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Fresh from the barn some BADOEs. Billings, JH, and this other that I am unsure of. Looks to be WB in a diamond logo.IMG_20200730_204005308.jpegIMG_20200730_204611086.jpgIMG_20200730_204613654.jpgIMG_20200730_204618091.jpg

Looking for a Round Beam Plomb 1068 Double Box End Wrench
 
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My pleasure, Roy. I found this wrench at an estate sale today. I assume that it’s an early Mossberg.
-Don
 

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Fresh from the barn some BADOEs. Billings, JH, and this other that I am unsure of. Looks to be WB in a diamond logo.

Roy,
I used to have more W&B wrenches, but I still have this Alligator type wrench marked as W&B in a diamond. I am virtually certain that W&B was a NYC company that ultimately merged very early on with JH Williams. I don't see it in Alloy Artifacts or Wikipedia, bit darn it, I'm real confident that I read it somewhere.
 

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Fresh from the barn some BADOEs. Billings, JH, and this other that I am unsure of. Looks to be WB in a diamond logo.

Roy,
I used to have more WB wrenches, but I still have this Alligator type wrench marked as WB in a diamond. I am virtually certain that WB was a NYC company that ultimately merged very early on with JH Williams. I don't see it in Alloy Artifacts or Wikipedia, bit darn it, I'm real confident that I read it somewhere.

Edit. Found this pic of a double marked coach wrench on Ebay to solidify my point.
 

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I've had this around for a while...it's a Williams, 2 1/2” x 2 3/4”.

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Roy,
I used to have more WB wrenches, but I still have this Alligator type wrench marked as WB in a diamond. I am virtually certain that WB was a NYC company that ultimately merged very early on with JH Williams. I don't see it in Alloy Artifacts or Wikipedia, bit darn it, I'm real confident that I read it somewhere.

Edit. Found this pic of a double marked coach wrench on Ebay to solidify my point.
Thanks OoB! I pick up so many "farm wrenches" that I just having lying around. I have not dug too deep into them.

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I am virtually certain that WB was a NYC company that ultimately merged very early on with JH Williams. I don't see it in Alloy Artifacts or Wikipedia, bit darn it, I'm real confident that I read it somewhere.
Probably here on GJ I am guessing. Don (d42jeep) and I have a few W&B pieces, I have a dual marked pipe wrench around here somewhere, and their history has been discussed here before. Whitman had his own company in Fitchburg, Mass., and Barnes had one in Syracuse. They merged in the late 1800's. 1870 or so, off the top of my head. They had multiple factories in multiple states and Canada, but not NYC. They sold their drop-forging operations to J.H. Williams in 1920, but they kept their other factories, making twist drills, reamers, and cutlery.

EDIT: I see leg posted a VM link. Here is a link to an excellent Hathitrust PDF - "W&B: The First 100 Years," written by W&B. The artwork in this "history" (it's not a catalog) is amazing.
 
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I found a little 5/16 ignition (?) DOE wrench at an estate sale last weekend. It only has the marking "CAT#1522" and nothing else. Seems to be a fairly good wrench, at least not "cheap."

Does anyone know who made it?
 

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Another recent find was this big DOE. It is made of 3/8" thick stock, and the only marking is the number 806504. The openings are 1-3/16 and 1-9/16.

The number falls into a range used by Wright Aeronautical and Curtiss-Wright for tools supplied for use on their aircraft engines. Someone else may have used the same number sequence.

The Caterpillar Yellow paint is probably from a prior owner.
 

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Haha! Trying to think of something funny that starts with "E" and "the fuk", but failing.

Engineering Tools and Forging, Ltd, in St Catherines, Ont.

St. Catharines is a pretty neat little blue-collar burg.... I have a customer just west of there in Jordan Station, right on Lake Ontario. I miss getting up there,as I try to normally visit at least once a summer.
 

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St. Catharines is a pretty neat little blue-collar burg.... I have a customer just west of there in Jordan Station, right on Lake Ontario. I miss getting up there,as I try to normally visit at least once a summer.
Well, when you do get up there, or if you ever see ETF wrenches elsewhere in your neck of the woods, I need an ETF wrench like those shown above (nickel plated), size 5/8" x 3/4", to complete that set! (Just in case you ever see one, I need the roll-up too! :))

Here is a catalog excerpt. The wrenches are listed by their ISN, and the wrench I am missing is the 2729, but that's not on the wrench. Just the opening sizes, again, 5/8" x 3/4".

