oldmachinenut
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Roy Demeo had a theory about situations like this.
Service Truck Tool Bin Thieves
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When I was in Italy, I was shown legal hardening of property (nails and glass in fence tops and such) and illegal boobytraps. They see the world in a different way.
They even made it look pretty (multiple corresponding colors of pretty glass that complimented each other with nails in different directions).
I said “what if they have a mattress?”… they said pretty much what all of you are saying. That you cannot really stop a thief, you can only slow them down or encourage them to find a softer target.
They even made it look pretty (multiple corresponding colors of pretty glass that complimented each other with nails in different directions).
I said “what if they have a mattress?”… they said pretty much what all of you are saying. That you cannot really stop a thief, you can only slow them down or encourage them to find a softer target.
GGwt a lawn chair and sir beside the trucks with a shotgun. Other than that, given sufficient tine, they will get them open. (Most tweakers with a load of 00 buck in the chest dont have very much time left)
Yes I had a laptop stolen from my car parked in my driveway in front of my house. Called the police and told him we always have problems with this one house in the neighborhood and they were the most likely suspect. He wouldn't even go knock on their door! Instead he replied I should install a video security system. I decided to permanently fix it and moved.
You should consider the same?
I just could not get the police to do anything except file a report.
Also had a similar but different experience at work with a video surveillance system. Had the guys on tape but with hats and the dark of night it was impossible to tell who it was. What was funny was it turned out to be one of our own employee's! No wonder they seemed to always take the most valuable metal in the yard but he knew right where to go and even used the shop forklift to load up the gooodies!
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You should consider the same?
I just could not get the police to do anything except file a report.
Also had a similar but different experience at work with a video surveillance system. Had the guys on tape but with hats and the dark of night it was impossible to tell who it was. What was funny was it turned out to be one of our own employee's! No wonder they seemed to always take the most valuable metal in the yard but he knew right where to go and even used the shop forklift to load up the gooodies!
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Paco Pena
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I'd like to know who was waiting inside.In Paris about ten years ago there was an older Land Rover that appeared to be boondocking on the street. The side windows weren't really windows -- they were mirrored stickers on the solid cabin walls.
The most interesting thing were the video cameras monitoring the exterior of the vehicle. They appeared to have LED infrared illumination, and I'm guessing, motion sensors. Were they real, or just dummies? Were they really for security or just some fancy trail cam? Are these something that would serve as a deterrent? Dunno, but I thought it was a clever idea.
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BlackBowtie
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Man!! I woke up this morning from a absolute nightmare that my garage door somehow didn't close all the way, and some thieves stole all of my wrenches, cordless tools/impacts, pliers, tons of sockets, floor jacks, scan tools etc, walked out to see all my tool box drawers wide open and empty. It was terrible! My wife woke up a little before me and I told her about it and the response I got was............"Tragic" 
And now I come on here and this thread is at the top of the page. I've never really had anything stolen from me, I'm sorry some of you guys have had to experience that.
A lot of thieves are opportunist, you have to do everything you can to avoid giving them the opportunity. I had to tell my youngest sister-in-law to stop leaving things visible in her car. Sure enough someone smashed her front passenger window in broad daylight at her job to steal a empty air pod case and a couple dollars from the center console while they were at it. But the air pod case is what triggered it all. Then a few days ago she had a couple amazon boxes in her back seat, even with the factory tint I could easily see it from the street. They were empty boxes but a would be thief doesn't know that and is now smashing more windows over an empty box.
And like @tester19 story, your next thief is usually someone close to you, friend, family, employee etc. really top 5 scums of the earth.
And now I come on here and this thread is at the top of the page. I've never really had anything stolen from me, I'm sorry some of you guys have had to experience that.
A lot of thieves are opportunist, you have to do everything you can to avoid giving them the opportunity. I had to tell my youngest sister-in-law to stop leaving things visible in her car. Sure enough someone smashed her front passenger window in broad daylight at her job to steal a empty air pod case and a couple dollars from the center console while they were at it. But the air pod case is what triggered it all. Then a few days ago she had a couple amazon boxes in her back seat, even with the factory tint I could easily see it from the street. They were empty boxes but a would be thief doesn't know that and is now smashing more windows over an empty box.
And like @tester19 story, your next thief is usually someone close to you, friend, family, employee etc. really top 5 scums of the earth.
