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Sunbimmer

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My 3 ton Labar beast, 57 years old works like a charm :thumbup:

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econotrk

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I've found jack oil local to me to put in my older jacks. It is a Bar's Leaks brand made to stop leaks, I'm leery of using in case it gums things up. Any input on this stuff?
 

whateg01

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I've found jack oil local to me to put in my older jacks. It is a Bar's Leaks brand made to stop leaks, I'm leery of using in case it gums things up. Any input on this stuff?

I'm opposed to putting anything that is supposed to plug holes into anything that relies on holes to move fluid. I'd use motor oil before I would use Bars Leaks. YMMV

Dave
 
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I've never seen anything over 3.5 tons that wasn't a long frame jack. That looks like any number of jacks today that retail for somewhere between US$100-150, but that's about as close as I can get, just based on the searches I have done recently trying to identify a couple of jacks that I have. TBH, I don't think I would have paid that much, but you have a working jack that is probably still better than the new imports today.


Thanks very much for the info,
some one else on this forum found a jack that's pretty much a dead match.
it's a 4 ton Pittsburgh from harbor freight.
I think you're prices are way off.
Nothing in stores around here for that low. $150 around here gets you
a small Canadian tire 2.5 ton car jack. 3 tons are $250 and up.
4 tons are $450 and up.
I live in Canada, perhaps you mean USD ?

Right now $100 CDN is $76 USD.

so I think $100 CDN cash no tax, for 4 ton is a sweet deal.
Nothing in stores around here in a 4 ton for less than $500 after tax.
 
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mfrantz90

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Snap on just brought me this today... A little pricey but very well designed.


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st1nger

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G'day all.

New member from the land downunder here. Joined seeking help in identifying make/ model of this floor jack my old man claims to have had for 30+ years. In short it has seen better days, the hydrolic pump has since failed (though the cylinder and release mechanism work fine) and has sat in storage for last 5-10 years.

Through the rust I can see signs that at one stage it was orange, but I also see yellow and green paint spots. (overspray maybe? Dad did work in a panel shop)

Hopefully once I know the make/model I can work on fixing the pump :)

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Edit: after a few hours researching I've found it to be an APAC 240. Same as shown in below picture. Now to get onto the fun part of finding parts and fixing!
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willyfast

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I bought a Hein Werner 3t floor jack and it sure as hell wasn't American made. It came shipped in 3 boxes none of which had a word of english on them. I have a bona fide 2t Heinwerner and it is notably superior in fit and finish. What a disappointment. I was going to report their pretending to be American made but decided why bother.
 

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Shinn Fu owns Hein Werner.

Im sure there are some others, but only USA made floor jack that comes to mind still is Milwaukee. They're beautiful too but not cheap. There are some european makers that do cheaper and are not chinese..
 

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I've got a small Walker bottle jack I need help identifying. My first jack and I purchased it over 30 yrs ago. It is a 1.5 ton, Series R, the first and last of the model is J 6, 7 1/4 - 14 1/2 height, and the number 218138 is cast into the base. I'm having a little trouble with it and would like to find a quality seal kit. I've bought an OTC to use but I hate to discard my very first jack. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Bill
 

alwaysFlOoReD

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Picked up my first long frame jack today. Paid C$50.00. There is no identifying marks and the only numbers I can find are on the saddle; B13606. It has a low of 4 3/4" and a high of 35". Any help identifying would be appreciated.











 
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rk_tek

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I've been a lurker on here for a number of years and been a member for a while but haven't had much cause to post anything until today. I found this Walker jack on CL for a pretty cheap price but it needs a rebuild. The ID tag has been ripped off(rivets are still there) and it didn't come with a ram cover plate or nose piece. I believe it was originally red and painted 2different shades of blue over the years. Can anyone give me info as to what model it may be. The only markings I found are on the lift arms with G 634 cast into them

 

whateg01

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I've been a lurker on here for a number of years and been a member for a while but haven't had much cause to post anything until today. I found this Walker jack on CL for a pretty cheap price but it needs a rebuild. The ID tag has been ripped off(rivets are still there) and it didn't come with a ram cover plate or nose piece. I believe it was originally red and painted 2different shades of blue over the years. Can anyone give me info as to what model it may be. The only markings I found are on the lift arms with G 634 cast into them...

