Show off your DOE's!

[four.cycle]

WOW.
How'd you make the drawing? Photoshop?

At first I thought maybe "European" because of the design, but then I downloaded and enlarged your images and noticed the square cut gullets and thought "textile mill".

I'm seeing a "W" in there that could possibly mean "wool" or "woolen".

That's my initial "I've-been-on-this-page-for-less-than-90-seconds" best wild guess.

 

[Steven 33]

Don't really know anything about this one.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Machine or tool post wrench, made for the name of the machine company on the shank, probably by Williams.

 

[Steven 33]

Champion 504A I should have a full set somewhere if I can find them.
Also a pretty cool early bonney

 

[leg17]

Don't really know anything about this one.

Sometimes referred to as "set screw wrench".
The openings designed for square head set screws, often found in tool posts as Lugz referred to.

 

[d42jeep]

I found a DOE that I don’t believe I’ve seen before. It’s a 10mm x 12mm marked “NEON” in an oval. There is no COO.
-Don

 

[Outlawmws]

10mm x 12mm marked “NEON” in an oval. There is no COO.

Now that's different...

 

[Stubby1743]

Neon spanners are part of some Japanese motorcycle tool kits I believe.

 

[Mintgrun]

Yup, a little Googling suggests it's for a Suzuki motorcycle.

 

[Leviton]

Anyone out there with searching skills that are better than mine? I can't find any information on this stamped DOE. It is marked K233302. Both openings are 1/2-inch. It is 4-inches long and 3/16" thick. No markings on the other side.

 

[leg17]

Interesting. Looks like a stamping from relatively thick stock.

What does the other side look like?

About how thick is it?

 

[Leviton]

Interesting. Looks like a stamping from relatively thick stock.

What does the other side look like?

About how thick is it?

... It is 4-inches long and 3/16" thick. No markings on the other side.

 

[leg17]

Sorry, missed the thickness note.
I was wondering if the wrench is indeed a stamping or a forging or a casting.
It looks like it is stamped. The other side might indicate a "punch or die" side.
The edge might indicate evidence of a punch or a parting line or some other clue.

 

[Leviton]

sdsd

Anyone out there with searching skills that are better than mine? I can't find any information on this stamped DOE. It is marked K233302. Both openings are 1/2-inch. It is 4-inches long and 3/16" thick. No markings on the other side.

It looks like it is stamped. The other side might indicate a "punch or die" side.
The edge might indicate evidence of a punch or a parting line or some other clue.

Hi @leg17. Here are edge and back side photos. Thanks.

 

[leg17]

Thanks. Stamped.

 

[Outlawmws]

Thanks. Stamped.

Yep, So stated in his first post:

I can't find any information on this stamped DOE

 

[MisterEd]

Wallace & Tiernan (W & T) P-8200 Wrench; 1/2, 3/4 & 3/8 square

A Wrench from Wallace & Tiernan likely for use in maintaining water purification equipment.

The following is from the August 2012 edition, Spanner & Wrench Collector newsletter of “Hand Tool Preservation Association of Australia” (htpaa.org.au) where members discovered the origin of similar Wrenches.
“The Wallace & Tiernan name comes from Americans Charles Wallace and Martin Tiernan, who got together in 1909 to develop a means of introducing chlorine into water to make it safe for drinking.”
“Fortunately one of the smaller ones was marked Wallace & Tiernan Australia / P8200”
(https://www.htpaa.org.au/images/SWC/Spanner_and_Wrench_Collector_Issue-9.pdf)

The PDF is interesting reading for tool accumulators anywhere on earth.

 

[Stubby1743]

The FASTNUT picked up at a local car boot sale on Sunday and the two Hazets were picked up on Saturday at a motorcycle jumble where there was tons of tools.

Almost 100years between the top one and the two Hazet spanners.

The FASTNUT is the first of this type of spanner that I've bought and at 4 1/4" long, it must be about the smallest size of this type of ratcheting spanner made.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The FASTNUT is the first of this type of spanner that I've bought and at 4 1/4" long, it must be about the smallest size of this type of ratcheting spanner made.

Cool wrench. I don't know that I have ever seen one that seems to be explicitly made and marketed for the bicycle or motorcycle market. I have a SIMPLEX RATCHETING wrench marked "FASTNUT LICENSE" (see attached). These were made by the Simplex Wrench Company here in the US under license to the British enterprise and famously advertised in late 1920's era Snap-on (Motor Specialty Company) catalogs. More on that topic, including the catalog excerpts, the original Cook patent (GB-194,041 / March 8, 1923), some photos of other "BRITISH MADE" FASTNUT wrenches with a handsome black ox finish, and more, here.

 

[Stubby1743]

There is also a "FASTNUT RADIO".

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I'm a sucker for kitschy wrenches with kitschy branding like this...



...plucked out of the bottom of a toolbox littered with tiny wrenches at the flea market this morning.

According to 4.c's A-Z Mfgrs List (which is the only thread on GJ the.GJ Search engine returned any hits on the term "FIX'N'SAVE"), the term "Fix-N-Save," with hyphens, was TM'ed by Spiegel Brothers...

Steelcraft / Steelcraft Tool Corp., 36-50 31st St., Long Island City, NY / Spiegel Bros. Corp. (same address) / "Fix-N-Save" / est. 1919, acquired by Atlas Tool Group, Long Island City, NY / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478374 / https://books.google.com/books?id=7U66AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA2190&dq=Spiegel+Brothers /

...and I did find that TM notice when searching Google Books.



I don't know if the syntax in this wrench ("FIX'N'SAVE"), with apostrophes, is an attempt by some other entity to circumvent that TM, or if it's one in the same and just a slightly different allowable expression of it, but its proliferation, as evidenced by this 1962 Consumer Bulletin (unattributed mfgr, snippet only views) roasting the poor quality...