THANKS
 

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Picked this up at the flea market this morning.

I saw that on the GS thread, figured it would eventually get into the focal plane. Looked like it might be a Bonney 660 or 670 series. Not much on there to identify by, though, is there?
What width are the openings?
 
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Back in April 2018 (page 29, post #580) I found a Lectrolite tappet wrench (11/16" x 5/8") with apparent and still mystifying alloy compositional content quantity markings (.05 CHROME, .05 VANADIUM). Unaiu has a Tru-Fit combo wrench with the same markings, but abbreviated with less shank space on either side of the Tru-Fit panel.

Today I found another example to go with the first, and lucky for me, it's a 9/16" x 1/2".

See Pic 1 before clean-up.

See Pic 2 and 3 for photos of both wrenches together on the bench.

They both have the remains of cadmium-plating. As I have often said, cadmium plating is not enough to date a tool to WWII by itself, since it was used as an economy line alternative finish before and after the war. The apparent alloy percentage markings would seem to help date these wrenches to wartime, but the numerical values just don't make sense.

AISI 86XX and 87XX "New Emergency" steel formulas were triple alloys, with .5% Nickel, .5% Chromium, and .25% Molybdenum. On top of that, Vanadium was banned in any amount.

The other NE formula was a Manganese (1.45%) steel that used .6% Nickel, Chromium, or Molybdenum.

One possible explanation is late war production when the Vanadium restriction was lifted, but ".05" is extremely, nonsensically low for a double alloy, implying a third and primary content, or these values refer to something else other than percentage.

Don has a bunch of these that seem to be from just after this era production, with the same 'LECTROLITE, DEFIANCE, O.' markings on the top side, but instead of the strange composition markings on the flip side, they just have Tru-Fit 8001 and 8002 markings.

Whether the alloy quantity markings or the Tru-Fit 8001/8002 markings, these are the only two sizes of these Lectrolite tappet wrenches I have ever seen.
 

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Here are a few randoms I decided to clean up the other day from my toolbox. The Fairmount lettering is extremely worn or just not very defined from the factory.

A J.P. Danielson "Controlled Steel" 11/16 & 19/32

Fairmount Tool and Forging Co. (Worn, size unknown at the moment)

Dunlap (Vlchek) 1/2 & 9/16

I love how thin the Dunlap end faces are for getting into tighter spaces.
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Picked up these big boys this morning at a garage sale. Two are Armstrong and one is Whitman and Barnes. One is ISN 48 (2 - 2-3/8)and one is ISN 39 (1-1/4 - 1-7/16). I’m not sure about the third one yet.
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Here are a few randoms I decided to clean up the other day from my toolbox. The Fairmount lettering is extremely worn or just not very defined from the factory.

A J.P. Danielson "Controlled Steel" 11/16 & 19/32

Fairmount Tool and Forging Co. (Worn, size unknown at the moment)

Dunlap (Vlchek) 1/2 & 9/16

I love how thin the Dunlap end faces are for getting into tighter spaces.
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I believe that your Dunlap wrench was made by Moore Drop Forge.
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Due to my fondness for jam bands, and because there's really not a better place to put this multi open end (moe.)(get it?) wrench, I am putting it here. Just an old Victor acetylene torch or welding outfit wrench, but this jobbie is robustly forged, not made of cheap pressed steel, and regardless of the original intent, it has five different hex-throated nut openings on one shank. That's handy!
 

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Added three wrenches to my Kraeuter collection this morning at the flea market. Between the multiple size markings, the large K-Diamonds, the geometric panels, and the quotation marks bracketing the branding in the panels, these are some of the most stylish wrenches I own, right up there with the Bridgeport Nickel-Moly X panels.
 

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This wrench looks way older than 1970 to me, but according to their website, this is Whitney's 40th anniversary.
 

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Not sure where you got that 1970 start Lugz?

"Founded in 1910 in Rockford, Illinois, Roper Whitney has evolved steadily as the needs of our customer base have changed. Our company was originally established as Whitney Metal Tool, designing and building hand tools for sheet metal fabricators. "

https://www.roperwhitney.com/history/

I'd bet that was for adjusting an early shear or brake?
 
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