason's I bought that house was to honor Paul and make sure his house was respected and properly remodeled. Paul was a WW II veteran, serving in the South Pacific, primarily in Palau. For those of you who are really sharp you'll remember...

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...that Palau was one of the islands I flew to while I was flying for Air Micronesia (Continental). When we would have Paul over for dinner, he and I would compare notes on the common areas of the South Pacific we'd both been to. He was fascinated with my pictures from my time out there. That whole part of the world was pretty torn up while he was stationed there in 1944-45.

Interesting also Sifan that you remembered the gas station was a Sunoco at the time. Quite correct and one of very few Sunoco's in our area at that time. I can only imagine what would have happened if you'd have parked your truck with a dead calf in the bed in front of the Tavern. They'd still be talking about that! :eek:

If you're ever back in the area, stop on by!

You bet, I am definitely planning to be back in 2020.....

If more GJ members want to make the trip maybe we can have a little meet and greet set up. But either way I enjoy the trip and the event.

Bob

That's a great idea Bob. Let's plant that idea now and if anyone else is planning on going, let's try to do a Garage Journal meet and greet out there.

Thomas
 

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Thomas, Yes, Scott was his name and farm/ranch was either "Triple S" or "Triple SSS" Reason I thought field was his, he borrowed two of our distinctive rack wagons to bale hay. When we were getting ready to mow and bale hay, I asked what are we going to do for racks. Boss said use the ones behind the barn, and I replied you mean the one's sitting in Doc Scott's field loaded with hay, that I see every time I go to classes at U of I? WHAT?? I thought you loaned them out, they've been there tarped for two weeks.
My marching orders were to take the pickup, hook up the wagons and kick the hay off in the field. Got them hooked up, had one untarped and was getting ready to kick bales when Doc showed up. Then things got interesting LOL Now, wages at that time was a whopping $2.00/hour and when Doc offered $100.00 to kick them off at his place north of Camargo instead of the field, he got my attention. Since it was only 5 miles out of the way, I took his $100.00 and hit the road. :) While on the road, I decided wasn't really right to be on the boss's clock, in his truck, and making money from Doc Scott. Completed kicking off the bales and while hooking up and servicing the baler told Boss about the $100 and handed it to him. Boss started laughing and said if you got $100 out of Doc Scott, you're a better man than me, put it in your pocket. Woohoo!! Was a good day for me and my first $100 bill!

Thanks for the invite, in laws still farm west of Camargo and I'll probably be up to work in Spring. Usually work long hard hours and then have a 3 hour drive home, but you never know :)
 
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Totally awesome. Thank you for posting the old pictures before the new ones. Great job.

Hello QwikKotaTx and many thanks for your post. I personally love before and after pictures. By doing it that way, gives much more meaning and context to the subject matter.

For example, just stating that the lift room as a mess when I bought the shop and that I then cleaned it up...





...has a lot more impact when you can see the difference. Especially if the picture is from the same prospective as seen above.

Thomas
 

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This thread never gets old, those pics make me want to start at the beginning and read it all again. This is the first thread I found when I started lurking here years ago because the thought of buying an old welding shop and actually restoring it fascinated me then the level you took it to was unreal. Thanks for the trip so far. Cant wait to see what is next.

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Hello QwikKotaTx and many thanks for your post. I personally love before and after pictures. By doing it that way, gives much more meaning and context to the subject matter.

For example, just stating that the lift room as a mess when I bought the shop and that I then cleaned it up...





...has a lot more impact when you can see the difference. Especially if the picture is from the same prospective as seen above.

Thomas

Agreed. Having the foresight to take all of those pictures and include the contents for comparison later is a gift I do not have. Kudos to you for not bulldozing history!
 

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QwikKotaTx -- Tom loves bulldozing things, but he's selective and recycles as he does it. History is important to us. Virtually everything we've taken down has some personal connections for us. Plus we have to live in this town and want the outcome to be positive for us, our neighbors and townspeople. Our neighbors appreciate it, too, and that's a bonus!

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QwikKotaTx -- Tom loves bulldozing things, but he's selective and recycles as he does it. History is important to us. Virtually everything we've taken down has some personal connections for us. Plus we have to live in this town and want the outcome to be positive for us, our neighbors and townspeople. Our neighbors appreciate it, too, and that's a bonus!

Chris

That's great. My Dad has renovated many homes over the years and a lot of them have custom touches before and after his involvement.
 

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That's a great idea Bob. Let's plant that idea now and if anyone else is planning on going, let's try to do a Garage Journal meet and greet out there.

Thomas

Thomas
I haven't been to the salt in +/- 30 years. A meet & greet out there sounds like fun. Count me in.
Terry
 
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Manual Give Away

Going through some of my Dad's material and I came across these 2 manuals.
I'd like to give them to anyone who might want to have them. I thought I'd offer them on this thread first. I hate to just throw them away.



This is for a Powermatic Model 143 band saw.



This is for a Kohler Gen Set Model 15 MM 25. It's a very comprehensive manual, about 1" thick of material.

If anyone would like either or both, please send me a PM with your mailing address and I'll send them. I'll cover postage if it's in the USA.

Got the hose hangers back from powder coating today.





Might get them installed this weekend. They look quite nice I think. Stand by. Thanks everyone.

Thomas
 
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Re: Manual Give Away

Thomas,

That silver Impala is a perfect backdrop for your new hangers! Great eye by the photographer.

Thanks Bill. I did notice that when I was photographing the hangers and wondered how it would turn out.



The car was the '64 SS...



... with factory A/C. I've had that car over 20 years now. What a sweetheart. (no worries Chris, you are still the object of my affection!! :) ) I had it out yesterday in fact, exercising it while the weather was still mild and dry with no salt on the roads. It's been primarily 40's and 50's here for a few weeks. OK by me for Dec and Jan.

Thomas
 

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Hangers look “factory” Thomas.


Nice to see more activity on the thread, it does become addictive


Despite you guys having a life to live between all the other activities


Happy belated New Year to you and Chris.
 

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Griz1963 - Life IS activities. Never a dull moment! Did I mention Fun?

Happy New Year to you, too, and everyone else checking in on us!!


Chris
 
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The hubcaps from the 1963 and 1964 Super Sports were a big deal when I was in high school.
My car was a 1959 Chevy Impala convertable. It was red with a black top and black interior. I had traded a ragged out 1957 bel air 2 dr. hard top for the new top and interior on the 59.
I bought a set of the 64' Super Sports hubs caps off of a used car on car lot for $10.00 which I though was a good deal.
Later on I wound up with Mickey Thompson mags on the front of my 59 and chrome reverse rims on the back.
Growing up in a wrecking yard and building cars from junk and trading parts and work for parts was a good way to learn about cars and to keep my car going.

Seeing your 64 with those hubcaps made me think of all this. So it is your fault for having so much content on here that caused me to carry on like this.

Thanks and I enjoy your thread very much.:thumbup:

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