The model number should be on a plate rivetted to the base of the handle. Here's a thread of a complete rebuild of a similar jack:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51556&page=3

There's another thread with step by step photos of it, but I apparently didn't bookmark that one. I was lucky. My 784 was sold to me not working, but it had a rebuilt by Lincoln (IIRC) sticker on the cylinder. All it needed, though, was some hydraulic fluid and it works great. Good luck with your new toy - er, tool.

Dave
 
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rk_tek

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The model number should be on a plate rivetted to the base of the handle. Here's a thread of a complete rebuild of a similar jack:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51556&page=3

There's another thread with step by step photos of it, but I apparently didn't bookmark that one. I was lucky. My 784 was sold to me not working, but it had a rebuilt by Lincoln (IIRC) sticker on the cylinder. All it needed, though, was some hydraulic fluid and it works great. Good luck with your new toy - er, tool.

Dave
Unfortunately that plate is missing. the rivets are still there, so i assume the jack was crammed under too low of a vehicle at some point and ripped the plate off.
 

dchasins

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RK_TEK: Below is a link to a thread I posted covering my restoration of a Walker jack of about the same vintage. There are a few others on GJ as well, but the one that inspired me was the one by BB767: the link that was already posted. Your jack might be a 4 ton or a 2 ton--hard to tell from the picture, but as you get into it, you'll find enough clues to figure it out from the size of the frame and the cylinder. I built mine to use and it's a workhorse. Good luck!
 
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I just bought this Power Zone 3 ton floor jack. It had good reviews and was highly rated on a number of web sites. It seems to be a decent jack when you first look at it, but as soon as you go to roll it across the floor you notice that one front wheel is 1/4" off the floor all of the time because the Jack wasn't built square, and the whole frame is tweaked. What a disappointment, talk abount piss poor quality control. I'm tempted to box it up and send it back to Amazon. I would NOT recommend the Power Zone jack.
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rk_tek

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You should find blue being the original color, here's a link with some info about your jack that should help you identify which one it is.http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114433&highlight=vintage+floor+jacks

To my eye it looks a bit short to be the 4 ton big boy, but it's a little hard to tell from the angle.

Thank you very much for the link. After accounting for 100,000 miles of tread wear on the front wheels and the measurements in the ad, I have a 784 Big Boy. It's a shame the cover plate and nose cap are missing. They really complete the Art Deco look. I'll get a seal kit and start searching for new casters as one isn't original and they both need a rebuild. Thanks for all the info.
 

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90zcar

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Wow that's awesome^^^^^

Considering the snap on Jack is made in China......I wouldn't thing twice about getting that harbor freight Jack. That thing looks really nice.


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mfrantz90

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Wow that's awesome^^^^^

Considering the snap on Jack is made in China......I wouldn't thing twice about getting that harbor freight Jack. That thing looks really nice.


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How do you figure the snap on jack is made in China


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90zcar

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Because it is

My driver had a bunch on his truck months ago and I was busting his balls about a $500 Jack he was selling that was made in china.....
It says it right on the Jack ...haha

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pepi

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FYI: Harbor Freight has made a knock off of this same jack that will be hitting stores in the next month. 3 year warranty included too, something new at Harbor Freight. It will be interesting to see some reviews.
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http://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-daytona-professional-steel-floor-jack-super-duty-63183.html

The below jack is closer to a match or knock off of the snappy ...HF has a feature snappy lacks; same lift height; 23-3/4 in. ............. interesting
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http://www.harborfreight.com/automo...vy-duty-floor-jack-with-rapid-pump-68050.html

This thread it jacked :lol: I just kill myself sometimes
 

pstemari

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How do you figure? The only difference I see between the HF Daytona jack and the Snap On is a extra crease in the bottom flange over the wheels on the handle side and no taper going to the other side.