...certainly matches Spiegel's Bros' diversity of use in the TM application, and, they were big importers, so I am going with Occam for now.

 

[four.cycle]

Occam for the win

It would appear that the manner in which the brand name was expressed on the products and the packaging was not always necessarily an exact match to the graphic on the trademark document:


Fix'N'Save (Japan) 8-in adjustable wrench and SAE ignition wrench set (ebay 234321149385 01)

Fix'N'Save (Japan) 12-pc 3.8 hex drive SAE socket set (ebay 174998686929 08)

ebay search for fix-n-save returns 63 items, most of which are branded Fix'n'Save
ebay search for "fix-n-save" returns 63 items, most of which are branded Fix'n'Save
ebay search for "fix'n'save" returns 63 items, most of which are branded Fix'n'Save

ebay's search feature doesn't make the distinction between ' and - (I've already determined that with S-K - you can search "SK" or "S-K" or "S_K" and you'll get the same returns.)

I am somewhat puzzled by the 657386 number, which appears to be a trademark on the name "Mercedes Benz".

Steelcraft / Steelcraft Tool Corp., 36-50 31st St., Long Island City, NY / Spiegel Bros. Corp. (same address) / "Fix-N-Save" / est. 1919, acquired by Atlas Tool Group, Long Island City, NY / TM 598146 Nov 16 1954 First use 1922 "Steelcraft" & TM 738556 Oct 2 1962 First use Feb 5 1961 "Fix-n-Save" / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478374 / https://books.google.com/books?id=7U66AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA2190&dq=Spiegel+Brothers /

 

[Private Lugnutz]

...a Massey Harris Ferguson plow wrench.

Found one at the flea market today, Rags. I didn't realize how heavy they were! The forged-in rule on the flip side shank is supposedly used to measure either fuel level or blade settings or some such thing, but I could see it being used to whack something into place, too.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Also plucked this one out of an old wooden toolbox at the flea market this morning. If there's another one on GJ it's not coming up in a search of "Deane" or "Deane of Holyoke."

 

[Private Lugnutz]

^ I haven't done any deep research yet, but if it's not associated with this outfit, I'd be surprised at the coincidence.

 

[four.cycle]

Occam strikes again.

 

[Mintgrun]

I didn't realize how heavy they were! The forged-in rule on the flip side shank is supposedly used to measure either fuel level or blade settings or some such thing, but I could see it being used to whack something into place, too.

I've got a Ford plough wrench with dents on the big end, suggesting it's been used as a whacker. Mossberg made, I do believe.





Speaking of hefty double-enders, Don posted one of these M. KLEIN & SONS CAT 3146 wrenches in the Bell System thread, but the smaller unmarked version is the first I've seen.





jeffmoss26 says the big one is a "wrench for installing climbing hooks/wire clamps on telephone poles."

They're sort of quadruple-open-end wrenches, because both ends fit two different sizes. Although, the smaller end of the bigger wrench actually fits three.



While I was digging through the DOE box, I also pulled out this old Studebaker TIRE CARRIER WRENCH.



The other side has a <B> in a diamond and the numbers 3 678225, with an odd backwards Ƨ.



Tom

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Mossberg made, I do believe.

Moore Drop Forge. That's a nice one. I think I've only seen the Massey Harris Ferguson prior.

 

[Mintgrun]

Moore Drop Forge.

Doh! Now, I knoh. Thank you.

 

[4xdog]

I inherited these TRW metric double open ends from my brother's stuff about 15 years ago. They're in one of my Tacoma's go-tools. DOEs pack a lot of capability in a relatively small space.

 

[Leviton]

I paid $0.75 for this ugly, cheap DOE because I didn't have any tools by Walter.

Guessing this could have been made by Carl Walter Produktions GmbH & Co, that have been around for more than 100 years, but I don't know for sure.





(Another one of the "Chrom-Vanadium" bunch.)

 

[r_olson_06]

Anyone out there with searching skills that are better than mine? I can't find any information on this stamped DOE. It is marked K233302. Both openings are 1/2-inch. It is 4-inches long and 3/16" thick. No markings on the other side.

Just ran across this post. Could be a long shot but the KXXXXX is Plomb was part of a contract production for Douglas Aircraft.
Here is the Plomb part numbers. Hopefully it's not a wild goose chase.

 

[rollinlower]

biggest one i got lol

 

[Stubby1743]

Dropstamco brand made by Drop Stamping Company Ltd. of Birmingham. Dual marked in Whit. and BSF sizes and un-plated.

This spanner probably dates to the 1950's and the company seems to have ceased trading in the 1960's.

A search shows that the Dropstamco name only has one other appearance on this forum.

 

[d42jeep]

I spotted these two at a TOO sale yesterday.
-Don

 

[Ayrhead]

A partial set of wrenches. It’s looks like it’s missing the 1/2” x 9/16”. It’s not a brand I’m familiar with as it just says special steel on the one side and drop forged on the other. Thought they might be half decent as they’re made in West Germany…

 

[Ayrhead]

One Superslim DOE Wrench. Made in England

 

[d42jeep]

This unusual wrench currently on eBay was brought to my attention recently. It has unusual Diamond markings.
There is a possibility that it may have been made by Fairmount. More eBay photos.
-Don

 

[LesserSon]

Haven’t been on this thread in a while. Here are some Sears Merit DOEs - three with a more stylized logo are AF, the others are not marked w mfr code.
Nos 31, 729 (+AF), 723 (x2+AF), 21 (+AF)
ignition 3/8x11/32;

 

[Steven 33]

Some vlcheck and a cool ford style marked wrench and a barcalo Buffalo.