A few years ago, my Sister-in-law yelled that someone was breaking into my pickup in broad daylight. I ran to the door and slipped on a pair of street shoes and headed out the driveway in fresh, heavy snowfall. I opened the driver's door and the guy was trying to slide out under me. Now, I was SO ready to beat the **** out of him, but as I have to travel internationally for work, can NOT risk a charge. He managed to slide out so I spun around and grabbed him from behind, under his arms with my hands together behind his neck, forcing him onto his knees. I was rather pissed and realized I could quite easily and happily break the jerk's neck. As I was trying to moderate the force, along comes a guy in a Honda SUV screaming at me to stop attacking this "kid" and started swinging at me. In the process, the thief threw his arms up and slipped down out of his coat. I tried to go after him, but my street shoes in the fresh snow left me sliding and falling while he and his boots made tracks down the street - there his accomplice/handler (the guy who was screaming at me pretending to be a good citizen) picked him up and buggered off in the Honda. I went into the house to see WTF the cops were and right away my SIL told me he was back again!!!!! When I hit the door he was gone in a flash running between houses and jumping fences. Just about then, the law pulled up and started to ask questions, and as I answered some neighbours came over to fill in some blanks. I handed the cops his coat and asked what kind of idiot would risk getting caught a second time over a $15 WalMart coat. Cops walked me out to the truck and asked me to show them where the scuffle started and one leaned over and started running his hand under the snow near the door. Like some scene out of a totally unlikely movie after a few seconds he pulled up a wallet!!!! Apparently as he slid down against the seat and door sil it knocked it out of his back pocket (thus no doubt why returning to scene of the crime. When they opened his wallet one said: "Ah, WE know this guy" and proceeded to tell me he is still a minor so good thing I did not clobber the little *****. They called a couple days later to tell me he was charged, arrested and restricted to home and school. two days later he had violated his terms and was in custody. A couple of months down the road I get a call from some do-gooder fool what asks if I would meet with them so the ***** could apologize since he was REALLY sorry for his actions and then I could put in a good word for him in his sentencing hearing. I asked them if he had turned in his accomplice, to which they replied "there was not accomplice" which was total BS. I told them that they were complete morons as the little ***** was playing them and they were too naiive and stupid to even know that. IF I could be in town, I would definitely appear at his sentencing but in no way supporting anything less than the most severe possible. The game is that these young and ORGANIZED criminals recruit minors to do their dirty work knowing full well they will get off 99% of the time with a tongue lashing. Until people realize that punishment has to be PUNISHMENT, not merely a country club where criminals can meet with and learn from other criminals how to be better criminals. We could save BILLIONS of court, legal and jail time costs if victims of crimes could be held immune from prosecution as a result of what happens during the commission of a crime. I guarantee you that if I could have beat the living **** out of the little ********, he would NEVER go down that road again. Better yet, if these scum happened to get a bullet in the brain, the whole world would be a better place the next day.
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pizza
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hah. good thing that retard came back. if he didn't, i bet you wouldn't have found his wallet and ID'd him.
or if it did get found, it would have been in the spring, and someone might have just returned it to him out of kindness.
Man!! I woke up this morning from a absolute nightmare that my garage door somehow didn't close all the way, and some thieves stole all of my wrenches, cordless tools/impacts, pliers, tons of sockets, floor jacks, scan tools etc, walked out to see all my tool box drawers wide open and empty. It was terrible! My wife woke up a little before me and I told her about it and the response I got was............"Tragic"
I left my garage door open overnight once. Luckily, I live on a dead end street and there were no lights on in the garage, and nothing was stolen. I about had a panic attack when I first realized that it had been left open.
After that night, I installed an alarm sensor on my garage door and also put a wired Blink camera in the garage. I check the camera every night before I go to sleep to make sure the garage door is closed.
engineer2
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We've been having more property crime lately. They are smashing car windows for small change. Auto thefts are up too.
After a neighbor's car got broken into I got a Ring floodlight camera for the driveway.
Won't stop professional thieves, but it will keep the local punks away.
Illinois law states that you need to be able to visually identify the criminal or they can't be charged.
There was a funny local video of a kid who went up to a house, saw the camera, got big eyes, and high-tailed it out of there.
After a neighbor's car got broken into I got a Ring floodlight camera for the driveway.
Won't stop professional thieves, but it will keep the local punks away.
Illinois law states that you need to be able to visually identify the criminal or they can't be charged.
There was a funny local video of a kid who went up to a house, saw the camera, got big eyes, and high-tailed it out of there.
Fpr us, the shift has been HUGE over last 30 years. We live in what was a quiet, dry Menonite town where we never locked homes, garages and usually left keys in cars. We have become a booming bedroom community with all of the city problems that go with it.
As far as being able to identify thieves: I have reached the stage where I would prefer to tell police to look for the ones with a fresh bullet hole in them. Of course, in Canada that would be a crime on its own. One of the laws to make things easier for criminals to make a good and safe living. Nice people, eh?
We have the same thing here with gypsies. By 27 they already have grandkids which they use for any illegal stuff.
As a "protected minority"
Busted Knucles
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A rattle snake in each box should work. On top of that, a switch wired to a loud siren and cab lights through a relay if the box is opened.
ez-duzit
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You have to make these targets of opportunity less so by more cleverly hidden security than a cheap hasp and padlock hanging right in front of their face. It helps to park in a well-lit, more secure area.
This!
In my city if you call the police because of a break-in/theft you'll get, "Due to reduced staff we are unable to respond to your low priority call".
If you booby trap your car - or property - and someone gets hurt, the cops will show up in force to haul your **** to jail.
Personally, I'd install some battery powered sprayers and have them shoot SuperGlue in case of a break-in. I hear criminals like gluing themselves to things these days.