Show off your DOE's!
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Are you referring to these
Private Lugnutz
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Thanks. I couldn't see the markings in the holder. Is the holder marked Craftsman?
He's referring to the wrenches that look like Hinsdale Vanadium DOE's with the wide sunken panel in the shank. He's showing 4 of them in Pics 4 & 5 in his post #1,238.
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I'll look around in my stash. I usually leave old Craftsman behind, I see so many, but I may have stumbled on them without knowing it or if they looked uncommon.
Are you referring to these
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Hey guys I just recently purchased this set and I'm trying to figure out if there is one more wrench that belongs to the set it gose up to 7/8 -3/4 but I'm wondering if there's supposed to be a 15/16- 1" I haven't received item yet because I just bought it on the bay ?
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Thanks to generous collectors in this hobby with the right spirit of sharing scans of their catalogs and tireless and long-time open source advocates such as GJ member @Mark Stansbury at the Internet Archive / International Tool Catalog Library for hosting them in a well-organized online space, you can look up that wrench set in the 1948, 1949, and 1952 Craftsman catalogs for FREE.
I really appreciate it thanksThanks to generous collectors in this hobby with the right spirit of sharing scans of their catalogs and tireless and long-time open source advocates such as GJ member @Mark Stansbury at the Internet Archive / International Tool Catalog Library for hosting them in a well-organized online space, you can look up that wrench set in the 1948, 1949, and 1952 Craftsman catalogs for FREE.
Finally got the craftsman =v= set in I thought it was missing a 15/16 -1" but there's no room in the metal carrier it looks like a full set to me one question is I have noticed is that usely the smaller wrench comes -v- and not =v= it kinda had me thinking that mabe it dosent belong to the set but I have seen craftsman do this with offset box end combo wrenches tappet wrenches does anyone know why the smaller wrench is a -v- and not =v= ? Thanks
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The two lines won’t fit on the smaller =v= wrenches, as I learned from Craftsman experts. If they have a part number they are -v-.
-Don
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Witch ones would be older -v- or =v= or from same time periodThe two lines won’t fit on the smaller =v= wrenches, as I learned from Craftsman experts. If they have a part number they are -v-.
-Don
d42jeep
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The =v= wrenches are older than the -v- wrenches with the part numbers. The =v= wrenches with pointed ”A”s are older than the =v= wrenches with the rounded top “A”s.
-Don
Pointed “A”s on the upper little wrench, rounded “A”s on the lower little wrench. These small wrenches should be considered to be as old as the larger =v= wrenches.
-Don
Pointed “A”s on the upper little wrench, rounded “A”s on the lower little wrench. These small wrenches should be considered to be as old as the larger =v= wrenches.
Private Lugnutz
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FYSA, several good Craftsman studies threads in the Sticky Index...
ThanksThe =v= wrenches are older than the -v- wrenches with the part numbers. The =v= wrenches with pointed ”A”s are older than the =v= wrenches with the rounded top “A”s.
-Don
Pointed “A”s on the upper little wrench, rounded “A”s on the lower little wrench. These small wrenches should be considered to be as old as the larger =v= wrenches.
d42jeep
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None better niceThis came out of the evaporust yesterday. Obviously it’s the best wrench posted on this thread.
-Don
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RTM
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Those are thread sizes,not head sizes, so non-SAE standard
Mintgrun
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I'm thinking this might be a rare little wrench, since AA said F. H. AYER MFG. CO. of CHICAGO HEIGHTS, ILL, USA only made pressed steel socket sets. I did a little searching in the digital world and didn't find another. Without further ado,
(I also joined the WAKEFIELD No. 45 club today).
(I also joined the WAKEFIELD No. 45 club today).
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First one I have seen
d42jeep
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Me too.
Here is the info from BK’s manufacturer’s list.
“Ayer / F.H. Ayer Mfg. Co., Chicago Heights, IL / patent 1072807 Sep 9 1913 & 1199737 Sep 26 1916 & 1199738 Sep 26 1916 Frederick H. Ayer / http://alloy-artifacts.org/other-makers.html#fh-ayer /“
All of the patents refer to ratchet mechanisms.
-Don
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Several early thread standards, the link below was one. The early bolts were sized like Whitworth, where the wrench was labeled for the threaded shaft size, not the size of the head.
United States Standard thread - Wikipedia
Several threads cover this on the vintage side.
Mintgrun
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These two wrenches are quite similar. Just sayin'.
I think it is Armstrong I have seen this logo b4
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The opening correlate to U.S.S. sizes, if you allow the openings to be slightly (.010 to .015) oversize to allow easy fit. 11/16" for the 3/8" fastener head, and 25/32" for the 7/16" one.
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d42jeep
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I found this on Friday at a garage sale. I couldn’t see any markings until I cleaned it up. I’m not familiar with the brand.
-Don
-Don
Mintgrun
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At least on the big end. The difference in shape between the two throats is interesting. They don't look modified either. Maybe this is a transition wrench, going from square to hex! (joking) Odd marking. Is that a stylized Y at the bottom?
Tom
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Southington Mfg. Co.
@leg17 has a few, and we have discussed them here before if you want to search the thread. @LesserSon, too, IIRC. I have managed to assemble a 5-pc set (No. 500 thru 504) over the years, linked here...
The Lugzsonian - A Virtual Tour
No worries. In our typical synchronicity, I was just letting you know the same thing on your Barc-Buff thread. HAHA.
www.garagejournal.com
d42jeep
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Thanks. I’ll need to check the other side for the number.Southington Mfg. Co.
@leg17 has a few, and we have discussed them here before if you want to search the thread. @LesserSon, too, IIRC. I have managed to assemble a 5-pc set (No. 500 thru 504) over the years, linked here...
The Lugzsonian - A Virtual Tour
No worries. In our typical synchronicity, I was just letting you know the same thing on your Barc-Buff thread. HAHA.
-Don
Edit…. The other side is kind of pitted but I believe that it’s a 503.
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Private Lugnutz
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Unless someone posted one without calling it out in text for the search engine to find, I do believe this tiny ******, found at the flea market yesterday, is a FOAK for GJ, or anywhere else among the usual haunts (i.e., AA, Progress is Fine blogspot, etc).
The only other reference to Harris & Reed that I can find here on GJ is @four.cycle 's extensive A-Z US Mfgrs list, where he notes their "Alligator" style wrench, branded the "Sawvian".
I found that in my literature search, as well entries in Hendrick's for them producing 'Sheaves', 'Door Hangers' (same way Dodge Brothers started!), 'Automobile hubs', 'Bicycle hubs', and 'Bicycle parts & sundries'.
They were in business as early as 1915, when they were advertising "Stamped Wrenches", which is what I've got...
...still extant in 1931...
...and producing something that did not merit a $50,000 contract (the cut line for inclusion in the WPB records) for the war effort.
I'd really like to know if they made other sizes or a set.
The only other reference to Harris & Reed that I can find here on GJ is @four.cycle 's extensive A-Z US Mfgrs list, where he notes their "Alligator" style wrench, branded the "Sawvian".
I found that in my literature search, as well entries in Hendrick's for them producing 'Sheaves', 'Door Hangers' (same way Dodge Brothers started!), 'Automobile hubs', 'Bicycle hubs', and 'Bicycle parts & sundries'.
They were in business as early as 1915, when they were advertising "Stamped Wrenches", which is what I've got...
...still extant in 1931...
...and producing something that did not merit a $50,000 contract (the cut line for inclusion in the WPB records) for the war effort.
I'd really like to know if they made other sizes or a set.
Mintgrun
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The difference in the shapes of the two ends is interesting/unusual.