Show off your DOE's!

[LesserSon]

The other wrench appeared recently, mark SAE on one side, metric on the other, and Forged USA. Will find that post later.

I think unbranded, early Bridgeport. Before the Pyramid and Hy-bar designs.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I laid them out, took this pic,...

...from a step ladder, apparently! Been there, done that "aerial" photography thing.

Nice work.

I think unbranded, early Bridgeport. Before the Pyramid and Hy-bar designs.

I'm with you on the Bridgeport, but I was thinking later, after they switched from Molybdenum Alloy to Forged Steel and eventually just Forged U.S.A. markings. I could be wrong.

 

[d42jeep]

Mine has been posted on the Bridgeport thread.
-Don

 

[LesserSon]

I'm with you on the Bridgeport, but I was thinking later, after they switched from Molybdenum Alloy to Forged Steel and eventually just Forged U.S.A. markings. I could be wrong.

But look at the shape. That’s the same size openings.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Agreed, those ellipses look early. I was conflating the slanted font (which are on my dwarfie DBEs) with a different postwar change in DOE markings.

 

[MisterEd]

Fulton DOE "CI"

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Ci was billings I think

 

[d42jeep]

Here is another CI Fulton DOE I found earlier this year.
More recent DOE finds including some found today. I’m not sure who made these. The bottom one has no markings.

Here is a wrench made in West Germany with fractional sizes found today.
Found this Fiat marked wrench today
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I’m not sure who made these.

The No. 23 is BHM.

 

[d42jeep]

Thanks. I knew that I had seen one before but couldn’t remember the maker. I’ll throw it in the Bridgeport box with my other one.
-Don

 

[Tostal]

Found these Fiat car toolkit tools when I was doing some 'consolidation'.
1st pic is afaik a complete kit that was supplied with many Fiats back in the 1970's? (minus the grey plastic box that housed them).


~T.

 

[d42jeep]

This International Harvester Company wrench I found at a garage sale yesterday came out of the evaporust today. Looks like USS sizes marked on the wrench.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

Here is a DOE I found at a Tahoe garage sale yesterday. This mystery logo has been discussed before. As I was reminded, Lugz posted a perfect handle screwdriver with the same logo. It came out of the evaporust this morning and since it was chrome plated it received the full treatment. Maybe there are enough clues to figure out who made it.
After cleanup

-Don

 

[LesserSon]

Now it’s out of the bath, the second circular logo is clearly the Japanese Institute of Standards!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

This mystery logo has been discussed before. As I was reminded, Lugz posted a perfect handle screwdriver with the same logo.

It seems almost inconceivable, Don, but I don't think that "S" and "DF" monograph is the same as the "S" and "DF" monograph on my old perfect handle screwdriver. My "S" has standard serifs. That "S" has curlicues or whatever we want to call them. And the Japanese governance marking makes it seem even less credible.

My speculation on mine is H.D. Smith which used a large "S" early and made drop forgings (for carriage parts, etc) early. When they started making tools, they continued the "S".

 

[four.cycle]

Now it’s out of the bath, the second circular logo is clearly the Japanese Institute of Standards!

the "Victor" font is most certainly evocative of 1960s Japanese stuff, like my flashlight collection.

 

[d42jeep]

Thanks, Guys. I hoped that it would solve the mystery but I guess not.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

I found this yesterday. The M is in more of an oval than a circle so it might or might not be Moore Drop Forge. Opinions?
-Don

 

[Farmer J.]

I found this yesterday. The M is in more of an oval than a circle so it might or might not be Moore Drop Forge. Opinions?
-Don

It might be a 'W' in an oval? Depends which way you look at it I suppose...

 

[Outlawmws]

The sides are more sloped like a W vs. an M.

 

[d42jeep]

Okay, I’m easy. Anybody know who made this wrench with a W in an oval?
-Don

 

[Outlawmws]

The obvious guess is Williams, but

 

[four.cycle]

J.H. Williams, Buffalo, NY LOGO

... but Williams always seems to be "W in a diamond".

I went through every "M" and every "W" and the only thing even close is Moore Drop Forge, but that's "M in a circle":


Moore Drop Forge, Springfield, MA LOGO

 

[Farmer J.]

Even Mrs Farmer J looked at this mystery over her breakfast, and says "Maybe it was made somewhere not in America and taken to California by someone who went there"..
I will have a look around see if I can find any similar logo.
Meantime, does the 662-B and the dimensions of the jaws give any indication?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The 66X scheme is the ISN for a short "S" wrench. The suffix indicates different sizes. 662's went from A to at least H. This model numbering scheme comes from Williams, but by the 20's and 30's, everyone was using it, even Billings. I have a few Williams examples posted on this thread and the Williams thread. If you search on "662" they will show up. They are all marked (forged "662" plus suffix stamp, all forged, or all stamped) closer to the major jaw head.