The black HF jack has completely different side pieces.

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How do you figure? The only difference I see between the HF Daytona jack and the Snap On is a extra crease in the bottom flange over the wheels on the handle side and no taper going to the other side.

The black HF jack has completely different side pieces.

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You know what's funny? The probably added the crease there to prevent a lawsuit from SO, so it has enough 'difference'.
 

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Food for thought... Previous thread.


Their design? Which company? I definitely see where in the YouTube video claims they are made in SC, My Concern would be in how Heavily invested Snap on is with Shinn fu currently and in the past in regards to filling there lifting needs. Why if they had there own company would they outsource for similar lift equipment? It definitely has some specs that arent common in your lower priced jacks, such as a Magnet in the Reservoir etc... Id be curious to who the REAL OEM is, My Gut based off the drawings tells me that its just a revamped Low Profile made to Snap on specs, Probably the Same supplier as the Monster Mobile jacks and the New Mac Low Profile that recently showed up. Ive had good luck in the Past with Snap on in regards to simply calling them and asking for the OEM of some of there products, If i get a chance ill see what they say Monday.

Just comparing exploded view diagrams here...

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Definitely some similarities within the drawings, along with some differences in the frame etc, As i stated earlier Snap on has never Manufactured any of there lifting equipment in the Past, So Unless there is something New on the Horizon its extremely feasible that they are having these jacks made to there specs, Magnet, Ucups all around etc..
 

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I went to harbor freight about an hour ago to check out this new jack. They said they got 2 in but they have not been unloaded yet and were at the bottom of the pallet. They told me the price would be $199 and a coupon can not be used.
I said I would come back once they get them out.
I am very interested in these now because my craftsman Jack is very old and whil still works I would like a longer/quicker one and not a $500 Chinese snap on one.


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I went to harbor freight about an hour ago to check out this new jack. They said they got 2 in but they have not been unloaded yet and were at the bottom of the pallet. They told me the price would be $199 and a coupon can not be used.
I said I would come back once they get them out.
I am very interested in these now because my craftsman Jack is very old and whil still works I would like a longer/quicker one and not a $500 Chinese snap on one.


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Just for clarity.. Just because these low profile jacks are being sold under every color under the rainbow, and look similar "Doesn't" mean they utilize the same internal seals, oring/retainer versus a Poly Ucup.
 

90zcar

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Well until someone dissects one of the Chinese snap on ones to find out what wonderful materials their seals are made out of I'll stick with the less expensive Chinese jack with the same warranty


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Hasn't the FJ200 already been superseded by the FJ300 ? I'm sure i saw a rep post that on facebook somewhere.

They aren't available here in the UK, apparently they can't get them CE approved for some reason.
 

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Well until someone dissects one of the Chinese snap on ones to find out what wonderful materials their seals are made out of I'll stick with the less expensive Chinese jack with the same warranty


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I'm not trying to tell you what to buy, I'm just making it clear that Snap on advertises Poly seals on the pump and Ram, that hasn't been the case in previous lower profile jacks.

Geez...
 
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90zcar

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You know what's funny? The probably added the crease there to prevent a lawsuit from SO, so it has enough 'difference'.


Actually besides that it actually makes it a stronger design with the crease. Besides that I can't spot any differences. Even the front greaseable wheels look identical.


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Torin is actually the company that makes the SO as far as I am aware at least they had it before everyone else. It is what I have owned for over 7 years now.... Not to mention it came with jack stands lol. They actually used to make a 2 ton version of the same style. If you look at them they look almost exactly the same if i remember right the 2 ton version had that wing at the wheel. Doesn't bother me mine only has a very very very slight leak down because i hyper extended it to many times and the last time i was moving way way way too fast. As for the second one i bought its 5 yrs old and still going strong no problems. 7yr old one is at my parents 5 yr old one is mine.

https://www.pepboys.com/product/details/9576492/00745

http://www.site.torinjacksusa.com/blackjack/blackjack-categories/blackjack-floor-service-jacks/item/3-ton-low-profile-jack.html
 
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Both MIC but have served me well:
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