I am inclined to think that's an MDF wrench. What makes more sense? Some previously unknown OEM with an "M" in an oval instead of a circle? Williams with a circle instead of a triangle? Or MDF in a squashed die?

 

[leg17]

That M/W in an oval logo has come up before and has, so far, garnered a gaggle of guesses.

It does not seem to be Moore, Manzel, or Williams.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That M/W in an oval logo has come up before...

It has, including your thread, for further examples and reference, here...

Small forged 'S' DOE Unknown Maker

I have these three forged 'S' DOE wrenches. I can't identify the maker by the oval and stylized M (or W) logo. Anyone recognize these? Lugz referenced this here: post 484 https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274782&page=25

www.garagejournal.com

EDIT: I see that you referenced my name in your first post in that thread, with a post # (484), and a link to the JH WIlliams thread, but post #484 in that thread is not mine. Did I say something about this logo in the JH Williams thread before? If so, I can't find it.

 

[four.cycle]

I am inclined to think that's an MDF wrench. What makes more sense? Some previously unknown OEM with an "M" in an oval instead of a circle? Williams with a circle instead of a triangle? Or MDF in a squashed die?

Occam's Razor.

I've spent the last week or so scouring ebay looking for different variants of "CHROM VANADIUM", which had me visiting ebay.de, ebay,it, ebay.uk, among others ... (I can almost spell Shraubenschlussel now without having to look it up) ... I have not seen anything like "M in an oval", and the more I think about it, the more "MDF squashed die" makes sense.

 

[Mintgrun]

I picked up a funny looking one yesterday and the only (legible) marking is a letter P. The openings are 5/8" and 1-1/4".



Could this have come from an automotive tool kit? Packard? Pierce? Pinto??

 

[four.cycle]

^ best WAG: bung, tank, fluid transfer system

 

[Ton ton]

^ best WAG: bung, tank, fluid transfer system

Or a milk bulk tank.

 

[four.cycle]

^ exactly. in the parlance of wrenches, they're called "sanitary flow implement wrenches". there's a dozen or so different brands in that - huge openings - lightweight materials, in a lot of cases.

 

[thefraze_1020]

I picked this one up the other day at my local Habitat store. I couldn't make out the brand, but for $0.25 I figured it was worth a gamble, since I could see "USA" at least. After cleaning it up, this one is a bit odd. No brand on it, just "forged USA". On one side it is marked 5/16 and 13/32, except there is no slash, just one number over another. On the other side it is marked 8 M/M and 10 M/M.

Does anyone recognize this wrench? I would like to figure out the manufacturer, even if it is not stamped on the wrench.

 

[Provincial]

I am tempted to say Lectrolite (Tru-Fit), but can't find a reference right now. I remember that the inch/mm markings were used by someone. That I-beam design was used in the economy Tru-Fit line for a while.

 

[d42jeep]

Bridgeport.
-Don

 

[Provincial]

Don for the win! I knew I'd seen them somewhere. A Restore, most likely.

The one posted here must have been a contract version, lacking the "Hy-Bar" and "Bridgeport" stamping on the 13/32 face.

 

[thefraze_1020]

Don for the win! I knew I'd seen them somewhere. A Restore, most likely.

The one posted here must have been a contract version, lacking the "Hy-Bar" and "Bridgeport" stamping on the 13/32 face.

Haha! Thank you Don! I was a bit worried I was going to turn out to be a cheaply made wrench. The lettering seemed a bit rough.

 

[thefraze_1020]

Here are some of my other recent DOE finds.
The first few pics are a Wright 1340 wrench, 1-1/8" x 1-1/4", with a mark of "89" (assuming that's 1989?). This one I found as part of an old chlorine gas leak response kit that was getting tossed. It had thick yellow paint on everything but the heads, hence the yellow in the lettering. In that set I also found a really nice 2-1/2 lb. Channellock ball-pein hammer with thick yellow paint on the head.

Next is an S-K O-1214 (3/8" x 7/16")
Really, really nice Herbrand 1725-B (9/16" x 1/2")
J.P. Danielson "Controlled Steel" wrench, 9/16" x 1/2", marked "S-5-5" (or is it a 6?)
Shiny Fuller Japanese-made DOE, 11/16" x 3/4"

 

[mvcorse]

Facom used to make DOEs for French cars such as Renault.



Of course with their own brand. The fonts show different ages.


And earlier ones.

 

[d42jeep]

Here is my third Samson marked tool. None of them resemble one another. This one is a 3/8” x 7/16” DOE wrench.
-Don